skinnay 0 #126 March 18, 2013 You were the one who brought up who you would piss on first. I can only assume this was to show who you dislike more. You're constantly bouncing back and forth between making hateful statements and claiming to be a victim here, I can't say I really feel bad for you or give a fuck about your baggage. If you want to take up child abuse as a cause, you should probably raise hell with the catholic church. You don't seem much different at all than the rednecks that were harassing you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #127 March 18, 2013 I realized that no matter how bad I hated them I had to get over it and go about my life and try to be the best I could be with what I had to choose from. And yes I dont give a fuck about your butt hurt crying because you want to marry your husband in a church. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #128 March 18, 2013 QuoteAnd yes I dont give a fuck about your butt hurt crying because you want to marry your husband in a church. If you don't care about the subject why are you talking about it?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,406 #129 March 18, 2013 Both of you cut it out. Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #130 March 18, 2013 QuoteQuoteI have had thoughts of my past in my mind but I chose not to accept the advances of my gay friends in the past because I am not attracted to men. There's the point then, you're not gay. If you were attracted to men you would be, but you're not so you aren't. That's not a choice, that's how you are. +50 The sad thing is even though people like regulator say they aren't attracted to the same sex, they still believe its a choice. Can't fix stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #131 March 18, 2013 Anything you say, My Pink Pony. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #132 March 18, 2013 QuoteAnything you say, My Pink Pony. Its My Little Pony. Not My Pink Pony Does my avatar throw a wrench in your heterosexual males confident in their sexuality would never have a pink avatar theory? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #133 March 18, 2013 Who cares... it represents young girls...as in young women who arent mature enough to know the difference. You dont have to throw around the testosterone around me. I'm not going to try and pick you up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #134 March 18, 2013 QuoteWho cares... it represents young girls...as in young women who arent mature enough to know the difference. You dont have to throw around the testosterone around me. I'm not going to try and pick you up. Know the difference between what? My Little Pony and My Pink Pony? I would bet that little girls who watch the show would know the difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #135 March 18, 2013 Quote Who cares... it represents young girls...as in young women who arent mature enough to know the difference. You dont have to throw around the testosterone around me. I'm not going to try and pick you up. Jeez dude, no mirror at home? It's not all about you. Not every person here - if male or female - loves dome. Or you. Live with it. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #136 March 18, 2013 QuoteQuoteAnything you say, My Pink Pony. Its My Little Pony. Not My Pink Pony Does my avatar throw a wrench in your heterosexual males confident in their sexuality would never have a pink avatar theory? I have a pink rig, and I'm pretty sure I'm straight. Why the pink rig? I bought it online, the description included model dimensions and condition. The color was mentioned when it was enroute. The upside of having a pink rig? Even full of free beer at a boogie, nobody is going to mistake it for theirs and stow it. The downside? If you hose a big way, even blurry video will get you axed. FWIW, none of the gay jumpers I know would be caught dead jumping something so tacky. BSBD Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #137 March 19, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnything you say, My Pink Pony. Its My Little Pony. Not My Pink Pony Does my avatar throw a wrench in your heterosexual males confident in their sexuality would never have a pink avatar theory? I have a pink rig, and I'm pretty sure I'm straight. Why the pink rig? I bought it online, the description included model dimensions and condition. The color was mentioned when it was enroute. The upside of having a pink rig? Even full of free beer at a boogie, nobody is going to mistake it for theirs and stow it. The downside? If you hose a big way, even blurry video will get you axed. FWIW, none of the gay jumpers I know would be caught dead jumping something so tacky. BSBD Winsor Hahah, +1. Id rock a loud ass pink rig all day long. Whatever gets the ladies talking works for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #138 March 19, 2013 QuoteIm beleive that soceity has a much greater impact on youth once they reach a certain age...however before that their parents bear the greatest burden of getting their children to represent their parents in similar fashion. A vast majority of gay men have a defective male role model in their lives when they were young....from either being too hard (dad yelling at kid at little league game berating him) or the opposite spectrum...not being there at all. Its my opinion that the parents are the ones that mold children into what they are. For example...if you take your kid with you to run drug deals..then its a good chance that kid is going to grow up a thug. Its also telling that there are some parents who do the best they can in the time they have but the impact of soceity on that child was too much and the child chose a different path than what the parents had. To sum up, I think the children are shaped by their immediate surroundings to become what they are rather than just having 'feelings they cant control'...which probably has its place too, but not a prevalent as what I described. If that was the case, then we would never have a case where a family has two kids-- say they're twins just for shits and grins in this story. Both raised the same, both had the trophy mom and dad that put them in all the sports, and the clubs, and the plays at school. They both got straight A's and went to college and came out professionals. Both ate the same thing for breakfast every morning while they were being raised. One ends up gay and the other is straight. With your reasoning, this would never happen, but it does. So..... why does it?Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #139 March 19, 2013 Quote Quote Im beleive that soceity has a much greater impact on youth once they reach a certain age...however before that their parents bear the greatest burden of getting their children to represent their parents in similar fashion. A vast majority of gay men have a defective male role model in their lives when they were young....from either being too hard (dad yelling at kid at little league game berating him) or the opposite spectrum...not being there at all. Its my opinion that the parents are the ones that mold children into what they are. For example...if you take your kid with you to run drug deals..then its a good chance that kid is going to grow up a thug. Its also telling that there are some parents who do the best they can in the time they have but the impact of soceity on that child was too much and the child chose a different path than what the parents had. To sum up, I think the children are shaped by their immediate surroundings to become what they are rather than just having 'feelings they cant control'...which probably has its place too, but not a prevalent as what I described. If that was the case, then we would never have a case where a family has two kids-- say they're twins just for shits and grins in this story. Both raised the same, both had the trophy mom and dad that put them in all the sports, and the clubs, and the plays at school. They both got straight A's and went to college and came out professionals. Both ate the same thing for breakfast every morning while they were being raised. One ends up gay and the other is straight. With your reasoning, this would never happen, but it does. So..... why does it? Wait...did regulator just pose that bad Fathering causes homosexuality? Just...wow.What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #140 March 19, 2013 QuoteQuoteIm beleive that soceity has a much greater impact on youth once they reach a certain age...however before that their parents bear the greatest burden of getting their children to represent their parents in similar fashion. A vast majority of gay men have a defective male role model in their lives when they were young....from either being too hard (dad yelling at kid at little league game berating him) or the opposite spectrum...not being there at all. Its my opinion that the parents are the ones that mold children into what they are. For example...if you take your kid with you to run drug deals..then its a good chance that kid is going to grow up a thug. Its also telling that there are some parents who do the best they can in the time they have but the impact of soceity on that child was too much and the child chose a different path than what the parents had. To sum up, I think the children are shaped by their immediate surroundings to become what they are rather than just having 'feelings they cant control'...which probably has its place too, but not a prevalent as what I described. If that was the case, then we would never have a case where a family has two kids-- say they're twins just for shits and grins in this story. Both raised the same, both had the trophy mom and dad that put them in all the sports, and the clubs, and the plays at school. They both got straight A's and went to college and came out professionals. Both ate the same thing for breakfast every morning while they were being raised. One ends up gay and the other is straight. With your reasoning, this would never happen, but it does. So..... why does it? Twin here,both of us girls and yes we're identical. Let's see. Raised the same:check. trophy mom and dad: does being sports mom in different sports count and dad is military so check, straight A's: oh crap not me, College: Check for my twin but me i just got a great job that pays me way to much(Grandfather got it for me),Ate the same breakfast:check, every morning:does most mornings count and we did switch it up a bit but usually ate the same thing. We're both straight.No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #141 March 19, 2013 QuoteTwin here,both of us girls and yes we're identical. Let's see. Raised the same:check. trophy mom and dad: does being sports mom in different sports count and dad is military so check, straight A's: oh crap not me, College: Check for my twin but me i just got a great job that pays me way to much(Grandfather got it for me),Ate the same breakfast:check, every morning:does most mornings count and we did switch it up a bit but usually ate the same thing. We're both straight. I never said you couldn't have two straight twins. I'm saying you can have any kind of twin. One can become a crazy person and the other one a respected doctor somewhere despite them being raised the same and being brought up with the same morals. You guys both ended up being straight. Great. That's not because of the way you were brought up, or else we would never see a situation like the one I outlined above where one twin ends up gay and one straight.Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,390 #142 March 19, 2013 Quote Twin here,both of us girls and yes we're identical. Let's see. Raised the same:check. trophy mom and dad: does being sports mom in different sports count and dad is military so check, straight A's: oh crap not me, College: Check for my twin but me i just got a great job that pays me way to much(Grandfather got it for me),Ate the same breakfast:check, every morning:does most mornings count and we did switch it up a bit but usually ate the same thing. We're both straight. I'm sorry; My mind drifted off at "identical". Could you repeat that?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,129 #143 March 19, 2013 Quote I'm sorry; My mind drifted off at "identical". Could you repeat that? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
