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Many Christians, Muslims, and other religious types judge and spread hate because of peoples sexuality. Here is the math on that... Hate, casting judgement, holding prejudices is a willful reprehensible choice, it is immoral. Owning your own sexuality is not. So if you are a religious type who willfully acts in terrible ways to other people simply because they are being their own true selves then I will judge and hate you for being an overall shitty human being. I don't hate people for being religious, I hate certain people for their actions. Big difference!

Funny enough when the first person landed on the moon nobody was wondering why they weren't talking about his qualifications. When Santos got elected and all his "qualifications" turned out to be fake, the story was that he was elected and that is all that mattered.

I was baptized Anglican, almost as corrupt. The point is that arguing about the meaning of the bible, whatever version you chose, is pointless. I try not to poke fun or point out the ridiculousness of your and Ron's and anyone else's supernatural beliefs because it is pointless as well. What I do is point out that they are all equally false. Sometimes I do fail. I don't object to christian beliefs, I object to christians thinking and behaving as if their belief system should dominate in the public sphere just because they have higher numbers than others. I don't really care what the bible says about morality, I have my own moral values and they are not offended by the idea of consenting adults enjoying sex acts with each other. Even if those acts have no chance of furthering procreation.

You think high income earners equals wealthy. That's cute. Amazing you supposedly have an MBA.

Numbers 31: But Moses was angry with the officers of the army, with the captains over thousands and captains over hundreds, who had come from the battle. And Moses said to them: 'Have you kept all the women alive? Look, these women caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the Lord in the incident of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord. Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man intimately. But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately.' 1 Timothy 6: All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God’s name and our teaching may not be slandered. Colossians 3: Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything. Exodus 21: And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. Leviticus 19: Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. The above is posted simply to demonstrate that you can find justification and precedent for any behavior at all in the Bible. People can (and have) used the Bible to justify a whole slew of atrocities. That's why it's not the best guide for moral behavior. Morality (fortunately) changes over time, and almost no one today would try to justify selling girls into slavery, killing everyone from a defeated city except for the virgins, or condemning someone who wears a cotton/polyester blend to church. Those parts of the Bible speak to a different era. A great many people find the good parts of the Bible - the parts that agree with their own innate morality - and heed them. And that's great, because it's based on their innate morality, not a document that endorses things like slavery and killing the right sort of people. If you go in with that view, and an understanding that you're going to discard the obviously evil stuff, then you can get a lot of good out of it, like the passages you quote above. But any such use of the bible must come after someone has developed their own morality; use of the Bible to BASE one's morality on can lead to everything from the Crusades to the Inquisition to the Holocaust to the Atlantic slave trade to the KKK. And even today, it is used to justify conversion therapy, family separations and protests at veteran funerals by the Westboro Baptists. And, of course, attacks on people like Brittney Griner, Pete Buttigieg and Katie Hill.

Sigh....this was about Brittney Griner, why do we always end up on religion? Edit, i know why. Because after thread was nearly dead Ron tossed a smoke grenade into the room and we all put on our gas masks and took up the fight. Looking back I can see that Ron does not believe she is female, and yet feels she is a homosexual sinner because she is married to a woman. That is the twisted world view some people can hold.

Yet when there is push back against the endless insanity and hatred of religion, they simply regurgitate the endless insanity that makes no sense how or when it was translated by man, repeatedly. It's disgusting and getting old. To Coreese's attacks on those of us who disagree, it's not hatred for me. I'm just sick of hearing the cult chants, and then getting the cult chants for complaining about the cult chants because it's all I've ever heard. The threats of torture for not loving the cult has disgusted me since I was a kid watching people squirming on the floor babbling out indiscernible noises while the preacher dude is screaming for money. The so called christians I've known, by and large, are not good people. I tend to not want to associate with cult members. Having seen the life experiences of some humans around the world, god can go fuck himself. Is that like a self eating watermelon?

Why are so many "Christians" so preoccupied with what other people do with their sex organs? It really is none of their business. Quoting a bad translation of the views of a neolithic tribe some 2,000 years ago is not justification.

It could be. I didn't see that because I don't see his "posts".

The fuck you talking about??? Can you point out one time where I tried to school you on 'how conservatives be'? I know research isn't really your jam, but I thought you had a little more than 'I know you are but what am I?'

Yeah, why listen to the opinions of actual people on the left when you can just project the Fox News caricature of lefties...Simpler than actually listening and/or thinking, I guess.

Even though the FBI low side description was updated to 5'10" from 5'9" they were using 5'8" as an inclusive threshold.. They may have just gone with Tina's height description.. But that makes sense because Cooper was seated almost the entire time and most (self) reported heights are without shoes.. or about an inch low. I argued this with Shutter and he would never accept that Cooper could be a suspect "recorded" under 5'10"... the FBI disagrees.

