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Page 10 of the presentation that you are raging against shows that tail strikes have been on the rise for the last 12 years. Instead of posting like an ignorant ass, why don't you do some research and present some actual arguments. Thanks cup cake.

Look for a post with this as the title: Re: [michalm21] Sunday's report: USPA BOD meeting It's by DSE on page 2 of the USPA BOD meeting thread in General.

The question isn't that vendettas will be allowed by the BOD, which I agree is hilarious. The reality is that vendettas exist. I can guide you were to look to make up your own mind. And I agree they should not be motivation for a proposal. They should not be part of the discussion. I'm aware of most of the issues. I've only heard one side and I haven't let that cloud my judgement. It doesn't have a place in this period. Perpetuating them and using them as a half asses attempt at counter arguement has left us where we are. Judging by Rich's comments the negative responses have been largely inappropriate. And if the weren't largely that then the "volume" of a few has greatly overshadowed the bulk of responses. That doesn't serve the community as a whole and its a piss poor way of communicating. I doubt we can all get along but can we act like adults? I'm happy to hear you out next time I see you at Elsinore. Apologies for spelling errors, etc. I'm typing this on a phone.

He probably could. USPA heard this "get rich" BS from one or two opposition people, just as one or two have posted references here. USPA did ask if they could investigate my finances. Permission was given, and indeed, my finances were examined by members of the subcommittee. They really did their due diligence. I'm guessing they found that skydiving for a living has made you wealthy beyond all of our wildest dreams... right? Not to mention this has NO bearing on the Tony vs PF thing the poster was replying to (which in turn has no bearing on the actual topic of this thread). It's like a chain of unrelated bullshit! Thanks. I can understand being against the proposal. Personal shit that has transpired between folks in the wingsuit world really have no place in any of this debate. I think its fine if you are for or against this but the theory that the BOD will allow this issue to become a tool for personal vendetta is hilarious. I hope by this pointing time people have at least viewed the materials that were presented.

Can people stop pushing this shit. It isn't true. In the presentation in San Diego this was more than covered. Additionally I don't see how this could hurt tony and I don't really see how it helps Robi either.

Awesome, now we're going to get hit with a "cleaning" surcharge. I tell ya, this is getting out of hand.

You forgot to request the gear x2 so that you'd have a turn rig. Rookie mistake

Hey Rich, Can you post an URL where the collateral is posted? I don't see it attached to your previous posts in this thread.

Jesus Diaz is possibly one of the shittiest "writers" to have assaulted my eyeballs.

It doesn't matter where you learn to wingsuit. You can get the absolute best instruction, go through the excersises on the ground over and over until you are raw . BUT once you are in the air the feedback sensation may be overwhelming and nobody regardless of their ability to teach or your previous experience and ability to absorb this will be a factor in predicting the outcome of your first flight. You can have the very best instructor with you in the air and in the case of instability or spiraling the showcase instructor will be powerless to "TOP DOCK" and fix your situation. YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN IN WINGSUITS. So yes a PDF with simple verbal description and graphics would be acceptable so would having a good instructor if you want. Literally ANYBODY could state they have a fool proof way of exiting to avoid tail strikes or skydiver proof way of navigatiing the dropzone pattern and then not give at least a verbal discription of it. My guess is verbal description just wouldn't be that revolutionary. +10 on your post. Once you're out the door in a WS you are on your own! The information in the SIM is an excellent thing to have-I make sure anyone that wants to try a WS reads it, then I also go over even more points. Go do a jump with the person first if you don't know them and make sure their skills/jump numbers are good. I believe using the SIM and the above is sufficient. This isn't AFF. I understand the folk who are pushing safety-but as we've already found out you can't idiot proof everything without draconian measures. I can't help but remember the past push by some for "official course/instructors for freefly; even an official course of instruction for automati! So make a minimum jump number mandatory-you bet. Require they read the SIM and use an appropriate beginner suit-yes. If you want, even have the S&TA or DZ manager/DZO give pre-approval. But mandatory instruction set up similar to AFF- NO WAY! You guys understand that only the first jump would be required right? I've heard folks make comments about 10 jumps and freaking out. It's just the first jump (at least in the proposal that was presented at the BOD meeting in San Diego).

RI's facebook page has a shot of the covers. They are different than the ones on the rig that spent time at Elsinore.

You're right. My bad.

Trim on a CF Storm, is not the same as the freefall model...