93626392 0 #144 March 19, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteIm beleive that soceity has a much greater impact on youth once they reach a certain age...however before that their parents bear the greatest burden of getting their children to represent their parents in similar fashion. A vast majority of gay men have a defective male role model in their lives when they were young....from either being too hard (dad yelling at kid at little league game berating him) or the opposite spectrum...not being there at all. Its my opinion that the parents are the ones that mold children into what they are. For example...if you take your kid with you to run drug deals..then its a good chance that kid is going to grow up a thug. Its also telling that there are some parents who do the best they can in the time they have but the impact of soceity on that child was too much and the child chose a different path than what the parents had. To sum up, I think the children are shaped by their immediate surroundings to become what they are rather than just having 'feelings they cant control'...which probably has its place too, but not a prevalent as what I described. If that was the case, then we would never have a case where a family has two kids-- say they're twins just for shits and grins in this story. Both raised the same, both had the trophy mom and dad that put them in all the sports, and the clubs, and the plays at school. They both got straight A's and went to college and came out professionals. Both ate the same thing for breakfast every morning while they were being raised. One ends up gay and the other is straight. With your reasoning, this would never happen, but it does. So..... why does it? Twin here,both of us girls and yes we're identical. Let's see. Raised the same:check. trophy mom and dad: does being sports mom in different sports count and dad is military so check, straight A's: oh crap not me, College: Check for my twin but me i just got a great job that pays me way to much(Grandfather got it for me),Ate the same breakfast:check, every morning:does most mornings count and we did switch it up a bit but usually ate the same thing. We're both straight. I think you're trying to disagree with him but what you've written actually supports his argument, that people can be very different (even biological twins) and yet their sexuality is a free parameter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 38 #145 March 19, 2013 I'm still stuck on either/or, nurture/nature. Genetic expression is obvious to anyone who has eyes. But at the same time, all a person is exposed to from the moment of conception until the moment of death is going to leave an impression on how a person thinks, believes, and lives. This could be pre-natal hormones, to an idyllic childhood, to horrors no person (grown or not) should have to encounter. IMO, this is for all facets of life, not just sexual orientation. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #146 March 19, 2013 Just trying to bring some humor into it with my post. No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #147 March 19, 2013 QuoteTwin here,both of us girls and yes we're identical. Let's see. Raised the same:check. trophy mom and dad: does being sports mom in different sports count and dad is military so check, straight A's: oh crap not me, College: Check for my twin but me i just got a great job that pays me way to much(Grandfather got it for me),Ate the same breakfast:check, every morning:does most mornings count and we did switch it up a bit but usually ate the same thing. We're both straight. I have twin niece and nephew. Raised side by side, same circumstances, same guidance, same parents, same school, same teachers, same food, same toys, same books, same everything. One is straight and one is gay. I'm wondering when my nephew made the choice to be straight.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #148 March 19, 2013 Quote Quote Twin here,both of us girls and yes we're identical. Let's see. Raised the same:check. trophy mom and dad: does being sports mom in different sports count and dad is military so check, straight A's: oh crap not me, College: Check for my twin but me i just got a great job that pays me way to much(Grandfather got it for me),Ate the same breakfast:check, every morning:does most mornings count and we did switch it up a bit but usually ate the same thing. We're both straight. I'm sorry; My mind drifted off at "identical". Could you repeat that? It made me cringe personally. There are 2 of her running around Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #149 March 19, 2013 Quote I'm still stuck on either/or, nurture/nature. Genetic expression is obvious to anyone who has eyes. But at the same time, all a person is exposed to from the moment of conception until the moment of death is going to leave an impression on how a person thinks, believes, and lives. This could be pre-natal hormones, to an idyllic childhood, to horrors no person (grown or not) should have to encounter. IMO, this is for all facets of life, not just sexual orientation. If it was "nurture" How do you reconcile gay children coming from straight households, and vice versa..straight children raised by same sex couples. Id even suggest there are homosexuals who grew up in the same kind of environment Promise5 did...explain that one. I don't think they are the exception, I think they are much more the rule. People are wired to be who they are. You can fight that wiring, but you can't change it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #150 March 19, 2013 Yes in a sense there are two of me running around. But, I'll say this she's a much better person then I am. She down right amazing!!!!! Love you Bay Bay No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites