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;)Blevins will never give up!

;)Jo - NO ONE ever can second guess her or exactly what she is up too. Will she die, will she go public, will she walk away, does she have new information, is she working with an agency or VIP, is she going to BLOW the case, is she making a reconcillation? One thing for certain she is NOT predictable like Blevins....much to the dismay of the investigative agencies, etc.

Just erased the rest of this post! Nothing anyone needs to know!
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In the absence of EVIDENCE it's all just a guess.

And BTW, FBI screwups, failures to investigate and prison record errors are not probative evidence linking Weber to Norjack. They just show that errors and subjective decisions were made. You insist that they were intentional and designed to conceal Duane's alleged involvement in Norjack. But that's a GUESS, nothing more.

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U missed the point! The FBI's investigation was faulted - they CANNOT prove Weber was NOT Cooper....NOT one iota of information provided by the FBI is documented or proves Weber WAS not Cooper.

Whew! Maybe I should erase that - BLEVINS will jump all over it....so much of what he says comes from the things I have told over the yrs. He uses the research of others to his benefit his story about an unlikely subject - WATCH it him DO IT!
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In the absence of EVIDENCE it's all just a guess.

And BTW, FBI screwups, failures to investigate and prison record errors are not probative evidence linking Weber to Norjack. They just show that errors and subjective decisions were made. You insist that they were intentional and designed to conceal Duane's alleged involvement in Norjack. But that's a GUESS, nothing more.

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U missed the point! The FBI's investigation was faulted - they CANNOT prove Weber was NOT Cooper....NOT one iota of information provided by the FBI is documented or proves Weber WAS not Cooper.

Whew! Maybe I should erase that - BLEVINS will jump all over it....so much of what he says comes from the things I have told over the yrs. He uses the research of others to his benefit his story about an unlikely subject - WATCH it him DO IT!



Look...I'm not going to jump on anything. But if you're going to make a habit of giving only first names of possible witnesses...and then request information on them...your efforts are doomed to failure. I've always supported the idea that you might be right, but you don't give anyone a damn thing to work with.

What is it? Are you afraid of lawsuits? No one is going to do that. What could they possibly have to gain? They'd have to hire an attorney. Pay up hundreds, maybe a few thousand dollars. And in the end all they would really get would be for a post taken down or something. Big deal. You've been going at this for years. And it's still going nowhere. Maybe you should take a chance on something and start naming people for real.

I've been pretty upfront here for going on three years, naming names, locations, and coming right out with accusations on certain people. I even posted up a doc about it that gets downloaded x number of times a week. No one has sued us, or even sent me a single email in protest, at least no one we named or any representative of them, or a member of their family. No one. And it's been years.

You want support? You want to investigate witnesses? You have to provide NAMES. Saying something like 'Dave in Woodland' doesn't count. If you have witnesses that you believe have information connecting Duane to the hijacking, you should name them.


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U missed the point! The FBI's investigation was faulted - they CANNOT prove Weber was NOT Cooper....NOT one iota of information provided by the FBI is documented or proves Weber WAS not Cooper.



Jo,

That applies to millions of people. There are millions of people who the FBI can't prove are not Cooper.

That's the reason that the burden of proof needs to be a positive one. If you think Duane was Cooper then prove he was.

The failure or inability of the FBI to prove he wasn't Cooper is useless information.

Only ONE person can be Cooper. Millions can't be ruled out.

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I don't speak Spanish or Portugeuse, or whatever, but I MUST own this film. I think it's an upcoming independent movie. I only saw it for a second. Guess I will have to go back and do page translate for details, LOL:

Bigfoot VS D.B. Cooper

Gotta love it. Cooper lives on enough for someone to make him the protagonist in a movie, fighting off Bigfoot no less. Brilliant.:)
Here's the Blogspot reference in English. Sounds cool. Gotta have it. They just wrapped shooting.

Eric Roberts as Cooper? Must Have Wheat Thins LOL.



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I have started with my logs - I logged all conversations and the content and some I actually recorded...

I am not going to start this long process tonight because I do not feel well. I had worked my way of to 2000 Feb. 7th and decided - JUST incase I should die tonight - I needed to make this post. At a later date I will go from the very beginning - not the story, but the contacts and people I talked to and my conversation with FBI agents and Mr. H.

