Samurai136

Maybe he's just stalking your user ID while he's on a WOW or Halo Pk break. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Altitude offset is a necessary feature on any AAD. There may be circumstances where the DZ altitude is different from the airport altitude. Generally, most dropzones are the same altitude as the departure airport (they're usually the same place). If you don't use a skill you lose it. Vigil operators who never have to change the mode or altitude offset probably won't remember how to do it. If you were changing the features, there are approx 30+ read outs as you navigate the options. If you never changed anything on the vigil you would see about 1/3 of the read outs and only have used the power on/off features. Cypres keeps it simple. The device is either on or off. When it's on it either reads "0" or an altitude off set. If the altitude offset is wrong, cycle the power. If an AAD reads an altitude offset the odds are high that the operator set it that way intentionally. If it was an accident the sykdiver only needs to cycle the power on a Cypres to correct their mistake. If it's a Vigil they have to know what mistakes they made in the first place to correct them. Cycling the power will not correct an operator error on the vigil. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Now you're changing the topic. Please let's stick to the facts.

I didn't imply anything. You made a bad inference and confused the issue. I have been very clear on several points. 1. Vigil has a poor design philosophy 2. Operator error and/ or tampering can allow the vigil to be operated in any of three modes 3. Vigil will activate in false positive scenarios; conditions in which a skydiver would not want it to activate. (refer to 400-way vigil activations; cypres shuts off instead of activation in false positive scenarios) 4. Due to a better design philosophy Cypres 2 does not have these issues. Your assertion is factually untrue. Cypres 2 must be sent back to the manufacturer to have the mode switched. See manual: "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Here's a fact. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1543504;search_string=deland%20vigil;#1543504 The vigil is designed for several possible modes of operator error and potential tampering; this is a poor design. I'm not suggesting the vigil mysteriously changes modes. I have read the manual. Operation of a vigil in the wrong mode could happen to anyone. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

but if they have an awesome customer service and marketing dept the container design doesn't really matter... unless it looks like crap and then it's not the design its poorly trained field riggers... right. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

not a benefit. just a marketing ploy. from an engineering, design philosophy, standpoint there are more possible failure modes. if the vigil fires and it should not have fired; that is a design failure. This could happen on any jump w/ a vigil. just because you turned it on in pro mode, unless you check it every jump, there is no guarantee it is still set in the same mode. Every flexible characteristic designed into the vigil makes it's proper functioning more dependent on the operator to check and operate it correctly. If you're a sport jumper why would you ever need to switch the mode? vigils are designed to activate in false positive scenarios (unit will activate when the user would not want an activation). there was a time when skydivers would exclude others from skydives w/ AAD's because of this unreliablity. cypres is superior because of its reliable design philosophy. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

NEVER is a long time. skyride sucks donkey ballz. word. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Ooooooooh. That's Creative. $300 for 30gigs and it plays anything? Hmmmm. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

It could be the same "Cheryl Elliot" that posted here: http://www.topix.com/forum/outdoors/skydiving/TEAOMR96NN60SN3DH Who knows if she has a personal axe to grind or merely found a reason to stay on the ground. I wonder if she posts about the Boeing 737 rudder problems w/ the same passion. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

That's untrue - they had a full page picture as the endpiece of the magazine. Bigger than all the other Nationals photos. Apologies. It seems deliberately inflammatory or slightly naive not to include a single photo of the team that won all 4 categories at the Nationals in the official review. AS far as I know, Steve Verner was asked by the host DZ to do the shots of the leading teams (to include their vidiots) and he submitted them. The editors decided to use the Airspeed shot as a special, full page, endpiece. The entire premise of this thread is just a load of whining and bellyaching. It's also the sign of "Off Season" for north american skydiving. Everyone in the cold climates has nothing better to do than gripe about USPA... I expect this will continue until march? april? "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Ah... Gotta remember to set the clock back an hour... "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Last time I checked, Parachutist content is driven by member submissions.

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Firefox AdblockPlus Anything with ads. is blocked. problem solved. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Shomer Shabbos! "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

I agree. "duties under his certificate." refers to the previous sub part 65.125 Certificates: Privileges As a rigger nearly everything you do (pack, maintain, or supervise) meets the standard for maintaining currency. Yesterday I changed the battery in a cypres: current. Today I built a cypres closing loop: current. Tommorrow I intend to perform a continuity check: current. Get the picture?

I wouldn't pick any container in particular. Buy any used container that has a harness that fits you (not too tight or loose... perfect fit in the leg straps) and also holds the size canopy(s) you are jumping (main& reserve). My personal bias is a Javelin or Vector... then maybe a Quasar (Strong) or a Racer (Jump Shack).

I swear I've seen FF's going to mock-ups to dirt dive exits... taking grips to build formations in groups of four w/ video and... oh yeah... bigways... hmmmm "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Wait, that is your wife? On first glance I didn't think she looked old enough to have a beer. Wife? It's the babysitter... "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Does this policy hold after use as well? I would look for a new rigger if I had a mal and used my reserve on a Friday and the rigger refused to pack it because he wanted to air it. Edited for grammar. Yeah... Food for another thread... How many riggers use their reserve and have it packed for the next load? (next load meaning: I didn't have my 2nd rig with me and I was on a load in an hour ....) "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Took out the trash... Killed some scarrry Fl spiders today... Mowed the lawn... Nothing's broken in my house... Drink a beer... and I will soon fall peacefully asleep w/out listening to nagging or having the covers stolen in the night. Who is obsolete?

Wow! I'm going back to the driveway to drink a beer with the neighbor cat and watch some SW Florida lightning & thundershowers roll thru... "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Oh! This has got to be a RePost! there's never a cop around when you need one. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken

Wouldn't it be like a Yahoo Serious movie? Shooting dingos, feeding wallaby, braking for koala, and playing a didgeridoo.... "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken