georger 237
georger 237
QuoteGeorger says in part:
QuoteIn a former life in a Galaxy far away, I did
evaluations of prisoners sent to us from
State facilities. You know what?
They said exactly what you say, with the same
degree of certainty you express. They always had
one or two examples, on every subject under the
stars...'
Inmates you interviewed from years ago say exactly what I say?
Well, that made a lot of sense. Okay, not really. You may need Star Wars Addiction Intervention here. Just saying.
And who is 'us?'
The subject at hand was reliability of sketches,
posters, descriptions from victims (even those with
high blood pressure and fear factors you claim
makes witness descriptions unreliable as a rule ...)
Practically every person I worked with denied the
effectiveness of law enforecement procedures and
tools, and witness accounts. "Im innocent and they
have the wrong guy". And yet here they were sitting
in prison, caught by the very things they denied were
reliable and effective. Its a common theme in law
enforcement.
You are just claiming an exemption for yourself,
little smily faced Kenny, and your book. Sorry.
Won't work.
As I said before - there will be an announcement this week of furthering the LD Cooper investigation. Yes the FBI is looking to settle the case as all of the other suspects have been ruled out. The LD Cooper suspect came from quiet, back law enforcement channels. It is a very, very credible lead.
It has just been announced that L.D. Cooper's DNA is not a match. He has been ruled out.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
QuoteIt has just been announced that L.D. Cooper's DNA is not a match. He has been ruled out.
That is not at all accurate. There was not a match on one DNA profile - they are testing others. Trust me the FBI is still investigating LD Cooper as all the other known suspects have been ruled out.
mansell 0
QuoteQuoteIt has just been announced that L.D. Cooper's DNA is not a match. He has been ruled out.
That is not at all accurate. There was not a match on one finger print. Trust me the FBI is still investigating LD Cooper as all the other known suspects have been ruled out.
I love how you talk like you're an insider.
This cracks me up.
Just like how there would be "more news this week" and then FBI goes and spoils your fun by announcing today that it doesn't match.
Marla, is that you? Let's go turkey hunting!
Robert99 48
QuoteQuoteQuoteIt has just been announced that L.D. Cooper's DNA is not a match. He has been ruled out.
That is not at all accurate. There was not a match on one finger print. Trust me the FBI is still investigating LD Cooper as all the other known suspects have been ruled out.
I love how you talk like you're an insider.
This cracks me up.
Just like how there would be "more news this week" and then FBI goes and spoils your fun by announcing today that it doesn't match.
Marla, is that you? Let's go turkey hunting!
Actually, the FBI made the "no match" announcement late yesterday afternoon. Taco must have missed it.
owleye 0
DNA results for LD Cooper are inconclusive thus far. He's not "ruled out."
"No match" in this situation simply means "no positive identification." It doesn't mean there's a negative relationship between the samples. DNA sampling can't accomplish much in this case unless they find the butts.
"No match" in this situation simply means "no positive identification." It doesn't mean there's a negative relationship between the samples. DNA sampling can't accomplish much in this case unless they find the butts.
Orange1 0
QuoteDNA results for LD Cooper are inconclusive thus far. He's not "ruled out."
"No match" in this situation simply means "no positive identification." It doesn't mean there's a negative relationship between the samples. DNA sampling can't accomplish much in this case unless they find the butts.
Um. Care to explain what a "negative relationship" between DNA samples might be?
So so far with your conclusions about DNA, you can't rule out any suspects yet. The same argument can be used for all of them.
Next suspect please?
Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.
EVickiW 0
QuoteQuoteIt has just been announced that L.D. Cooper's DNA is not a match. He has been ruled out.
That is not at all accurate. There was not a match on one DNA profile - they are testing others. Trust me the FBI is still investigating LD Cooper as all the other known suspects have been ruled out.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/db-cooper-dna-results-match/story?id=14258726
From the aforementioned ABC news article:
QuoteWhat the FBI really needs to make the case, Gutt said, is a fingerprint from L.D. Cooper to match against fingerprints found on the hijacked plane. "We are working with surviving family members to try to identify objects he may have handled," Gutt said.
HEY....FBI....I am stating the obvious here.......Fingerprint card from the military????
Why would the family of L.D. Cooper be searching for items with fingerprints if his fingerprints are already on file. I know this bit of information has been brought up in this forum before.....I am not a super-duper investigator, but c'mon.....common sense.
This current information being leaked to the media is full of misleading information.
tacomaman states:
Quoteall the other known suspects have been ruled out
Your source please. Obtuse rants in an internet forum holds very little weight to the actual facts. In addition, list the names of all the suspects that you believe have been ruled out.
We will be awaiting your 'educated' factual responses.
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
Robert99 48
Quote
Who is the HUNK standing behind him with the smoke.
Who is the HUNK standing behind him with the smoke.
Jo, You are already looking elsewhere before you have completed your primary mission on this planet of proving that, despite all contrary evidence, Duane was Cooper. Are you just a butterfly?
G_Jones 0
I've read it here suggested that there may be significance to the fact that 305 was a newly added route. It's an extremely short route, possibly the shortest flight that would have warranted a 727 out of PDX? Perhaps Cooper was broke and it was simply the cheapest way on to a 727? Short and cheap flight means it would have been easy and affordable to do dry runs beforehand from Seattle to Portland and possibly observe the ground for landmarks.
Farflung 0
I had this nagging feeling that this all seemed so familiar.
Check the DNA and ‘no match’ does not mean anything. Then why check? What would a match indicate?
The prints don’t match. That proves nothing also.
Then I realized there is a common pattern with many (not all) Cooper suspects who become Coopersteins that escape the lab and terrorize villagers and skunk haired love interests alike.
Just like in the movies the various monsters end up in a sort of creepy smack down like Frankenstein, Wolf Man and Dracula with Kenny, LD and Duane roaming the mist shrouded hills.
Check the DNA and ‘no match’ does not mean anything. Then why check? What would a match indicate?
The prints don’t match. That proves nothing also.
Then I realized there is a common pattern with many (not all) Cooper suspects who become Coopersteins that escape the lab and terrorize villagers and skunk haired love interests alike.
Just like in the movies the various monsters end up in a sort of creepy smack down like Frankenstein, Wolf Man and Dracula with Kenny, LD and Duane roaming the mist shrouded hills.
QuoteQuoteIt has just been announced that L.D. Cooper's DNA is not a match. He has been ruled out.
That is not at all accurate. There was not a match on one DNA profile - they are testing others. Trust me the FBI is still investigating LD Cooper as all the other known suspects have been ruled out.
True. As the FBI has stated, the DNA on the tie and clip may not even belong to D.B. Cooper, as they may have been bought second hand. If so, then how can Weber be ruled out? Fingerprint? Possible. Seems inconclusive. As for LD his prints would be on file with the U.S. Navy. Why are they looking for prints elsewhere? Should be an easy task to compare with those already on file. However, the time frame that Marla refers to seems to be impossible. From when DB left the plane to when LD arrived at the house 200 miles away. I can't see how two people with no experience in extraction could have found each other in that forest at night during a storm and then be at that house not long after. Even the most experienced would have an extremely difficult time locating each other during a time when GPS was not available. If the jump did occur at 8:13, over Ariel, WA, he would had been on the ground roughly ten minutes after in an extremely dense area. I find it hard to believe that a spot could had been dead on the money. It is possible that they could had got lucky and found each other in short time and made it back to Sisters, OR by morning. Highly improbable, but shouldn't be ruled out. Yet, if they were able to locate each other in the forest, getting out of there on twisting, muddy, and rutted logging roads would had taken hours to do during a storm, especially in the dark. That alone would make them being in Sisters, OR the next morning highly improbable.
