MissMissy 0 #1 December 19, 2004 So, I've been busy articulating a new event and want to spread the news around. As I have been the last few months I've heard so many different ends of the spectrum as to how this event will progress and why it won't. What do you think? Do you think the sport is ready to see/hear about 4-way Verical Relative Work? (don't know how to make clicky) Check it out... www.vrw4way.com And if I don't get back, happy holidays to you all!--- Missy Nelson **Learning Never Stops** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #2 December 19, 2004 Here ya go Missy! clicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OzoneJunkie 0 #3 December 19, 2004 Great idea Missy! Bookmarked - will fill it out tomorrow. Oooh, and it looks like congrats are in order??? 5000 jumps? :) Beatiful :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #4 December 19, 2004 Absolutely!! Kudos for taking the time and effort to bring this to light! Not only do I think the sport is ready for this, I also think it is such a positive advancement for the sport as well. And Missy... 5,000 jumps?? You suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #5 December 19, 2004 That is sick! So cool! I think the sport is way ready for this. The time and effort you have put in is nothing short of amazing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 135 #6 December 19, 2004 very far beyond my level, but seems very interesting and challenging. Looking forward to see the moves on video and teams training for that. And belly relative workers showing admiration and respect for VRW'ersscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Canuck 0 #7 December 19, 2004 Very cool. Question - Where would the videographer be? Over the formation as in belly RW? Under? At the side, as in artistic freefly, really wouldn't always show grips well. Challenging methinks... Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites natef 0 #8 December 20, 2004 This is AWESOME!! The camera man would be a much more aggressive slot to fly! Wow, I have been having fun with 4-way in the past year but I can see this being way fun in a year or two when I have the skills to progress into this. What a great focus for all these freeflyers to have. It seems like a lot of un-organized free fly dives could be converted to very productive practice dives for this competition. man, that would be the shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VanillaSkyGirl 6 #9 December 20, 2004 QuoteWow, I have been having fun with 4-way in the past year but I can see this being way fun in a year or two when I have the skills to progress into this. What a great focus for all these freeflyers to have. It seems like a lot of un-organized free fly dives could be converted to very productive practice dives for this competition. man, that would be the shit! I completely agree with your post! 4-way VRW would make me want to get into freeflying, also. Looking forward to seeing this become a reality! (HOW EXCITING!!!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vertifly 0 #10 December 20, 2004 Sounds ok, the bigger the better if you ask me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NeedToJump 0 #11 December 20, 2004 Sounds great. We're going to start playing around with the dive pool and see how it all goes. I hope that this is accepted and recognized as it will surely increase the level of freeflying. Thanks for all your effort Missy. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IMGR2 0 #12 December 20, 2004 Hey Missy, You talked to me at Nationals about this and I have already started working on getting a team together for it. I hope nothing stands in its way. I like the idea because of the set standards and moves. I totally look forward to it. This has always caught my interest ever since the first Project Horizon. The most fun I had at PH1 was the 4-ways turning points. Good luck and if you need my help I am more than willing to help in any way possible. Bryan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ematteo 0 #13 December 25, 2004 Good to see! Evan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites totalbodypilot 0 #14 December 25, 2004 Got the team, been train'n for years, see ya there! Blue ones, Colon Berryseek and destroy, clear and sweep, what ever you want to call it, its all fun in games in the game of war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IMGR2 0 #15 December 27, 2004 QuoteGot the team, been train'n for years, see ya there! DAMN!!! I give up now. j/k Sounds to me we have a few interested teams. HEY USPA! Whazup? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MissMissy 0 #16 December 28, 2004 Great question. The 4-way VRW event is going to evolve camera flying as we know it... beyond the traditional RW style and even common freefly POV. To be able to film the points cameraflyers will be more active in the team in having to know all the points so they make sure they get the shot. I foresee camera flyers having to film from underneath for most of the points and on level for some other points. They do need to be more aggressive. The POV would be filmed as the Freefly world records are: Jason Peters / Cisco Neri style. It'll be great to see this evolution and the birth of a new kind of flyer. Missy--- Missy Nelson **Learning Never Stops** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #17 January 5, 2005 About time edit: signed the petition, thanks for doing this. I was hoping to go somewhere to see the dive pool, general rules (proposed), etc. Any of that around? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrewGPM 0 #18 January 7, 2005 The formations are at: http://www.vrw4way.com/descriptions/ pick a formation name from the drop down menu, then hit the GO button. The random dive generator is pretty cool too. The PDF is a description of each point, with drawings. Nice tool to have. I think some of the drawings are incorrect. Specifically, the lightswitch block, slots 3 and 4 seem to be reversed in image C. Am I wrong?[url][url] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FreeflyGoat 0 #19 January 7, 2005 I've been waiting for 4way to bust out. I dont know if the sport is ready for it yet though. This is where freeflying is going to go eventually though IMO._________________________ goat derka jerka bukkake jihad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dan_iv 0 #20 January 11, 2005 Very nice website, well put together with lots of good information! Being new to skydiving i'm surprised this hasn't already happened yet, and I long for the day that I will be able to have the skill to jump a 4-way VRW! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freakydiver 0 #21 January 11, 2005 I think its the only natural progression... Plus with ambassadors to the sport like the Nelson's among other highly skilled Vert fliers - its not a matter of if but when it will begin to take hold. Its strange, four way belly used to be thought of as impossible - now its standard. I shutter to think of what my newborn daughter of four months will be doing by the time shes up and flying. I would kill to be involved in some four way vrw - well maybe not kill, but travel a long way anyhow... lol -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Falko 0 #22 January 11, 2005 Quotewww.vrw4way.com WHOW! edit2add: another WHOW!!! Reading the site & looking at the formations is thrilling. That puts a smile on the face of everyone who likes to turn points. Too bad I suck at freeflying. (as of now) Ich betrachte die Religion als Krankheit, als Quelle unnennbaren Elends für die menschliche Rasse. (Bertrand Russell, engl. Philosoph, 1872-1970) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #23 January 18, 2005 Quotewww.vrw4way.com www.vrw4way.com/descriptions/ clickable (If I were to try 4-way VRW, it might litterally kill someone, so practice, practice, practice - maybe later - what I do have to say is 4w RW has really energized the sport and brought in the more competitive types to higher levels. VRW should really energize the base even more and give the Type As an outlet in this discipline too. It would be a huge plus to the sport.) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zoter 0 #24 January 18, 2005 Hows about a combination of disciplines 4Way 'Hybrid RW' Two on belly and two backfling at all times.... Turning points ..... 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piisfish 135 #6 December 19, 2004 very far beyond my level, but seems very interesting and challenging. Looking forward to see the moves on video and teams training for that. And belly relative workers showing admiration and respect for VRW'ersscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #7 December 19, 2004 Very cool. Question - Where would the videographer be? Over the formation as in belly RW? Under? At the side, as in artistic freefly, really wouldn't always show grips well. Challenging methinks... Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natef 0 #8 December 20, 2004 This is AWESOME!! The camera man would be a much more aggressive slot to fly! Wow, I have been having fun with 4-way in the past year but I can see this being way fun in a year or two when I have the skills to progress into this. What a great focus for all these freeflyers to have. It seems like a lot of un-organized free fly dives could be converted to very productive practice dives for this competition. man, that would be the shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #9 December 20, 2004 QuoteWow, I have been having fun with 4-way in the past year but I can see this being way fun in a year or two when I have the skills to progress into this. What a great focus for all these freeflyers to have. It seems like a lot of un-organized free fly dives could be converted to very productive practice dives for this competition. man, that would be the shit! I completely agree with your post! 4-way VRW would make me want to get into freeflying, also. Looking forward to seeing this become a reality! (HOW EXCITING!!!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertifly 0 #10 December 20, 2004 Sounds ok, the bigger the better if you ask me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #11 December 20, 2004 Sounds great. We're going to start playing around with the dive pool and see how it all goes. I hope that this is accepted and recognized as it will surely increase the level of freeflying. Thanks for all your effort Missy. