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[Phil1111 911]

Christian ethicists: Racism, white supremacy are 'a Christian problem'
https://www.ncronline.org/news/justice/christian-ethicists-racism-white-supremacy-are-christian-problem

In 1934, a group of Christians in Nazi Germany signed their names to the "Barmen Declaration," a statement opposing Nazi ideology as antithetical to the Gospel. Eighty years later, Christians in the United States feel the need to do the same thing.

More than 400 Christian ethicists and other theologians have signed "A Statement from Christian Ethicists Without Borders on White Supremacy and Racism." Organized by four ethics professors and dated Aug. 14, the statement rejects "racist, anti-Semitic, anti-Muslim, and neo-Nazi ideology as a sin against God that divides the human family created in God's image."

The organizers were particularly concerned — as were those in Nazi Germany — by those involved in white supremacist and other movements who also claim to be Christians. "That's a warped version of Christianity," said Tobias Winright, associate professor of health care ethics at St. Louis University and founder of the "Ethicists without Borders" Facebook group, which organized the statement.

This statement focuses on Christian ethicists "because this is a Christian problem," Winright said.

"White supremacy and racism deny the dignity of each human being revealed through the Incarnation. The evil of white supremacy and racism must be brought face-to-face before the figure of Jesus Christ, who cannot be confined to any one culture or nationality," the statement says.

The statement connects anti-Semitism and racism to nationalism, including the "America First" doctrine, which it calls a "pernicious and idolatrous error" because it "foolishly asks Americans to replace the worship of God with the worship of the nation."

It appears as if some Catholics, just as some Mormons have recognized trump for what he is, evil.

The Jesuit tradition values quality education for all — DACA students included
http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/370949-the-jesuit-tradition-values-quality-education-for-all-daca-students

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

RonD1120

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They are so predictable

In other words, they're consistent with their values.

Wendy P.

I think it is more of a myopic opinion. Several posters here salivate at the opportunity to call me a racist. I am not but that means nothing to them. They know who they are.

Wow. You think you are so important that people on here 'salivate' at the opportunity to insult you?

I don't know you in person, but some on here do.

I can only go by what you post on here.
It's entirely possible that your 'persona' on here is a complete facade. Utterly fictional and unlike who you really are.

Considering the consistency of your thoughts and ideas over the past few years that we have both been posting, I don't believe that is true.
I think what you post is what you really thing and believe.

And much of that is disparaging, condescending and patronizing towards minorities.

You claim that you aren't a racist, and I have no doubt you believe that.

But so did Levi Pettit.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[RonD1120 58]

wolfriverjoe

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They are so predictable

In other words, they're consistent with their values.

Wendy P.

I think it is more of a myopic opinion. Several posters here salivate at the opportunity to call me a racist. I am not but that means nothing to them. They know who they are.

Wow. You think you are so important that people on here 'salivate' at the opportunity to insult you?

I don't know you in person, but some on here do.

I can only go by what you post on here.
It's entirely possible that your 'persona' on here is a complete facade. Utterly fictional and unlike who you really are.

Considering the consistency of your thoughts and ideas over the past few years that we have both been posting, I don't believe that is true.
I think what you post is what you really thing and believe.

And much of that is disparaging, condescending and patronizing towards minorities.

You claim that you aren't a racist, and I have no doubt you believe that.

But so did Levi Pettit.

I believe that your and others definition of racist is different that the one I was taught and hold true. For me it means a group of people defined by genetic make up. It is not a catch word used as a basis of attack on those who disagree with progressive liberal power and control issues.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[gowlerk 1,912]

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I believe that your and others definition of racist is different that the one I was taught and hold true.

rac·ist

noun
noun: racist; plural noun: racists

1.
a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
"the comments have led to her being called a racist"
synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist More
"he was exposed as a racist"
(racially) discriminatory, racialist, prejudiced, bigoted
"a racist society"

adjective
noun: racist; plural noun: racists; adjective: racist

1.
showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another.
"we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club"

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[jakee 1,255]

RonD1120

I believe that your and others definition of racist is different that the one I was taught and hold true. For me it means a group of people defined by genetic make up.

Umm surely that's a description of a race, not a racist?

Care to try again?

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It is not a catch word used as a basis of attack on those who disagree with progressive liberal power and control issues.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you've said multiple times that it's sensible and logical to racially profile the people around you, and adjust your behaviour accordingly. You go on alert when surrounded by black people, is that correct?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[RonD1120 58]

jakee

***I believe that your and others definition of racist is different that the one I was taught and hold true. For me it means a group of people defined by genetic make up.

Umm surely that's a description of a race, not a racist?

Care to try again?

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It is not a catch word used as a basis of attack on those who disagree with progressive liberal power and control issues.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you've said multiple times that it's sensible and logical to racially profile the people around you, and adjust your behaviour accordingly. You go on alert when surrounded by black people, is that correct?

I go on alert when I'm surrounded by any group of unfamiliar people. I profile all strangers in my circle of awareness. It is called hypervigilance.

We recently had a stranger come to our church service. He wore a beard, carried a back pack and dressed for life on the road. I interviewed him and welcomed him in to our congregation. I then pointed him out to one of our retired LEOs. During the offering break, he, another man and I interviewed him again. His responses were not consistent with our expectations. As the church service continued I assumed a watchful vantage point from behind him and out of his normal line of sight. The LEO observed him from an oblique vantage point. When the service ended he disappeared. I later spotted him in town. He was Caucasian.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[jakee 1,255]

Ron, being put on alert by dodgy looking white people doesn't mean it's not racist if you're put on alert by normal looking black people. If that's the case, and I'm pretty sure I remember you saying that it is.

