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First you’re simply wrong because he has done this before. Second, what you’ve said above is unbelievably disgusting even for you. Prosecuting an unjustified war of choice isn’t playing nice. Besieging and carpet bombing towns and cities isn’t playing nice. Abducting, murdering and torturing hundreds and thousands of people in the territory you’ve captured isn’t playing nice. Forcibly emigrating children into Russia and forcibly conscripting men into the army to fight against their homeland isn’t playing nice. For someone who claims to be anti war you sure do spend a lot of time justifying some fucking evil things. Well, that’s it. Like your monkey friend you’re just too horrible be worth talking to.

Please don't blame President Biden for crack pipes. Crack was a major problem long before Biden got elected Vice-President. Conspiracy theorists will tell you that the CIA introduced crack to Los Angles many decades ago as a means to oppress the black population. I struggled with the whole concept of supervised injection sites when I moved to a suburb of Vancouver, Canada more than 20 years ago. Then I drove a city bus through the dilapidated Downtown East Side for a few years. I started with a conservative attitude towards street drugs, but my attitude changed as I learned more about addiction. Many times I saw ambulances in front of the Portland Hotel. That experience convinced me that supervised injection sites are a good idea. Yes, many tight-assed, morally upright citizens see drug addiction as a moral weakness. But, a small percentage (maybe 5 or 10 percent) of addicts are so emotionally or physically damaged that they will never be able to hold a steady job. They self-medicate with alcohol or marijuana or hashish or heroin or crack or .... I should know because I was a drunk for 20 years. After X-number of years of consuming street drugs, their minds are fried and they can barely function. They can only function in a gov't subsidized neighborhood with flop houses, single-room-occupancy hotels, warming centers, soup kitchens, supervised injections sites, etc. Vancouver's DTES is less violent - than many major American cities - because homeless addicts do not have to compete for scarce food, lodging, etc. Brown nuns, Mennonites, Portland Hotel Society, Sikhs, Union Gospel Mission, United Church of Canada, etc. all provide charity to the down-on-their-luck, homeless. Supervised injection sites are a public health matter, similar to regular health checks for prostitutes. ... and plenty of addicts in Vancouver's DTES turn tricks to support their drug habits. Public health nurses offer their services to prostitutes to limit the spread of AIDS, crabs, goneria, HIV, hepatitus, herpes, lice, syphillus, etc. to the general public who only venture into the DTES for a "bit of fun" on the weekend. Bottom line, offering free crack pipes is a short-term solution to a long-term problem with mental health. Until the developed world provides mental health support - to the bulk of their populations, right-wing critics have no right to criticize those medical professionals who hand out clean needles or clean crack pipes.

Please frack harder.......for the babies. FFS, you have no fucking clue and your entertainment value is past spent

Trolls will do what trolls do as long as people keep feeding them and moderators allow it..

#1 - Please stop calling them 'theories'. They are conspiracy fantasies. There's nothing approaching the level of proof that a theory requires in those idiotic claims. #2 - While I agree that there's a lot of stupidity involved in them, lots of 'not terribly smart' people don't fall for them. One distinguishing characteristic is that the people seem to think they are a lot smarter than they really are. Dunning-Krueger poster children. Another is that they really, really, REALLY want to know something that nobody else does. So they either invent a load of crap, or they latch onto one.

Hi Rob, Re: junior jumpers simply do not know what they do not know before 200 jumps The late Jim Lowe [ D-855 ] once said that you only really started learning skydiving after you had 200 jumps. I agree with him & you. Jerry Baumchen

This has been a pretty good back and forth, a good exploration so to speak on the different possibilities with different perspectives and inputs on this anomaly in the letter. I wasn't married to the Dolores option, was just positing the idea since the "Gunther" part of the Copper story has been linked to the WJS suspect and it was part of the discussion. But, as Math and Fly pointed out, certainly could be other options. After this discussion, I tend to lean to maybe just a simple typo, after all the D is in close enough proximity to the C on the keyboard and nobody is perfect, may have just been a misguided finger strike. Now, as Fly mentioned, that he was going to check some of the other typed "Cooper" letters, that would be something if any could be linked to the Gunther letter.

I'll make it a short course. EGR Group is so far right wing; they make Rush Limbaugh look like a liberal and they asked that question for a reason. They knew the answer and were waiting to pounce. No vaccine was tested to prevent "transmission." The goal was to prevent symptomatic disease in vaccine recipients. See table 1 endpoint. And, I'm not sure that any vaccine will prevent transmission, but will let the scientists on here address that.