I had to stop on this February 7, 2000 log because it is extremely important. I am sure Garrison Louis also kept logs so this conversation can surely be proven.

Garrison Lewis was the attorney for Jowers the man who had the restuarant when Martin Luther King was killed.

Time 5PM: Date Feb. 7, 2000
Garrison Lewis Attorney for Jowers.

Subject - the death of Martin Luther King.

Mr Jowers related he had his own life threatened after I related to him my life had been threatened by a man out of AL.

He said the FBI did NOTHING when he was threatened. He is 67 (at the date of the log) and very nice. I wanted to know about The Grill and an old hotel. During the trial it came out that in 1968 or 1969 a man from Atlanta called a Los Angeles Hotel where James Earl Ray was traing to be a bartender after some plastic surgery. The caller gave his name as COLLINS.

I had read this accounting in an old article as Duane had told me he knew James Earl Ray. I was surprised to find Collins had come up in a media source.....regarding Ray...NOW, yrs later NO one seems to be able to find this old article & when you find something the name has been changed. Surely one of you GHOST news researchers will be able to find that old article in its original format.

I related to Garrison my husband had told me about James Earl Ray and that he knew him. At that time I did NOT mention Cooper.

The conversation ended with Garrison going to speak to Jowers & see if Jowers would talk to me & view some pictures. Evidently Mr. Jowers did NOT want to talk to me about this.

(I am inserting now that I didn't know at the time Mr. Jowers was very ill).

There was mention of the name Butler a name introduced by Jowers, but I make no note why. At that time I was in contact with Duane's exwife and she did NOT remember the name Butler. This Mr. Butler seems to disappear during the during the King "situation". I do not remember what I was referring to.

This was added after I got off the phone and spoke with Duane's exwife.

The next major log regards U.S. News and World Reports wanting to do an article. I noted How I felt. I was crying as I wrote the entry - talking to Duane. That maybe I can make his confess count for something - a means to make things better for other middle aged men facing life after prison.

I tell him I am sorry I didn't listen to him & didn't understand the things he was telling me during those last yrs. I was sorry he didn't trust me & sorry I didn't comprehend the things he did tell me.

In a later posting I write to Duane about why he didn't want me to view certain TV programs & why he couldn't trust me with things about his life - I had a temper and I was so damn straight - I forgave him for not telling me things straight forward because he knew I would run straight to the authorities. That is dated March 8th in 2000.

Good night. If anyone is interested in the logs made in the planners let me know. I used my appt book as a log. So searching among business related notes.

Interesting that after my conversation with Jowers - the name was changed in future articles...Why I called him was because there WAS a Collins who contacted Ray and he was from Atl. and Duane had told me he knew Ray. Wish I had had the smarts to have copied the article, but I had only just started to use a computer in Jan of 2000.

It is possible I made a copy - but NO way do I have the time or energy to dig thru several ft of paper files - just thrown together. My eye site also hinders this task.
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I don't speak Spanish or Portugeuse, or whatever, but I MUST own this film. I think it's an upcoming independent movie. I only saw it for a second. Guess I will have to go back and do page translate for details, LOL:

Bigfoot VS D.B. Cooper

Gotta love it. Cooper lives on enough for someone to make him the protagonist in a movie, fighting off Bigfoot no less. Brilliant.:)
Here's the Blogspot reference in English. Sounds cool. Gotta have it. They just wrapped shooting.

Eric Roberts as Cooper? Must Have Wheat Thins LOL.



http://www.fangoria.com/new/exclusive-dvdetails-and-art-eric-roberts-and-linnea-quigley-in-bigfoot-vs-d-b-cooper/

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***I don't speak Spanish or Portugeuse, or whatever, but I MUST own this film. I think it's an upcoming independent movie. I only saw it for a second. Guess I will have to go back and do page translate for details, LOL:

Bigfoot VS D.B. Cooper

Gotta love it. Cooper lives on enough for someone to make him the protagonist in a movie, fighting off Bigfoot no less. Brilliant.:)
Here's the Blogspot reference in English. Sounds cool. Gotta have it. They just wrapped shooting.

Eric Roberts as Cooper? Must Have Wheat Thins LOL.



http://www.fangoria.com/new/exclusive-dvdetails-and-art-eric-roberts-and-linnea-quigley-in-bigfoot-vs-d-b-cooper/

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Works for me. First serious film on Cooper. The other ones have been comedies. B|

This film goes on the playlist for the second Saturday in August, without a doubt. Widescreen version only.