Anyway, did you want to try again with your definition of 'racist' ? Because you definitely got the last one wrong...

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 2,400]

Today's deplorable - an actual Holocaust denier running for Congress.

Hey, if the GOP is already denying climate change, vaccines and that Obama was born in Hawaii, why not throw in some holocaust denial with a side of white supremacy? He's the perfect candidate for the modern GOP.

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Holocaust denier running for Congress has no opponents in Republican primary
By Amy B Wang
February 5 at 9:10 AM
WaPo

Like most candidates running for Congress, Arthur Jones has a campaign website.

It outlines the Republican candidate’s educational background, stance on issues and how to donate to his campaign to represent Illinois’ 3rd Congressional District.

It also lays out Jones’s unapologetically racist and anti-Semitic views.

In a section called “Holocaust?” Jones describes the atrocities as a “racket” and “the biggest, blackest, lie in history.” Under another tab titled “Flags of Conflict,” he lists the Confederate flag first and describes it as “a symbol of White pride and White resistance” and “the flag of a White counter revolution.”

And in his most recent blog post — dated Aug. 24 — Jones rails against “Radical Leftists” and blames them for starting racial violence that had roiled Charlottesville about two weeks earlier. Heather Heyer, 32, a protester at a white supremacist rally, died after a driver rammed a car into a crowd of demonstrators. A self-professed neo-Nazi has been charged with first-degree murder in the incident. Jones painted the death as an accident.

Despite his views, Jones is all but certain to become the GOP nominee in one of Illinois’ most prominent congressional districts — one that includes parts of Chicago and several suburbs to the west and southwest. Jones is running unopposed in the Republican primary . . .

Jones also told the newspaper that he was once a leader in the American Nazi Party and now leads the America First Committee — an organization whose membership “is open to any white American citizen of European, non-Jewish descent.”

Jones did not immediately respond to interview requests Sunday afternoon. It’s unclear how he arrived at the opinion that the Holocaust, a systematic genocide in which an estimated 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazi regime, was a sham.
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[kallend 1,623]

That's my congressional district. We have a real-life actual bona-fide Nazi as the Republican candidate.

And an avowedly racist, sexist homophobe running in the GOP primary for governor.

Seems like the GOP isn't even pretending any more.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Phil1111 911]

kallend

That's my congressional district. We have a real-life actual bona-fide Nazi as the Republican candidate.

And an avowedly racist, sexist homophobe running in the GOP primary for governor.

Seems like the GOP isn't even pretending any more.

Why change a winning story line!

[billvon 2,400]

>That's my congressional district. We have a real-life actual bona-fide Nazi as the Republican candidate.

I hate Illinois Nazis.

[ryoder 1,384]

billvon

I hate Illinois Nazis.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

billvon

>That's my congressional district. We have a real-life actual bona-fide Nazi as the Republican candidate.

I hate Illinois Nazis.

Can he swim?

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[normiss 622]

He's a fine citizen, appears completely normal in this speech:

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

normiss

He's a fine citizen, appears completely normal in this speech:

And the Confederate Flag isn't a symbol of racism.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[normiss 622]

[billvon 2,400]

>He's a fine citizen, appears completely normal in this speech

Not enough bling. If Trumpies have learned nothing from the spectacle of Sheriff David Clarke (and they haven't) it's that you can never have enough medals and pins and badges and whatnot.

[ryoder 1,384]

Look at the video Brietbart chose to include in the story: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/04/i-hate-illinois-nazis-gop-tries-fails-stop-antisemite-running-unopposed-primary/
ROTFL!

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[SkyDekker 1,122]

In Canada people can be expelled form a political party. Why is that not an option in the US?

[gowlerk 1,912]

SkyDekker

In Canada people can be expelled form a political party. Why is that not an option in the US?

Good question. And how is it that an independent Senator can run for a major party nomination? You would think some term of party membership would be a requirement.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[kallend 1,623]

gowlerk

***In Canada people can be expelled form a political party. Why is that not an option in the US?

Good question. And how is it that an independent Senator can run for a major party nomination? You would think some term of party membership would be a requirement.

And how come non party members can vote in party primaries?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ryoder 1,384]

kallend

******In Canada people can be expelled form a political party. Why is that not an option in the US?

Good question. And how is it that an independent Senator can run for a major party nomination? You would think some term of party membership would be a requirement.

And how come non party members can vote in party primaries?

Because they are US citizens, and the primaries are paid for with their tax dollars.
If you live in a district where you are in the minority party, and your party never wins, you should not have any say in who your representatives are?

If parties want to exclude citizens, then they should foot the entire bill for their primaries.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[kallend 1,623]

ryoder

If parties want to exclude citizens non members, then they should foot the entire bill for their primaries.

That's how it should be.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ryoder 1,384]

kallend

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If parties want to exclude citizens non members, then they should foot the entire bill for their primaries.

That's how it should be.

Why do you have this inexplicable fondness for the political party duopoly?
They are an undesirable side-effect of our outdated first-past-the-post election system.
Partisan primaries should be abolished.
There are far better methods, e.g. https://ballotpedia.org/Top-two_primary

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[DanG 1]

If we stop pretending the parties are part of the government it will be easier to get rid of the duopoly. Making them pay for their primaries is a good first step.

- Dan G