I would not consider it a Nanny State Rule since it was written in blood before bureaucrats meddled with standards. The industry agreed on consensus before rule-makers got involved. That rule was written in blood by a bunch of dead skydivers whose egos exceeded their abilities. After reading a few accident reports, leading wing suit manufacturers agreed on the 200 jump minimum. Since - back then - wing suit manufacturers were the only ones training and certifying wing-suit instructors, it was an easy decision. A few decades earlier, the same logic was used to insist on a 200 jump minimum before jumping a camera. Young jumpers are astonished when I tell them that my first few camera jumps included a bulky video camera bolted to my helmet with an even bulkier Video Cassette Recorder strapped to my chest. Freefall video never became reliable until all the components could be crammed into a single box. Pioneer BASE jumpers (early 1980s) also agreed that skydivers needed to demonstrate a minimum of 200 precision landings before jumping from fixed objects. Back during the mid-1980s, tandem manufacturers applied a similar logic when they required a minimum of 500 jumps and 3 years in the sport before becoming tandem instructors. OTOH BPA bureaucrats are extremely conservative. I had an inkling of how bureaucrats think during my brief tenure on the CSPA's Technical Committee. Bottom line, junior jumpers simply do not know what they do not know before 200 jumps. It is about demonstrating basic life-saving skills - during simple skydives - a few hundred times. They need to prove that they can keep themselves alive during a minimum of 200 jumps before adding any additional complication.

I despair for the future of the USA when so many of its citizens support people like Walker, Trump and DeSantis, et al.

You'll say anything, won't you? Water is essential for life, too, yet there is such a thing as drinking too much of it. Vitamin A is essential for life, and there's such a thing as too much of it, too. Texas suffered mainly because it isn't hooked up to the rest of the national grid. No resiliency there. Note the lack of similar damage in Louisiana (Oklahoma and NM both deal with cold weather far more regularly). There's more information, but I have a feeling that you don't actually look for information, only weapons. Wendy P.

https://www.pfizer.com/science/coronavirus/vaccine/about-our-landmark-trial Clinical Trial Protocol attached . . . C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020.pdf

You talk a lot about proof for someone who never responds to requests for evidence.

Finally, a prediction. Let's check back on this in 30 days. Edit: my prediction: Ukraine will take some more territory, and there will be no "bombing Ukraine back into the stone age" and Slim will say (again) that "Russia has been playing nice, from now on (again) they'll get serious (again)"

As we have seen proven again and again in these very forums lately.

Yes. The Pfizer COVID vaccine has been fully approved, and is now in the same category as (say) a flu vaccine. You honestly didn't know that? Perhaps try education first, unhinged rant second.

A modern FBI Lab might be able to determine the brand of typewriter, based on type style. They might also be able to compare this typed letter with others in their inventory. Once again the need for New evidence surfaces .... alas.

The question is - do Florida men have an unusually high risk of death due to getting the vaccine, or due to the fact that they are Florida men?

Dottie Gunther worked as an executive paralegal. It would be interesting to find any of the documents she might have typed at the time as well.

Gunther and the others he talked to thought the "Cooper" contact was a hoax.. it wasn't until "Clara" that he thought it might be legit. So, they really didn't have anything to go on at that point. That "Cooper" suddenly disappeared would support the hoax idea. For males, typing was taught in college and used in the military,, not for combat but "bureaucratic" personnel... lots of those. The FBI Cooper profile was some college and military.. Remember, Cooper was described as 45-50, intelligent and possibly some management.. lots of opportunity to learn to type. But, yes, the "Cooper" letter writer seemed to be a trained typist though poor spelling. Typewriter: I read it as newer condition not necessarily age.. newer age is obvious being 10 years later. The Cooper letter was done on a very worn out typewriter that needed repairs.. a piece of junk somebody had kicking around.

If Gunther typed the letter as an elaborate hoax and made an incriminating typo, why not just type another letter. That is not Do, it is a double strike x and o over the D, it is possible the typist began D B Cooper in error. Whoever made the error did not see at as incriminating in any way. The contacts Gunther noted are the ones he knew of.. there could have been others he didn't know. The tab set/indentation is different between the "Cooper" letter and "Clara" letter.. I think that is user set,, lots of places to access typewriters,, Hotels, Schools and Libraries.. Of course, Max examined the letters to determine if they were done on the same typewriter. When I was a little kid we had an old typewriter in the house.. rarely used. Keys always got stuck.. That Clara letter has a faded capital M... I need to check the letters in the FBI files..

Of course he was, that's what moron's do.

Oops! We've indeed missed a longer version, Dom flying his Corvid2:

Also one that lists sources. I absolutely LOOOOOOVE how the resident troll posts shit with no attribution. Just a picture. Or a graph. No source, no mention of where it came from, no NOTHING. And we're supposed to fall at his feet worshipping his insightfulness and intelligence. Yeah... No.

Got bored and made this guide of all the Cooper Copycats within the next year.

Having shot itself in the foot with Brexit, it seems the UK believes the cure is to shoot itself in the head..

<Troll voice> Meh, it zigs down just as often as it zigs up.

This is the part where he tells you that he isn't a Republican and doesn't support Trump

It really just sounds like he's mashing words together to respond, not paying a whole lot of attention to the actual meaning beyond the current sentence. Kind of the candidate equivalent of posting a link without having read it, because the headline looks good. Wendy P.

Hi Bill, A real man's man; GOP style. Jerry Baumchen

So Herschel Walker has been trying to contain the fallout from revelations that he is 1) an absentee father for at least three of his children, 2) he has been lying about even having those children, 3) he threatened to kill both his wife and her family, 4) he paid for an abortion for his mistress and 5) dumped her when she wouldn't get a second abortion. Seems like a problem for a "family values" candidate, right? Well, during a recent speech he made a . . . notable attempt to put that all behind him. He began his explanation this way: "I've been telling this little story about this bull out in the field with six cows, and three of them are pregnant... so you know he's got something going on!" He then went on to say that the bull jumped a fence to get another three cows pregnant, but it turned out they were bulls too. So the lesson here is - if you get three women/cows pregnant and then abandon them (and get the fourth one an abortion, although he doesn't mention that particular cow) and then you think you'll get three more pregnant, you better not try because they will turn out to be . . . men? And that's what will stop you from getting more women pregnant, abandoning more kids, and getting more abortions? What a prince of a guy.

You are saying the letter was typed by Gunther himself. I wondered that also - plus to me there is something curious about the typewriter. It types like somebody's old favorite machine, over used and defective ......... like many writers still use today. I know authors today who still use their old favorite IBMs even though they cant get parts for them. You would be surprised how stubborn some people are to update their old habits and favorite old tools ...

I know almost nothing about wingsuiting. However I do know that the wingsuiting community seems to support that number as an absolute floor.

That's a pretty simplistic way to look at the situation. There are a lot of reasons why Europe will never be fracking 'as much as they can'. Places with much looser regulations that are trying to make a go at the horizontal shale plays, like Vaca Muerta in Argentina, are having a damn rough go of it. Frack operations have insane amounts of equipment and personnel on a frack pad compared to traditional vertical completions of old. It's impressive to see things moving like clockwork on a zipper pad, where they'll drill wells out in several different directions and have different crews performing different stages of the completion on different wells at the same time, in order to keep as much of the equipment on pad active at any given moment. When things go bad, they go bad quickly with failures suddenly causing all of those people and equipment to be costing money instead of making it. When you require $55 oil to break even and you don't have your shit together, losing half a day because of a broken blender or wireline getting stuck in hole gets real expensive real quick. The US shale revolution took off when VC firms poured ridiculous sums of money into the industry for years and years while the expertise and efficiency was built up. Many of those firms lost their shirts when the bottom fell out of the market. Today, with lots of idle equipment and $93 oil, it can chug along and make a buck. Starting from scratch in a country with tighter environmental restrictions, higher labor costs, lack of available equipment, lack of investment $$ and lack of expertise is just not gonna happen. You can repeat what Fox tells you that all of Europe's cold winter woes are due to them being stupid green sissies, but the reality is that fracking's not the magic bullet they're painting it as. As I'm about to start field testing a system used for frack operations, I hope I'm wrong....it'd be good to have another market. I hit up a buddy in Argentina to get a feel for how things are going in Vaca Muerta last week, and he said their annual operations amount to a shitty month's worth of work in West TX.

Right. That sounds as accurate as . . . anything else you've posted.

That result is exactly what dz.com is here for Wendy P.

You could start small by pulling it off just the once, and then eventually build up to always. Baby steps!

Would anyone like to hazard a guess at what Max Gunther's wife's name was? Dorothy. Do_____. Curiouser and curiouser.