I have to do this, you know. :) This is a must-screen for Saturday night. Thanks for the helpful link. I will order it from Amazon the second it becomes available. To screen it means the usual independent company licensing fee, but that's within the budget.

I saw this too... If you order, I would go PayPal for sure.


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Off subject: I am just completely puzzled how they lost contact with a plane in this day and time..Anyone have any new informations?



Perhaps there was a structural failure that caused loss of cabin pressure. The pilots may not have donned their O2 masks quickly enough to prevent hypoxia. Once hypoxic they may have decided not to go on O2 and quickly became disoriented. Just a guess.

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***Off subject: I am just completely puzzled how they lost contact with a plane in this day and time..Anyone have any new informations?



Perhaps there was a structural failure that caused loss of cabin pressure. The pilots may not have donned their O2 masks quickly enough to prevent hypoxia. Once hypoxic they may have decided not to go on O2 and quickly became disoriented. Just a guess.

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Or it was taken and flown somewhere in the 4 more hours that those engines were running and phoning home. a 777 can haul a lot of thousands of kilograms of????

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The alleged 4 hours of further engine telemetry after voice radio contact was lost is disputed by Boeing and the airline.

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Off subject: I am just completely puzzled how they lost contact with a plane in this day and time..Anyone have any new informations?



It's all over the news...check CNN, etc. They don't know a thing, can't agree on a thing. Maybe the jet was sucked up with a tractor beam into the main spacecraft. Or they were all beamed aboard. Hey, it's happened before...an F-104 Starfighter. B|

Right? Riiiiight????

What? You mean it was only a TV show? [:/] Bummer.


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At least we are still talking Boeing Planes.

Diatoms - now that is something I want to put my 2 cents worth into. I do NOT have a clue what a diatiom is other than a water bug or mite. You will note I never engaged very much into the conversation...because ALL I know for sure is that money was put on that beach around the end of Sept 1979 or early Oct 1979.

Prior to that it had been in a shed on dry land and yes, it had gotten wet from a leak - why Weber ditched it....no way could he spend it....so ditch it!

There was something symbolic about Tena's Bar - his STATEMENT about the Guys used to go there and there was a box you put a nickel in.

What Yrs was that box there and what period of time was a nickel - the honor charge....I remembered this. Why I kept looking and asking if anyone had picture taken there way prior to 1971. When did it become more than a nickel?

I remembered the Nickel statement - SO when did the fee go up & when did the original box go down & the request for a nickel.... Answer that and then it is a matter of putting Cooper in WA during that time....If Duane was NOT Cooper it was ONE of the BOYS.

Surely there are OLD OLD pictures taken by others on over the yrs?

A nickle sound right for 1940's to the 1950's & maybe the early 1960's. Duane was DEFINITELY in the area PRE 1950 - that one is a given. He was arrested near Spokane.

Was he with Harris or Pennington? When did Duane know these 2 older jumpers - they were his age approx. They are BOTH connected to WA. Well, they were but they are dead now!

Pre 1950 fits with the missing time frames - even though others didn't see the holes in the time lines from 1945 to 1950 - I DID!

Yea, he went back East, but he escaped from the honor farm - and that time is NOT accounted for until his next arrest.

According to what I know - he got in trouble with another BOY! Who was that boy and why Could he never go back.
Try a work camp just out of Twisp and a smokejumping came just about that. Why doesn't the man who TOOTS another suspect GO back and find the roots...contact his SUBJECTS and ask them before the DIE?

Maybe he is being PAID to deter the public - you think? Maybe if he had made the detour to the museum I told him about not too far from the Camp and Twisp - he would have found pictures and names!

Their eye site is so narrow - and focused, they would not see a truck load of lumber barreling down a logging road.
Maybe the FBI got hit with this one?
The Mouse and Paperlegs - I think both of them KNEW or suspected who Cooper was....just the name they knew him by was not Duane Weber or John Collins.