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMGR2 0 #12 December 20, 2004 Hey Missy, You talked to me at Nationals about this and I have already started working on getting a team together for it. I hope nothing stands in its way. I like the idea because of the set standards and moves. I totally look forward to it. This has always caught my interest ever since the first Project Horizon. The most fun I had at PH1 was the 4-ways turning points. Good luck and if you need my help I am more than willing to help in any way possible. Bryan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ematteo 0 #13 December 25, 2004 Good to see! Evan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totalbodypilot 0 #14 December 25, 2004 Got the team, been train'n for years, see ya there! Blue ones, Colon Berryseek and destroy, clear and sweep, what ever you want to call it, its all fun in games in the game of war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMGR2 0 #15 December 27, 2004 QuoteGot the team, been train'n for years, see ya there! DAMN!!! I give up now. j/k Sounds to me we have a few interested teams. HEY USPA! Whazup? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MissMissy 0 #16 December 28, 2004 Great question. The 4-way VRW event is going to evolve camera flying as we know it... beyond the traditional RW style and even common freefly POV. To be able to film the points cameraflyers will be more active in the team in having to know all the points so they make sure they get the shot. I foresee camera flyers having to film from underneath for most of the points and on level for some other points. They do need to be more aggressive. The POV would be filmed as the Freefly world records are: Jason Peters / Cisco Neri style. It'll be great to see this evolution and the birth of a new kind of flyer. Missy--- Missy Nelson **Learning Never Stops** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #17 January 5, 2005 About time edit: signed the petition, thanks for doing this. I was hoping to go somewhere to see the dive pool, general rules (proposed), etc. Any of that around? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewGPM 0 #18 January 7, 2005 The formations are at: http://www.vrw4way.com/descriptions/ pick a formation name from the drop down menu, then hit the GO button. The random dive generator is pretty cool too. The PDF is a description of each point, with drawings. Nice tool to have. I think some of the drawings are incorrect. Specifically, the lightswitch block, slots 3 and 4 seem to be reversed in image C. Am I wrong?[url][url] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyGoat 0 #19 January 7, 2005 I've been waiting for 4way to bust out. I dont know if the sport is ready for it yet though. This is where freeflying is going to go eventually though IMO._________________________ goat derka jerka bukkake jihad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dan_iv 0 #20 January 11, 2005 Very nice website, well put together with lots of good information! Being new to skydiving i'm surprised this hasn't already happened yet, and I long for the day that I will be able to have the skill to jump a 4-way VRW! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakydiver 0 #21 January 11, 2005 I think its the only natural progression... Plus with ambassadors to the sport like the Nelson's among other highly skilled Vert fliers - its not a matter of if but when it will begin to take hold. Its strange, four way belly used to be thought of as impossible - now its standard. I shutter to think of what my newborn daughter of four months will be doing by the time shes up and flying. I would kill to be involved in some four way vrw - well maybe not kill, but travel a long way anyhow... lol -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falko 0 #22 January 11, 2005 Quotewww.vrw4way.com WHOW! edit2add: another WHOW!!! Reading the site & looking at the formations is thrilling. That puts a smile on the face of everyone who likes to turn points. Too bad I suck at freeflying. (as of now) Ich betrachte die Religion als Krankheit, als Quelle unnennbaren Elends für die menschliche Rasse. (Bertrand Russell, engl. Philosoph, 1872-1970) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #23 January 18, 2005 Quotewww.vrw4way.com www.vrw4way.com/descriptions/ clickable (If I were to try 4-way VRW, it might litterally kill someone, so practice, practice, practice - maybe later - what I do have to say is 4w RW has really energized the sport and brought in the more competitive types to higher levels. VRW should really energize the base even more and give the Type As an outlet in this discipline too. It would be a huge plus to the sport.) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #24 January 18, 2005 Hows about a combination of disciplines 4Way 'Hybrid RW' Two on belly and two backfling at all times.... Turning points ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #25 January 18, 2005 QuoteHows about a combination of disciplines 4Way 'Hybrid RW' Two on belly and two backfling at all times.... Turning points ..... I've done this as well as 4-way with everyone backflying using the standard 4-way rw dive pool. It's completely different than 4-Way VRW.Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