Thanks everyone, after further conversation, this groups thread and google, I've come to the conclusion that both instances(yes this then happened 5 jumps later at jump #80 which yielded another cutaway) were due to an aggressive rear riser stall causing the pilot chute to then wrap around the nose of the canopy. Somewhere along the way, I either incorrectly learned or incorrectly thought I learned to fix an end cell being out with aggressive tension on the rear risers. I fly a 1.1 wing loading currently. Additionally, I'm much more built physically/stronger than most (I'm not being a bro about this), but seriously likely misjudging my level of strength when I was pulling on the rear risers and holding. Since then, I've left the rear risers alone all together for the time being, learned the correct way to handle there being an end cell out (I'm aware that a canopy is totally fly-able with an end cell or a few out), and since then it's not repeated itself. I hope that this thread helps someone one day. Thank you guys very much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_SC.7_Skyvan According to the list, not many SkyVans still operating, and none in Southern Europe (but you may ask Olympic Air where they sold theirs) Another option is to look for An-28 - it was used as a jump plane in Kharkiv (Ukraine) before the war broke out, and because some units were also produced in Poland back in the days, there's a chance some of remaining 16 still flying somewhere in Europe

This used to be a interesting thread about current developments in the war. I have to say that the trolls ability to shit all over almost every single topic in this forum is impressive. Not impressive in a good way, but still impressive.

Gerry do you remember this Trump - The Forgotten Person MAGA, election fraud, originates all from trump. Until he is either jailed, or dead. It is likely to continue. The money raising opportunities from this entire political agenda are just too great. The Internets ability to bring misinformation to so many right wing trump supporters too powerful.

Though there are many examples of flying sustained over 3.0 glide, its in 100% of the cases residual energy from a dive and/or tailwind, or (BASE) having the right conditions with high lift and/or a tailwind. Ive done a few flights where the glide got pushed up to a comfortable 4.5, but if you where to take the winds/thermals out, that would still only end up around 3.0 sustained.

COL (Ret) Kirk Knight, Ph.D., died peacefully at Tampa General Hospital on August 26th, 2022, with family by his side. There is a Kirk Knight Memorial Page on FaceBook, and his family and friends invite everyone to his Celebration of Life on October 1st, 2022, 11:30AM, at Skydive City, Zephyrhills, Florida. Some of Kirk's ashes will also be making their way over to Deland for the Jumpers Over Seventy jumps. Kirk was jumping hard just two months ago in Iceland, but came back to the U.S. with pneumonia and never left the hospital. Kirk was just short of 8,000 jumps, and we will be distributing a memento to skydivers so that Kirk can keep jumping on his journey to 8,000 and beyond. His biography follows: Kirk Knight lived an adventurous and distinguished life as a U.S. Army soldier with over 34 years on active duty in defense of the Nation. He also performed duties as a U.S. Government civilian employee with over 20 years of dedicated service as the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) liaison officer to Special Operations Command—Central (SOCCENT) and U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM). He was a decorated combat veteran, with three tours as an enlisted Infantryman and an Army aviation officer in Vietnam, and combat operations in Mogadishu, Somalia as Liaison Officer during the Battle of the Black Sea, among other named operations. He served in countries around the world during his long career. A key position was his time as Commander, U.S. Army Parachute Team – the Golden Knights, where Kirk led the team to National and World Championships. He also had assignments as an Army Ranger instructor, and as the Deputy J5 for Plans and Policy with the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC). Kirk culminated his Army career in 1999 as the U.S. Army Defense Attaché at the United States Embassy, Ottawa, Canada. After military retirement, and a brief stint in the financial services sector, Kirk became a government civilian at SOCCENT and SOCOM in the aftermath of 9/11. As an additional duty in his very limited free time, Kirk was a PRO demonstrator and Accelerated Freefall (AFF) Instructor for the USSOCOM Parachute Team – the Para-Commandos. Kirk’s aerial skill, reliability, and tenacity ensured that the SOCOM Community Engagement Program reached audiences at some of the highest profile events across the United States, highlighting Special Operations Forces (SOF) missions, opportunities, and capabilities. Always the consummate professional, Kirk represented SOCOM in front of millions of spectators, and tens of millions of broadcast, print, and social media subscribers. Kirk was scheduled to retire in September 2022 after 55 years of combined military and government service to the Nation. Skydiving was Kirk’s passion, and his contributions to the sport are numerous. He is the recipient of the United States Parachute Association’s (USPA) Gold Medal for Meritorious Service, a National and International judge having served as Chief Judge of the USPA Collegiate Nationals and an international judge at the CISM championships, most recently in Austria in June 2022; a Skydivers over Sixty and Jumpers Over Seventy record participant; and an AFF Instructor Evaluator. He was a trustee of the International Skydiving Museum and Hall of Fame, generously donating to the building fund as well as contributing innumerable volunteer hours on the path to “get it built!” Kirk ended his jumping career in Iceland in July 2022, with 7,848 jumps. His journey to 8,000 jumps came up just short, but his legacy and immense contributions to skydiving will live forever! Kirk is survived by his brother, Chris and his wife, Gail; his son Chris, and his wife, Andi; and his step-son, Greg Foster, and his wife Colleen. Blue Skies, always, Kirk.