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Indeed. Added to which there are vanishingly few real world situations in which the outcomes are so definite, so cut and dried. Everyone who so far has given an ‘I’d definitely do this’ answer has to consider that they may be plagued with the guilt and doubt of ‘I killed this guy but did I actually save the others?’ for the rest of their lives. That uncertainty and situational evaluation is also why the trolley problem is such a big thing for AI, AFAIK. What happens if you give a self driving car a definite set of rules in an uncertain world?

Excellent point! If Brent has his way I'll be able to get my own therapy Mammoth.

And just LOOK at what happened to the animals that lived then - Mastodon, Sabre Toothed Tiger, Mammoths, Where are they now?

I saw a YouTube video several years ago where they actually set this up so the test subjects thought it was a real thing. I’ll try and find it. It might have been a VSauce one. It’s definitely worth a watch if you’re remotely interested in human behavior - how people WANT to act bs how they actually do. edit: here it is

I don't think anybody is morally obligated to make a split second decision in a high pressure situation.

The first thing that comes to mind is, if I pull the lever I am actually responsible for causing an event that I did not initiate to change and I am directly responsible for the 1 man's killing. But I think I would pull the lever and try to reduce terrible outcome. As far as a friend asking me. I would tell them it is not my decision and they have to do what they think is right.

How so? I doubt the jury will be impartial anyway, but which senators would benefit from running against President Pelosi?

"Ignore" doesn't only happen with a button. I'd always wondered about that quote about wrestling with pigs, and it turns out George Bernard Shaw (one of my favorite playwrights) popularized it: Wendy P.

I think it's the hollow place in your chest with all the feels. That is your base of morality.

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So much winning it hurts.

This morning, as I put on my shirt, a button fell off. When I picked up my brief-case, the handle fell off. When I tried to turn the door handle, it fell off. Now I am afraid to pee!

I love love love this, BUT... I think really whether or not you, or I, should STFU depends on context. There will definitely be situations where you are the expert. When that is the case, let fly with it. For me, the best part about growing older, is that I know what I know, I know what I don't know, I know admitting I don't know is perfectly fine, and I know I can still learn a lot of what I don't know, if I care to.

You should stop betting me six packs on hickey games. and don’t teach an angle camp. other than that...keep on typn

What they all said, and better than I could have. So please keep posting, skybytch! Wendy P.

Yup. Hey lady, not unlike you; I'm getting a little long in the tooth. Couple of major surgeries and a back and knees that has just crumbled into pieces from years of military jumping. Many of us dinosaurs contributed countless articles on safety, training, etc. to this site in its infancy to help the young'uns. Not unlike you, I don't tread in the skydiving community too often anymore and when I do it's relevant no matter what the timeframe. EP's target fixation, etc. I think the information given here would be more focused from dinosaurs who've been there, done that - than what they'll get from the land of facebook. Respect, Keith

I don't think this has to be a binary thing: shut up or don't shut up. I think, instead, you can just qualify your responses. Someone asking a gear question you think you might know the answer to, but aren't sure? "I've only jumped twice in the past six years, and haven't worked on gear since _____. But, from my experience, you might want to think about ________." Then whoever is asking (and reading the thread) can get the benefit of your knowledge, while at the same time take into account that your knowledge might not be the most current. At the same time, you've made clear the potential limitations of your advice and have couched your opinion as a suggestion rather than an absolute dictate, so you need not worry that you're misleading some young jumper. Besides, on this site, if you give advice that is even slightly wrong, I'm sure someone will be along to correct you shortly

The average skydiver only remains active for 7 years so a lot of times we "reinvent the wheel" because there is no history of what has already been done experimentally. I see and hear novices all the time using and doing things that they were told is the most modern technique without any clue of the actual mechanics involved. It is important to keep that information available. I no longer do any rigging or instructing (beyond a little impromptu coaching) but I when I see a novice struggling with something simply because they are trying to keep up with "what's cool" I am happy to point out any known solution that might already exist. Sometimes thats amusing, such as the time a fellow instructor asked to use my unpacked rig to demonstrate some things to his FJC class. My SOS, no RSL, bungee pilot chute, B12 snaps, equipped rig didn't quite fit the bill for what he needed to teach and he himself was confused with some of those features. For info this occurred in '99. There is a post on here right now, talking about lubricating the soft loop of the 3 ring to prevent hard cutaways. Ever since mini rings and risers came out, hard cutaways have been a topic of discussion. My last new rig, they called to make sure I actually wanted standard rings and risers and not the "cool" mini's. For a new gear buyer, I could see them accepting what their gear dealer recommends and not what is best for them in the moment. We are seeing it all the time now with jumpers flying canopies that they cannot land and the community response has been mandatory canopy training. Go out and watch a big-way land during no-wind conditions and you'll see from the circus carnage that that hasn't worked! But it keeps the jumpsuit repair people in a job. I recently had an old-time jumper, that was returning to jumping, ask me what happened to the days when you pulled down the toggles and the canopy stopped. He referred to it as the "golden age of parachute landings" and he was referring to the mid to late '80's when grass stained, dirty jumpsuits weren't the norm. I see novices with fall rate and tracking problems because they didn't learn the basic body positions before throwing in mega-booties, weight belts, and competition grips. I got my AFF rating without booties and am still one of the few at my DZ that does FS, up to 40 ways, without them. Yes! Keep offering your advice and opinions even if some may think they are outdated. If nothing else it will keep the "skygods" grounded in reality and points out the differences of what really works and what is the latest faddish technique. Sorry, long post. Rant over!

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