Dusty or Johnnie Wenz - give it a try.
Tell me the name of the Fire Chief in The Dalles & the names of the firemen and forestry division operating out of the area. Check it OUT - NO one would but someone DID!
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'According to what I know - he got in trouble with another BOY! Who was that boy and why Could he never go back.
Try a work camp just out of Twisp and a smokejumping came just about that. Why doesn't the man who TOOTS another suspect GO back and find the roots...contact his SUBJECTS and ask them before the DIE?...'



I have enough on these people. All that I need. I learned a while back not to release EVERYTHING, due to trust issues in Cooperland.

The 'work camps' for juvenile offenders in Washington State. (some are closed now, others have been converted to adult facilities) I will provide their original names, pre-1972.

Spruce Canyon Youth Camp, Colville, WA.
Mission Creek Youth Camp, Shelton, WA.
Indian Ridge Youth Camp, Arlington, WA.
Olympic Youth Camp, Forks, WA.
Green Hill School for Boys, Chehalis, WA.
Maple Lane School for Girls, Centralia, WA.
Cascadia Youth Center, Tacoma, WA. (Initial six-week assessment and assignment center for committed youth, property now owned by the Puyallup Indian tribe.)
Cedar Creek Youth Camp, Littlerock, WA. (Timberline Lodge for forest work, Alpine Lodge for school attendance at the Maple Lane School for Girls)
Naselle Youth Camp (near the Naselle River)
Echo Glen Childrens' Center, North Bend, WA.
Larch Mountain Honor Camp, Amboy, WA.
(There are a few others, but mostly for the blind, those with severe psychiatric issues, or the mentally challenged, and are not really juvenile criminal facilities)

Nothing near Twisp, which I think you picked up because Margie Geestman lived there for some years. She is no longer there. She sold her ranch for a half-million dollars to the State of Washington Fish and Game Department and bailed for parts unknown. I don't blame her. After six interviews over a year where she pointed to her ex-husband as being involved in the Cooper hijacking, and on Interview Number Six admitted that Kenny Christiansen was indeed the guy who went missing that week with her husband...and after her ex-husband was dumb enough to go on History Channel and say Kenny could be the hijacker instead of offering him an alibi...
I would have left town as well in a quick-fast New York hurry with all that cash in my pocket. And maybe instruct the bank officer who handled the sale and my lawyer to not reveal where I was going. Well...okay. :)Believe it or not, I only LOOK stupid.

I would suggest you stop trying to somehow link the people who knew Kenny Christiansen to Duane Weber. There is NO connection between these people and Weber.


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While going back and reading earlier parts of the forum (the parts where the case was actually discussed), I came across the following quote from Ckret that still rings true today. It needs to be said again:


Ckret

Here is the problem with all of the folks that have been forwarded as Db Cooper, no evidence, none, not a piece and to top it off their dead (exception of Mayfield).

I don't mean to call anyone out, but give me just one document that directly supports just one claim made. So much has been brought forward, surely there exists just one small piece of paper that can support any part of a claim. i am not asking for proof that someone is or is not cooper, just one piece of paper that can support just one small aspect of a persons story.

Is that too much to ask for? you can go on and on and on (I'll put the little dots in so I don't have to keep writing on and on)...... But until you provide something that can support your claim it's just an interesting story. The New York Times best seller list is full of examples of interesting stories, its called fiction.

So, for those of you putting forward a person of interest and you are asserting it as a matter of fact, then "show me the facts" I can't hear you!!! say it louder "show me the facts!!!!" louder, I still can't hear you, "SHOW ME THE FACTS!!!!!" Now dance when you say it, "SHOW ME THE FACTS!!!!"

Thats better, now we have something to talk about.


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Robert Blevins - BEFORE ANYONE EVER HEARD OF YOU.
JO was asking about the woman who road horses standing.

Before you ever mentioned Paradise I told about a park off the interstate and West of the interstate and there was a covert under the highway - that went to the other side.

"The guys used to stay there" An exact quote I told the FBI and Mr. H before you Blevins was ever aware of KC.

On the East side was 2 parallel power lines. I told about Duane knowing a man near The Corner Tavern who lived in a home made camper/trailer in the woods and washed his clothes in the river and was asking about Paradise Isle (but not by name).

I wrote about some of this in the early yrs, but didn't know the name of the place...just that it was a park (didn't know the name as Paradise).

Then when you mentioned the park - I knew it was the park Duane had pointed out and told me about. I have emails from before YOU ever became a part of this that state these thing....and me in the east trying to tell others what Duane told me and showed me. There are actually recordings of phone call and a letter I wrote to Himmelsback pre 2000 - before I got a computer.

WHAT are the chances? Was I doing one of BRUCE'S things -teleporting or all that weird stuff he is into.?

IT was in 101. I didn't know what the place was called. I also talked to the FBI about these thing - very early on....1997 and to Mr. H extensibly.

I personally inquired about the woman who rode horses.....strange you developed a story by contacting this woman....??????

When you were in contact with her you DENIED anyone else contact with her....WHY? I will tell you why because you engarnished everything she told you. She never told you Kenny was Cooper and you never showed her any pictures of Duane L. Weber or any other suspects.

I am quiet well aware she sold the ranch & so is everyone in this thread. Strange you wait till she is gone & you already knew she was upset with you. Remember your last conversation with her?

Maybe she is in CA working on the stroy and the movie of the century - TELLING the real truth! One that will show you to be a hoax.

Maybe she could ONLY suspect who Cooper was. Perhaps YOU never showed her the photos of any other suspects. Maybe she had NEVER seen any photos of Weber as a young man and as an adult. Maybe when she did - she decided to hold on and get the hell out of Dodge!

You never allowed her to see pictures of Weber? RIGHT!

I am not trying to do anything to LINK your story to Weber or the people who knew him - you did that just by not disclosing the woman who RODE Horses and DOING your homework.

I doubt Weber knew Kenny but he sure as hell knew the Woman who rode horses bare back standing and he probably knew her husband! I was telling about the Woman Who Rode Horsed Bareback since 1997. I thought she was just a circus act he had seen!

ONE and ONE does equal TWO - If one ignores one fact then ignores another connecting fact - something is wrong.
I already knew about the camp near TWISP and the Smoke Jumper Museum - I have copies of email I sent to you asking you to check them out on a trip you (supposedly) made. You never checked anything and I doubt you even made the trip. Yet, you continued to make it sound as though you did?

A dollar late and a dollar short!
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Here is the problem with all of the folks that have been forwarded as Db Cooper, no evidence, none, not a piece and to top it off their dead (exception of Mayfield).



His mission was to shut Cooper snoops up! He provide some things in this thread, but his intention was to divert.

The way he flossed over the background of Weber - it was evident. NOTE how conveniently they glossed Weber over - but someone screwed up - they didn't get it all....Pre 1950 Duane's Weber was arrested in the state of Wa - well, the only arrest that gave his name as Weber!

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But until you provide something that can support your claim it's just an interesting story

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Jo provided it but it was ignored.

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"show me the facts" I can't hear you!!! say it louder "show me the facts!!!!" louder, I still can't hear you, "SHOW ME THE FACTS!!!!!"



Perhaps Ckret is the one doing the dance!
HE screwed up! He missed one thing in the destruction of Weber files - just one, but it was enough. Just their saying Duane was never in McNeil - shows someone SCREWED up BIG TIME!

ERASING the existence of ones past....it is done all of the time. With new technology this is becoming more and more difficult....but, the government can do anything they want! Right?
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I won't quote over your entire post, just a couple of items at the beginning:

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'Robert Blevins - BEFORE ANYONE EVER HEARD OF YOU.
JO was asking about the woman who road horses standing.

Before you ever mentioned Paradise I told about a park off the interstate and West of the interstate and there was a covert under the highway - that went to the other side...'


I don't know about any woman who 'rode horses standing'. If you are talking about Margie Geestman, she showed me a newspaper article from probably late 70's showing her driving four draft horses in a parade in Okanogan County behind a flat cart. (I thought it was an earlier picture, but I found out later they didn't actually move to Okanagan County until years after the hijacking) They moved in this order: Lived in Bonney Lake. Moved to Oakville after the hijacking. Moved to Twisp. Divorced in 1990's. Margie stays, gets the ranch. Geestman goes to Woodinville area, then later to Port Angeles area, where he lives today. Margie sells ranch for $491,000 in 2012 to the State of Washington. Present location unknown.

The Paradise Point State Park reference by Skipp Porteous as a possible meetup spot for the hijacker was strictly a guess. And something later cast that spot into doubt anyway. It wasn't until the Helen Jones interviews that I discovered Bernie Geestman had property with a shop building (he later built a house there from plans and a kit) down in Oakville. And that's where he initially parked the famous trailer he purchased about six weeks before the hijacking.

