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One day, in your near future, I hope,
you will celebrate your 1111 jump.
For whatever reason few people will attend.
No party
No friends
No girls
Coming home, hitting dz.com... there's your target:
a young guy, great car, girls.. but
inexperienced!
there's your vent - hit it, let it blow!
Some are like this, some are great!
Happens to the rest - happens to the best.
Not all new Jumpers.. Just you. You are special just like your mommy said.
tigra 0
jimmytavino 16
...QuoteQuoteIt's a simple question...most of you old turds are assholes to new people on here
I resent that! I am NOT a turd!
i've been reading this thread since it started,,, and was WAITING for someone to post Exactly what i felt!!!...Thanks popsjumper
some of us might BE assholes,,,, but we are warm hearted assholes..
some of what others have mentioned is accurate,, and there can often be differences among age groups, ANYwhere..
not sure how jumpers in Jmarkos' country act, but i've seen and try to follow by example,,, a genuine welcoming approach, to anyone entering our sport... I was granted that, when i started, and have always happily, given back, helped out, steered to the right instructors,,, anyone who asked anything of me...
The O P may be pointing out a disparity , in general society at large,,,,between one 'generation' and the next...
The Profile of the O P says "college student"...
and that speaks volumes...
For many of us,, OUR college days were 30 and 40 years AGO... and OUR upbringing, our "indoctrination into life", and our techniques for being "disciplined" were vastly different , than they've been the last 10 or 20 years..
We "old turds, and assholes" had much expected of us.. especially if we were raised in the 50's and 60's and 70's We were TOLD what to do, not Asked... Decisions were made FOR us,, by parents AND ... Yikes,, other Authority Figures....!!! Teachers, bosses, cops, etc..
Free will??? Choice?? Decision making responsibility??? all THAT came, only once we demonstrated that we were capable of those things...not as a birthright....
Lately Kids are 'given the Pat on the back", whether they earn it or not..
They are told that THEY can decide on things, when they aren't even out of "short pants" yet. They have little experience, but lots of 'authority',, hell in some families, pre teen KIDS,, are calling the shots,, mostly through juvenile misbehavior, when they don't "get what they want".. so the parents cave,,, cause " we can't have little Susie,, or little Johnny getting upset.." hahah it's getting ridiculous....
What you might interpret J Marko, as a skydiver thing,,, is possibly your growing awareness that there are ( And Should be ) differences in general between "old people " and " young people"...
luckily for our sport. there ARE experienced people, with deep history and reverence for the sport and a desire to share that..who are NOT jerks....but mentors..
Your inabilty to see that might be a downfall..
I see a trend the last 10 or 15 years that teens and pre-teens tend Not to "blindly offer respect and cordiality" to someone, simply cause that someone , is Older.. Those "know it all teens" feel... "THEY sould respect ME!!!! first...otherwise, i won't give 'em the time of day".. and " if they don;t treat me well,,, i won't treat them well".. WTF???
A newbie/intermediate level jumper would do well to figure out who the "giving" jumpers are... express at least a small amount of Graditude.. and learn to follow their example.
Asking questions is fine,, but we can also LEARN,, simply be being on a dropzone, and LISTENING to any wide variety of instructional conversations... If you're always about asking the question... that can sometimes make you too busy, to hear an answer,,, BEFORE the question even needs to be asked...
skydive safely
jmy
SirVato 0
WITH A PASSION!! Fuck new jumpers.
Oh wait. . .guess I'm pretty new
Cuz stupid hurts
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ryoder 1,400
QuoteAre you asking about skydivers or people on this site who also skydive?
Some people here still skydive???
billvon 2,434
>of the Totem pole
Don't sell yourself short! You have gotten a good start at being condescending here.
At both Lost Prairie and Rantoul it was common for the last jumper boarding the plane to say "Hey asshole!" and for everyone to reply "What?" "Make way for the Muff Brothers!" was traditionally answered by "FUCK THE MUFF BROTHERS!" (This backfired one day when an FAA official wanted to observe a load, and so the loader said quite sincerely "hey, guys, make way for the FAA guy.") It's not really a sport for thin skinned people.
Lots of people on here are opinionated when it comes to safety stuff. Mostly it's because they've seen other people die and it hit them pretty hard, so they want to avoid that with other people. Many don't do that in a "politically correct" fashion, so sometimes feelings get hurt.
skybytch 259
I am not an asshole. I am a bytch.
There is a difference.
QuoteAre you asking about skydivers or people on this site who also skydive?
People on here...I'm just glad I could push some peoples buttons on here cause apparently some of you are fired up about this pole...
People at the DZ are nice to me, not so much on here...and I haven't even asked stupid questions!!
Quotenot sure how jumpers in Jmarkos' country act,
Ha, I know my profile says Sweden but I'm from the U.S..
grimmie 177
I think a poll should be: Do Newbie jumpers hate experienced jumpers".
There are lots of people that will help you out, just like the "old farts" did with us. But that happens at the real DZ, in person, not Dork Zone.com.
And when you do something sort of dangerous or stupid at the DZ and an old fart tells you about it, don't get your panties in a bunch.
And I agree with the fact that some "experienced" jumpers do the stupidest shit I have ever seen.
...and I haven't even asked stupid questions!!
I can think of one!
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
QuoteI can think of one!
This poll? haha
Quote[We "old turds, and assholes" had much expected of us.. especially if we were raised in the 50's and 60's We were TOLD what to do, not Asked... Decisions were made FOR us,, by parents AND ... Yikes,, other Authority Figures....!!! Teachers, bosses, cops, etc..
Free will??? Choice?? Decision making responsibility??? all THAT came, only once we demonstrated that we were capable of those things...not as a birthright....
Well said!!
But, I'm not sure this is a new thing. I can remember hearing this same conversation about us "kids" back in the 50's and 60's. In truth, I think we've just migrated from being the "punk kids" to become the "Old Farts".
To the OP... You're not being blasted for your question; rather, you're being attacked for the tone and condescending manner in which you ask the question. Also, don’t be so quick to confuse feeble attempts at sarcasm as criticism.
Oh! And, the whole lighten up cupcake/princess thing….. Funny Shit!
"Son, only two things fall from the sky."
QuoteAlso, don’t be so quick to confuse feeble attempts at sarcasm as criticism.
I know most everything said on here is sarcasm...and if anyone is actually getting mad at me for this, its kinda sad that people would let a 20 year old jag-bag get under their skin...just sayin
grimmie 177
We'll rename you "ChiggerMarko", cuz you're gett'n under our skin!!!
*** I think you're selling yourself short. Most newbie questions aren't stupid, all of them are. I don't think newbs should be allowed to post here until they at least 500 jumps and 3 cutaways. Oh, and yes, I hate you.