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I had Rick Horn and he was great, but unfortunately for you, I believe he retired some time ago. I've heard great things about Bram Clement down in Zhills. Judy Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

so you think 6:22 a.m. is early? If I were still employed I would be leaving for work about that time.

You need to get some goats, pigs and chickens for the fresh aroma too. j Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Do you do that by putting mittens on your hands? I hope woody recovers quickly. judy Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Don't think so! What about the instructors, packers, and pilots? What about the person working manifest that has to explain to someone that shows up with a skyride cert that they don't take them, but yes they are the closest dropzone to city xyz and then tell them they probably won't get their money back and to use the cert they are going to have to drive another 200-400 miles because they were taken by liars and cheats. and you do because....? j Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Possibly, but it's how I feel. It's very disappointing and I don't know if it is going to be better than being bankrupted because I foresee alot more lawsuits in the USPA's future. How are they ever going to enforce anything? I also realize this has to do with the way USA is. Lawsuit happy and some really f-ed up laws. How can the Boy Scouts keep out homosexuals, but the USPA can't keep this guys out? Is it because the GM program made the USPA appear to be a trade organization? j Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Hearing this makes me feel dirty to be a member of the USPA. It's absolutely sickening and embarassing. How are we as skydivers suppose to support and promote the new skydivers to join the USPA when they have people like Ben and Cary as members. Name change time for the USPA. American Skydiving Society J Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

It's not the new director. This suit has been going on much longer than he has been the new director. The problem is the Executive Committee - you know the people that were elected by USPA members Maybe if the BOD would have gotten rid of the GM Program many many years ago when it was pointed that the USPA is suppose to be for the skydivers and not the dzo's, they wouldn't have had to "settle" and get stuck with these "characters". Not to mention GM dues don't appear to cover their costs. j Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Me too. I called when it was first discovered and somehow ended up at Skyride. I think there is/was a "Spyder" involved in all this too. j Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Well, I became unemployed and lost my our health insurance about 6 weeks ago. I immediately purchased a high deductible plan and we opened an HSA. We originally applied on line for the insurance. First quote we got was from Humana, they were the cheapest. So we started filling out the 10,000 questions. Of course first group of questions was do you skydiving, scuba, rock climb, and all the other good ones. Answer yes to skydiving (of course). They called back and said they would cover us but not for a skydiving injury. I said "bye-bye". Blue Cross/Blue Shield never asked me any of those questions. I have coverage through them. All BCBS asked for was my last 2 years of medical records. No problem and we got coverage. judy Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

I believe so. judy Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

I think they should put some pigs, goats and chickens on the "remaining" land and hire a toothless none-bathing redneck to live in a trailer to take care of the animials. Judy Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Greenlee: Trespassers have rights By Bob Greenlee Sunday, November 4, 2007 Most of us would like to believe that when we own property and pay taxes on it, a reasonable assumption is that no one else can claim it as theirs. Unless you live in a "progressive" community like Boulder, where common sense is occasionally as rare as a conservative's view of private property rights. Twenty-three years ago, Don and Susie Kirlin purchased two undeveloped lots in Boulder's Shanahan Ridge. They were considering whether to build a home on their property or sell one or both lots sometime later. Last month a portion of their property was taken away by District Court Judge James C. Klein and given to neighbors under the legal doctrine called "adverse possession." If you've never heard this term before, it's likely you're not a clever lawyer who knows how to manipulate "the law" for personal gain at someone else's expense. The home adjacent to the Kirlin's is owned by Edith Stevens and Richard McLean. They apparently planted so extensively on their property that easy access to their back deck and yard was difficult. Somehow the two decided they would use their neighbors' property and created what they and Judge Klein call "Edie's Path." In addition to "Edie's Path" Richard apparently created his own access across his neighbor's property — also without permission. "Dick's Path" allowed him to move a lawnmower from his garage to the back yard. Court testimony indicates McLean and Stevens also held a number of summer events on their neighbors' property and moved a wood pile on it. McLean testified that: "No one interfered with (their) use of the disputed property" and goes on to say that neither he nor Stevens asked for permission to use the property and that they both knew the property was some else's. In addition they admit using the property "openly, continuously and notoriously for 25 years." They simply admit to trespassing on property that wasn't theirs and on which they had no legal right to claim as theirs. Seems pretty clear-cut. Unless, of course, you know the legal tricks of claiming "adverse possession." Stevens and McLean are both lawyers, and McLean is a former judge and once served as Boulder's elected representative on the Regional Transportation District's board of directors. According to court documents, the concept of adverse possession "is a method of acquiring title to an interest in land without the consent and typically over the objection of the true owner." Interesting concept. But if you ever find yourself in a court of law, you'll soon discover that up can suddenly become down, black becomes white, and common sense disappears as quickly as walking through a metal detector on the way to never-never-land. The case clearly established that Stevens and McLean trespassed on their neighbor's property over a long-enough period and were therefore legally entitled to a portion of it. Free. Without paying rent or taxes. What a deal! According to the judge, an initial presumption of ownership is in favor of the "record title holder." Just to sway things against rightful property owners, however, court documents indicate that after a period of time, anyone can claim land as theirs simply by forming "a personal attachment that is stronger that the true owner's attachment." Really? In addition, when another person's use of a property goes unchallenged over a long period of time, the "use it or lose it" doctrine prevails. According to Judge Klein's final order, title must now be transferred from the lawful taxpaying owners to their trespassing neighbors because of their "strong attachment" to it. If any of this makes a lot of sense to you, it's obvious you're far more "progressive" than I'll ever hope to be. Bob Greenlee can be reached at: [email protected]. __________________________________________________ How does this happen? I understand and disagree with eminent domain, but this seems worse. judy Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Maybe Airspeed will just make you a calendar that's all them all the time. It probably would make em' some money too. (but some of them are just gonna have to get naked for me to buy it.) j Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Maybe cause only a very very small percentage of skydivers actually compete. and then there's all those people that have gone to the "dark side". Oh and people from other countries can and do join the USPA. As far as the calendar - The calendar is about skydivers doing skydiving stuff. Does it really matter what country they are from? I didn't think we, as skydivers really cared what someone did for a living or where they are from as long as they jumped. I guess times have changed. j Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Or maybe he ran into a parked car or something. Hell maybe he just looks like that. j Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Are they messed up because they are dopers or are they dopers because they are messed up? judy Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

I would guess Perris is being picked on because it IS one of the big dz's. Eloy doesn't take them, nor does Chicago and, well, most people are familiar with Perris, unlike some of the smaller dz's. j Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Glad to hear that Matthew.

That would be No and No. Now Skydive Paris might, I believe they used to. j Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Crot - I picked up a couple hoola hoops to do hoop jumps with this weekend! Judy Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

No, they are not idiots. I made my first 500 jumps (aside from when I was a student) without any aad. Whether to jump with an AAD is your choice once you get off student status. Some dz's may require them. Again, their business, their choice. Nothing wrong with these guys jumping without AAD's. Judy Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

It will be so good to see you again!

If they have not been cleared for self supervision (still on AFF), and it had been almost a year, I don't think charging them the cost of a whole FJC class would be out of line. Alot of times, if it hasn't been that long, they may be told to come to the next class and just not be charged for it. If they show up at the dz after 6 months ready to do Level 5, we quiz them and see how much they remember and then from that we decide how much training they need. Some may need to sit through the first jump course again. j Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Touchy touchy. So sorry. Who pizzed in your wheaties this morning. I was just commenting on the price of a ticket. I know not all base jumps are illegal. Geez are all basejumpers this sensative? The guy I responded to didn't get all up in arms. j I Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.