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40 minutes ago, billvon said:

Right.  But they have these things called "cars" and "buses" and "trains" that allows China to mobilize a workforce and get it to the area.   3820 people is two trainloads of people for a Long Island Rail Road train.  I'm sure that in China they could fit them in one.

Like I said, the workforce and the time for the procedures are not barriers.

Yes, that's it.  But it would have to be a Big Mac - not just a hamberder.

Soooo - the solution here is to cram as many "social distancing" people as possible into one enclosed space to transport them to another place, in order to get tested for the thing they that is causing them to have to be social distancing ? ? ?

What could possibly go wrong besides an increase in transference of disease. Which would have to be tested again . . . and so there the cycle continues.

Assuming 10 trips per day - You would also need approximately 34 trains dedicated to taking these people to a place to get tested.

Then, you would have to reduce that number by half because you would have to take them back. (Assumed - Since I suppose you could leave theme there, its just not realistic.)

 

Why are you trying to justify China in this?

I though that proven liars were bad and shouldn't be trusted, defended, or have apologists and champions? 

 

 

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1 hour ago, airdvr said:

Bill please.  Try to keep up.  We aren't talking about the whole of China, or hamburgers for that matter.  We're talking Wuhan province.  Certainly not a rural area.

ETA...are you proposing that China offer it's citizens a hamburger if they get in line?

 

The art of distraction, sidestepping the issue and imagining that you bow to the crowd enjoying their applause. Bullfighters with capes do it. trump and his cabinet does it. Then we have trump's supporters in SC doing it.

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1 hour ago, olofscience said:

Sorry, bad paraphrasing.

But in any case, no I didn't believe it because it made Trump look bad, but because I was discussing the mechanics of the PCR tests, and up to that point Trump had not been mentioned.

That makes sense.

I still stick by my belief regarding the motive for believing China..  I know I'm not alone in having bias, and I'm sure that my beliefs are colored that way sometimes.

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17 minutes ago, jakee said:

Fun fact, later this year the USA is going to get somewhere around 140M people to stand in line in only 1 day and they don't need to be bribed with food or anything.

It could be zero standing in line if the remaining 45 states moved forward into the 20th century with that cutting-edge technology called the "mail in ballot".

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2 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

The art of distraction, sidestepping the issue and imagining that you bow to the crowd enjoying their applause. Bullfighters with capes do it. trump and his cabinet does it. Then we have trump's supporters in SC doing it.

And Anti Trumpers that do it in the guise of posting many many links.

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12 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Assuming 10 trips per day - You would also need approximately 34 trains dedicated to taking these people to a place to get tested.

Ummm, I think you've got Muhammed and the mountain the wrong way round. 

 

Bill wasn't suggesting putting the whole of Wuhan on trains to where the testers are. Call me crazy if you want, but you might find it easier to bring the testers to where they're needed instead.

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8 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

And Anti Trumpers that do it in the guise of posting many many links.

So on one side the anti Trumper's 'distract' by posting evidence, and on the other side you do it by posting links while lying about what's in them. Who to trust...?

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1 hour ago, jakee said:

Ummm, I think you've got Muhammed and the mountain the wrong way round. 

 

Bill wasn't suggesting putting the whole of Wuhan on trains to where the testers are. Call me crazy if you want, but you might find it easier to bring the testers to where they're needed instead.

OK - fine - 

At an average distance of 2 meters - that would be a collective lines that measures roughly 2200 Kilometres long - per day - for 10 days.

I think since the clock already started, that the lines will need to be even more to meet the deadline.

I suppose you can have a couple hundred thousand testers doing door to door tests.

 

 

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1 hour ago, ryoder said:

It could be zero standing in line if the remaining 45 states moved forward into the 20th century with that cutting-edge technology called the "mail in ballot".

Hi Robert,

RATZ - once again, you beat me to it.

;P

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  And, let us not forget how Trump criticized mail-in voting and then admitted to doing it himself.  Can you be more 2-faced?  

 

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2 hours ago, billvon said:

Yes, that's it.  But it would have to be a Big Mac - not just a hamberder.

I would be more optimistic if we said the Chick Fil-A staff was doing testing.

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39 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

What kind of accuracy is expected from this 1.1 million tests per day?

Do you mean in the number (1.1M) of tests performed, or the outcomes of the tests, like false negatives and false positives?

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2 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Soooo - the solution here is to cram as many "social distancing" people as possible into one enclosed space to transport them to another place, in order to get tested for the thing they that is causing them to have to be social distancing ? ?

Nope.  You use trains to take doctors/technicians to the infected area.  Like the WHO does now.

Or do you hate them too now?

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Why are you trying to justify China in this?

?? Not trying to "justify China."  Just pointing out that the people claiming it's impossible are dead wrong.

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1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

Do you still have a Philco tube set? No one has to wait for a warm up. Just a boot up!

I was imagining what FOX TV would be like because its website looks like a slot machine with all the distractible graphics, colors, etc. Joke acknowledged.

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1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

At an average distance of 2 meters - that would be a collective lines that measures roughly 2200 Kilometres long - per day - for 10 days.

Once again, how long will the line of over 100M people on one day in November be?

You can use all the 'maths' you want to prove how unfeasible it is to process that many people in a short time but I guarantee you'll always be relying on an erroneous assumption somewhere, since we already know that processing that many people in an even shorter time is feasible, because we do it.

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12 minutes ago, normiss said:

TRUMP: "When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn't do any testing we would have very few cases."

Did he say that?

Granted we all mis speak every now and again, but the leader of a country can’t afford to do it often.

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52 minutes ago, normiss said:

TRUMP: "When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn't do any testing we would have very few cases."

 

40 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

Did he say that?

Granted we all mis speak every now and again, but the leader of a country can’t afford to do it often.

Yes, he's not a leader its Amerika. (link below not for Turtles)

Trump: Coronavirus testing may be ‘overrated’ and reason for high U.S. case count

“America has now conducted its 10 millionth test. That’s as of yesterday afternoon. Ten million tests we gave. Ten million,” Trump said from a stage at the warehouse event, which had the trappings of a campaign-style rally. “And CVS has just committed to establish up to 1,000 new coronavirus testing sites by the end of this month, and the 10 millionth will go up very, very rapidly.

“And don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world,” he added. “But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.”

Trump said the news media had refused to report his “common sense” explanation for the country’s high case numbers"

Common sense, Its why his supporters vote for him and understand him.

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5 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

“And don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world,” he added. “But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.”

Trump said the news media had refused to report his “common sense” explanation for the country’s high case numbers"

Man oh man. This, too, is a “what the actual fuck” moment. 
Wendy P. 

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