I describe the Sabre 2 openings like this: "SNATCH! snivel snivel snivel snivel snivel snivel snivel, inflaaaaatteeeee." I think the end cell closure is dependent on packing and WL in my experience, never had end cell or major heading issues at 1.1-1.2. You didn't say your WL by the way. I have a handful of jumps on a Pilot, about 100 on Sabre 2's, and 200ish on a Hornet which is very similar to the Pilot. I would say I like the openings on the Pilot better, soft but not sniveler, leave the nose wise open. But flight and landing characteristics the Sabre 2 is much more fun I think, its snappier and has a longer recovery arc. As others have said, the flare in the Sabre 2 is more in the bottom and the Pilot in the top. I think the flare on the sabre 2 and pilot is opposite of what you say. More on the top for the sabre and more on the bottom for the pilot That has been my experience as well. I load a 150 @ 1.33. Still get end cell inflation issues on sa2. Safire2 is more responsive than sa2 at same loading according to a friend who owns both.

Thank you, I've said similar things in the past although I highly doubt anything will change. Why do you think it should be the way YOU want it to be? Well that argument certainly works both ways. There is a difference between communicating bluntly and being aggressive. From the outset taking an argumentative or disrespectful tone will do little to ensure that your message will in any way be received. Certainly tone doesn't translate all that well to text. Sometimes you need to beat someone over the head but it's not exactly a good way to start the conversation. If the purpose of commenting is to provide guidance that is one thing. A fair amount of the time posts here are less about communicating and more about dogpiling/being superior. If someone isn't listening than being an ass on an internet forum isn't going to correct that behavior (most likely). The other thing to consider is what effect your posting has on other readers. When you come off like a dick you're very likely tainting your message to someone who is in no way involved but could learn a great deal. What about anything I've written here is outrageous or inconceivable to you? I'm not going to shed a tear over anything someone posts here that is mean or snide. But it makes you less effective. As an instructor I'd hope your priorities are elsewhere.

Thank you, I've said similar things in the past although I highly doubt anything will change.

I started flying a Pulse 190 (1:1/.9:1) when I had ~35-40 jumps. I'm now on a Pulse 170 (1.2:1/1.18:1) total jumps now at around 195. Usually quick openings and on heading. The plane out is there it's just different than a Sabre 2 and significantly different than a Pilot (from my limited experience on them). I usually just count to myself a one and as I'm pulling down the toggles to plane and I get a reasonable good surf out of it especially on no wind days. Packing is definitely different depending on humidity. I have two closing loops one a little shorter for more humid days one a little longer for dry days. Just makes closing the container easier.

Well, there was the McDonnell Douglas A-18A and the F-18A which were eventually combined to produce the F/A-18A. Then there was the TF-18A which became the F/A-18B, then there's the CF-18 variant and also the Northrop Grumman F-18L. But pointing that out would just be pedantic. The F/A-18 was a pretty weird procurement. There were two main entries in the light weight fighter program run by the USAF. General Dynamics produced the YF-16, and Northrop entered the YF-17. This whole thing became a thing when folks saw the spiraling costs of developing the F-14 and the F-15. The idea was to produce a simpler platform in bulk that was closely aligned to MAJ Boyd's E-M theory (small, light, no bombs, pure fighter). Congress wanted greater commonality between the services and the potential cost savings it represented. So that's how the Navy got involved. Basically the USAF chose the YF-16 which became the F-16. The Navy said no since they weren't wild on flying a single engine fighter off carriers (still aren't depending on who you talk to). The Navy asked Northrop to make some changes to the YF-17 entry which became the F-18. The Navy then took the design from Northrop and gave production rights to McDonnell. Poof the legacy Hornet was born. The Super Hornet is a completely different AC don't compare it to the legacy 18s. Sorry for the wall of text.

Yes but not many actually went without paying in extra for altitude, time of day etc. I highly doubt there is a very high conversion rate for customers that are introduced to a business via Groupon.

Good luck is all I can say. Hopefully MHS doesn't need it.

This happened to me on Saturday. Broke off from a four way two of us had 180 openings and were flying straight at each other. No collision we were easily able to turn away. You just have to heads up during all phases of the jump.

I'm still a noobie. Work the hell out of your belly skills! There is plenty of free coaching available from the FS load organizers pretty much every weekend at Elsinore. The Excel camps were designed for us to get very good coaching and it's free. Can't recommend that enough. Since you are knocking out your solos now, I'd say mix in some jumps where you pull around 5k and work on canopy stuff. Brian Germain's downsizing paper is a good place to start. Talk with your instructors of course.

Three or four guys I know went through it. PM me your info and I'll get it to them to talk with you.

Just seconding this. It can be hard to index the visor release under canopy especially when wearing gloves.

Under canopy in a cloud: from climb up to alt you should know where the top and the bottom are. Maintain right flat turn until you pop out the bottom. The reason for doing this would be the same as in free fall: maintain position within your own "column" of air. Going into deep brakes and praying is pretty stupid. Thats like saying slow down your track so that you are barely moving forward through a cloud.