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"But I NEED ibuprofen! I get headaches. It's not fair for you to take my ibuprofen away! It's against the Constitution."

Perhaps. But the large number of people who state "I shoulda got vaccinated" or "everyone! Get vaccinated!" before they die makes me think it is possible for them to learn.

In a related story: Rob Skiba is a flat Earther and anti-vaxxer. He has videos proving that the Earth is flat; he does this by measuring the sun as it sets. (It gets smaller, you see, which proves the Earth is flat.) He also thinks that the COVID-19 vaccine will rewrite your DNA, and calls people who wears masks "embarrassments." He is currently in the hospital due to COVID-19 on a ventilator. He will likely not survive. It would be interesting to see how often a belief in something like flat-Eartherism (or the Apollo "hoax", or "Trump really won" or whatever) leads to more deadly beliefs like the various anti-vax conspiracy theories. I have a feeling that most people who have a tendency towards conspiracies find flat-Eartherism a funny, clever niche thing at first. But after a while they get invested in it (Rob actually does talks on it) and they start to really believe in the conspiracy theory. And for 99% of the silly conspiracy theories out there it doesn't matter; who cares if you're a flat Earther? You're not going to fall off the edge. But then a pandemic comes along and what seems like a fun, clever new conspiracy theory ends up killing the people who believe in it. Their "training wheels" conspiracy theories trained them to be able to swallow whole conspiracies without a bit of skepticism or concern for what that belief would do to them (and their loved ones.) I wish there was a way for people to learn the reality behind their decisions before they have to suffer through a crippling disease - or death.

Yep. The details of what happened on those missions . . . you couldn't make them up. The Apollo 13 almost-disaster. Error code 1202 during the Apollo 11 landing. The infamous "SCE to AUX" hail mary that saved the day. The broken ascent-engine circuit breaker. All the errors and near-disasters that you'd expect when trying to do something nearly impossible.

Hmm. Perhaps that's the basic difference between you and I. I look for new sources of accurate information to better inform my decisions. You look for new feelings. And if that works for you, great.

Just as there are a great many people with a minor case of myocarditis, and even if they are vaccinated it could be completely unrelated to the vaccine. Again, you are less likely to get myocarditis if you are vaccinated - and you are less likely to end up in the hospital if you are vaccinated. Your bad advice can get people injured or killed. Stop it.

So men ages 16-19 make up about 33 million people here in the US. Unfortunately no one breaks out hospitalizations just for the 16-19 group, but per the CDC, in the 16-17 year old subgroup of the 5-17 group the total hospitalizations (adjusted linearly for that subgroup) are 444, and in the 18-19 year old group of the 18-49 year old group the adjusted hospitalizations are 2018 total. Which means about 74 in 100,000 in that 16-19 age group end up hospitalized. (Yes, the former is underestimated and the latter is overestimated - but that's the best data we have.) We will divide by 2 to capture just the men. So again you are making a choice between: Odds of hospitalization due to COVID: 37 out of 100,000 Odds of myocarditis with vaccine: 13 out of 100,000 Seems like a straightforward choice - at least for men ages 16-19.

COVID deaths per 100k in Mississippi (worst fatality rate) - 330 COVID deaths per 100k in Vermont (lowest fatality rate) - 53 So even in the best state in the US for deaths, the risk of death due to COVID is 4 times worse than the risk of myocarditis in young men. In the worst state, it's 25 times worse.

I think based on actual performance we can safely conclude that Trump was the worse choice there.

I agree. I am not a fan; he's a pretty sad president. He was merely the better choice.

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Because you are claiming your medical status makes you ineligible. You made it relevant. Absolutely. And airlines/companies/events/bars/restaurants have a legitimate reason to ban them.

There are some terrible doctors out there. Find a better one.

Are you saying that just because those people died, that does not mean there is a link between the vaccine and their death???? Quite the radical claim!

Agreed. Followed shortly by: Apparently you are annoyed that anyone could possibly claim ivermectin is dangerous, but feel you are doing a public service by pointing out how dangerous vaccines are. Let's look at the published side effects of ivermectin: - weakness - fever - vision changes - neck/back pain - chest pain / tachycardia - seizures - loss of consciousness. Now let's look at the published side effects of the Pfizer vaccine: - Pain - Redness - Headache - Muscle pain - Chills - Fever - Nausea In other words, it's similar to ivermectin, but without the seizures, vision problems, heart problems and loss of consciousness. And unlike ivermectin, it actually reduces infection rates, severity of illness, hospital admissions and death. If people really have a hankering for ivermectin because all their friends take it, I recommend getting some fish-oil supplements, relabeling the bottle to "ivermectin" and giving it to them. Far safer and it will actually help them. Further, if people have a fear of vaccines, I recommend having them follow a recent right-wing meme - get the vaccine, get a snakebite kit to "extract" the vaccine, and then reassure them that the toxins/bioweapon/microchips have been extracted. Again, far safer - and it may just save their life. That's nothing compared to, say, the polio vaccine. Of the people who I know who got the polio vaccine when it first came out, 80% of them are now dead. 80%! They died of suspicious causes, primarily heart disease, but also cancer, stroke and Alzheimer's. Given that everyone gets the polio vaccine without a second thought, and given that the COVID-19 vaccines are far safer, it's difficult to see any valid justification for their terror over the vaccine.