My money is still on Weber. Although, I still believe that the jump occurred closer to Reno than the area believed to be the spot.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
Robert99 48
QuoteI've read it here suggested that there may be significance to the fact that 305 was a newly added route. It's an extremely short route, possibly the shortest flight that would have warranted a 727 out of PDX? Perhaps Cooper was broke and it was simply the cheapest way on to a 727? Short and cheap flight means it would have been easy and affordable to do dry runs beforehand from Seattle to Portland and possibly observe the ground for landmarks.
Cooper was definitely looking for a 727 and he double checked that it was a 727 with the ticket agent. Portland was also probably the nearest city that had a 727 flight, and at the right time, into Seattle.
However, since the airliner was about 5000 feet above an overcast on the flight south through the Portland area, landmarks could not be seen. Even the lights of Portland could not be seen according to the flight crew.
My understanding is that almost all of the main suspects on DZ have been categorically ruled out. The best way for some of these so-called suspects to gain validity in the investigation is to stop posting here and use back law enforcement channels. This Marla lady was, if anything, shrewd. Before the book was published, before any posting on this board or anywhere else, she worked very, very quietly through credible law enforcement channels. At that time she also subjected herself to a poly-graph test that was passed. Doesn't mean a lick since people believe their childhood memories regardless of their validity but it was the right steps.
Having History shows and making thousands of postings online is to 100% wrong way to go about getting taken seriously by law enforcement and investigators.
Having History shows and making thousands of postings online is to 100% wrong way to go about getting taken seriously by law enforcement and investigators.
Is this why FBI agent Carr spent so much time here working with skydivers and others ? Without question it helped.I think you are talking out your hat tacoman but please,do carry on.
You've went from all other suspects have been ruled out to almost all others ruled out in the space of a few hours , there isnt that many to begin with.
You've went from all other suspects have been ruled out to almost all others ruled out in the space of a few hours , there isnt that many to begin with.
Robert99 48
QuoteMy understanding is that almost all of the main suspects on DZ have been categorically ruled out. The best way for some of these so-called suspects to gain validity in the investigation is to stop posting here and use back law enforcement channels. This Marla lady was, if anything, shrewd. Before the book was published, before any posting on this board or anywhere else, she worked very, very quietly through credible law enforcement channels. At that time she also subjected herself to a poly-graph test that was passed. Doesn't mean a lick since people believe their childhood memories regardless of their validity but it was the right steps.
Having History shows and making thousands of postings online is to 100% wrong way to go about getting taken seriously by law enforcement and investigators.
Taco, "Getting taken seriously by law enforcement and investigators" and being correct are two separate things.
How do you know that Marla took a lie detector test and passed? Your source?
I'd be interested to know who if anyone performed the lie detector test,i'd bet it wasn't the feds or even LEO.I'm not even sure they use them anymore as they are not admissable in court.
They should be considered only a general guide, and eyewitness descriptions can be Just Plain Wrong on some points. Especially when most of the people giving them were experiencing heart rates in excess of 160 beats a minute due to fear that their lives could end in the next moment.
Answer: Common sense
Or as Kevin Bacon once said in Apollo 13:
Not only is Son of Sam a good example, but also the sketch for the Green River Killer. They did several of them. None of them were that good. See attachment. Made this one just for you.
When they arrested Ridgway, his picture appeared in the paper. Then I found out he lived two blocks away from where I was living at the time. The sketches meant nothing to me. But then I remembered I saw him once in a checkout line at the Seven-Eleven.
Side Note on LD Cooper and Marla: When she went with the comic story, she was doomed. That was REALLY dumb, IMHO. But she couldn't resist.
Look: I will tell you a little secret. On the Decoded show, I made a point of saying the comic meant nothing without a suspect to link it to...and History Channel cut that part out. That's the truth.
I've done six radio interviews this week. On the last two, I actually plugged the DZ a bit. Believe it or not, I think most of the people who post here have more guts than I do, since they are willing to jump out of perfectly good airplanes. And sometimes they offer pretty good advice.
In a former life in a Galaxy far away, I did
evaluations of prisoners sent to us from
State facilities. You know what?
They said exactly what you say, with the same
degree of certainty you express. They always had
one or two examples, on every subject under the
stars.