So it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with not being good to people? But to be clear, homosexuality is contrasted with none of those things. From a human to human point of view there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. So not only is the Christian concept of sin not necessarily concerned with what is actually moral or good, the many Christians who argue against homosexuality absolutely are not concerned with what is moral or good, they've just singled out gay people as a group they can victimise to feel better about their own sinful lives that are actually damaging to other people? I didn't think you were going to be so up front about it, to be honest. So why are you defending Ron if you think that's what he's doing?

Lol, where did that come from? No, I’m saying that Ron doesn’t actually care what the bible says about morality, he’s just pretending. Again, he has explicitly claimed to like and approve of Donald Trump because he’s a greedy swindler. Ron says that makes him a winner. When Ron says he has a problem with homosexuality because of what’s said in the bible he’s obviously lying. Lol, again what? How lazy are you being right now?

Nagambie (VIC, Australia) shuts down in 5 weeks. Owner retiring, tried to sell it for months with no joy.

That did look all wrong. And I'm surprise the ICC bar on that trailer didn't depart from it. That is not an approved tow point.

Complaining about lawyers is a lot like complaining about taxes. We don't like either one but we need both.

I have a need to ask for forgiveness for those I have wronged unnecessarily. Don't have a need to bring God into it, cause I don't believe in God. I do believe Trump believes in the prosperity gospel, in the sense that he will happily use God to make himself money.

I'm not doing anything to the sketches except shoving them through an enhancement app. I can't make the lips bigger or smaller on that. I do have enough integrity to not disseminate something to the wider public that I've intentionally manipulated for some dodgy motive. On my website you can click on the enhanced sketch to take you to the original. I've always made it very clear that they are AI enhancements, so there is the possibility for error in that it is distorting the original sketch somewhat. norjak.org/sketches Worst thing I ever did was to get involved with a suspect. As soon as you do everyone assumes that everything you say is a "push". Aside from the recent YouTube video I did with Beeson, which was specifically about Vordahl, I've recorded probably 8 hours of video and audio in the past few months about Cooper without even mentioning Vordahl. I try to avoid it as much as possible because I don't want to be viewed as a suspect pusher. The overall case is way more interesting to me than that crap. I honestly don't even care about him anymore. If you want to throw your hat into the titanium/metallurgy arena, he's the best we have now. He's about a million times better than Vincent Petersen IMO. If you want to follow Gunther, which I do keep an open mind to, I think you've demonstrated that Smith is the best option we have so far on that path. But I have other things going on right now than to be overtly suspect pushing. If you want honestly, I'll tell you that I think Vordahl is as likely to be Cooper as Smith is, which is to say: not much likelihood. They are individuals who I think should be further investigated by us armchair nerds, but that's it. I'm not really sure how realistic any of the named suspects are at this point. Bottom line is that Cooper's lip was drawn a certain way for a reason and it remained pretty damn consistent. Then Flo's awful sketch comes along and even that sketch seems to have some oddness with his lower lip. Unfortunately we don't have a great shot of KK5-1's mouth, but on the best copy we have you can tell he doesn't have thin lips either. And "thick" comes from Alice fwiw.

Hi Keith, I have never known anyone who hired a lawyer that they did not want to hire. Jerry Baumchen

My girlfriend is a porn star! (But she will kill me if she finds out.)

One thing I find ironic is that the far right has recently been outraged that some students, upon learning what white people have done to minorities in the US, become ashamed of what their race has done. As a result, they want history canceled, and a new "whites rule!" history substituted. (For example, re-spinning the massacres of Native American tribes as minor disagreements that ended in treaties amicable to both sides, or saying that many blacks were perfectly happy as slaves, and freeing them was harmful to them.) They do not want their children to feel any shame for being white. These same far right types also tell those same kids that they have to go to church, go to confession, accept Jesus into their heart etc as a penalty/atonement for their sinful choices. They want them to feel shame for their sins. It's pretty clear that it's all about control. They want their children to feel shame and remorse - but only about the things that they want them to feel shame about. That way they are easier to control.

Correct. None of it is targeted at race. However, it is more beneficial to whites than to blacks. Blacks are more likely to be single, for example, and if they’re married, it’s more likely both spouses will be working. This puts them at a disadvantage in our current tax codes. Blacks are more likely to rent than to own - this also puts them at a disadvantage. It's easy to say "well, they should just act like white people then there will be no difference!" And that may be true. But if you have a system where a race has to act like another race to get similar benefits - it points to a system where there are some structural issues that cause whites to be treated better than blacks under the tax code. And while the intent is not racism, the effect is.

Religions and gods are all the same. Made up by man for control and enrichment of men.

Why does your god continue to create things he hates? Seems rather dickish to me. Although it is hilarious when a christian couple give birth to a non-binary human. That's seriously dickish at that point.