Since we know that both Geestman and Kenny were together the week of the hijacking, and the trailer was in Oakville, we have to assume that's where he and Kenny originally went, which would be the Tuesday prior to the hijacking. Mr Geestman told his wife he was going to pick up the trailer and go camping. She was very angry that he decided to do this the same week as Thanksgiving. Helen Jones and her daughter verified this in their interviews.

Sure...it is possible that Geestman ended up at Paradise Point. But there's no way to know, and I think it's unlikely. I favor the idea that he waited at the Oakville property, and did not go farther south, at least not at first. One good reason is because the evidence shows the hijacker had no intention of remaining aboard the flight all the way to Ariel, Woodland, or wherever he finally jumped. That evidence is the request by the hijacker to take off with the stairs down. So it makes sense that Geestman might wait for him at Oakville, which is not far from Olympia. We were never able to determine if there was a phone at the Oakville property, i.e. at the shop. If you're asking the logistics on the whole thing, I have a good guess. I think Bernie Geestman and Kenny C went to Oakville on Tuesday, made some preparations, and then Bernie dropped off Kenny in Portland. Then I think Bernie returned to Oakville and waited.

I think the trailer wasn't so much to transport anyone around, but more for a place to stay for Bernie Geestman while he waits for contact from Kenny Christiansen. Also, if Geestman picked up Christiansen somewhere after the hijacking, it makes a good cover (just a guy camping), a good place to hide both Christiansen and the money for the trip back to Bonney Lake/Sumner. (In the trailer) Mrs. Geestman says her husband returned with the trailer, instead of continuing to leave it in Oakville. He would not tell her who he was with for that week. But in mid-January, Christiansen ran into Helen Jones at the Sumner Laundromat and admitted he was with Geestman that week, but he wouldn't go into details.

Of course, without a confession from Bernie Geestman, it's hard to say exactly what happened. But I have heard enough solid testimony from good witnesses to believe one thing IS for sure: That Kenny Christiansen and Bernie Geestman bailed town on the Tuesday before the hijacking and did not return until the following Monday or Tuesday afterward.

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They are beginning to eat their young, I think. First, I see Bruce Smith trying to sell people on the idea the FBI actually found Cooper on the ground, discovered he was either black ops, or FBI-related, or whatever...and then proceeded to do a phony search and a massive cover up...:S Anytime you spend millions of dollars and interview over a thousand possible suspects, that's one hell of a coverup. This makes Watergate look like peanuts. And I don't believe a word of it.

Then...a guy who absolutely hates me came down hard on this post by Galen Cook. I was mildly impressed:

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'4th grade teach decided to ditch the book, Blast, and send all of them into the trash. The kiddies spotted too many factual errors, too many made-up fables, and an author that kept repeating only one piece of alleged witness accounting that formed the basis for the entire book. Smart bunch, those 4th graders. They decided to go back to "cat in the hat" series which offers better information.
Coopsnoop...'


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'Coopsnoop: 4th graders had this level of sophistication discussing the Cooper case? All those insightful, adult questions posed earlier? I don't buy it, it sounds pretty contrived. Why don't you just come out and pose your questions and concerns, no need to hide behind a bunch of 4th graders. We're adults here, we can handle it...'



Hard to believe he would actually stick up for me. Thanks, though. I have heard Cook tell this 'my granddaughter's teacher' story before and how a bunch of fourth-graders supposedly got copies and reviewed the book. I never believed that one either. I guess even Meyer couldn't stomach that one. :)

For the record, I have no objections to allowing MeyerLouie to return to Dropzone. He was banned for name-calling on yours truly, but I no longer hold any grudges about that. Since I was the object of his banning, maybe my word on this will hold some weight. I have no problem if he's given another chance. I don't believe he ever got a temporary vacation like most everyone else who has been out of line. IMHO he deserves another chance.

Guess that's all I have to say. :)


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I don't know about any woman who 'rode horses standing'. If you are talking about Margie Geestman, she showed me a newspaper article from probably late 70's showing her driving four draft horses in a parade in Okanogan County behind a flat cart.




;)The woman was NOT on a cart. She was standing between the two lead horses - stradling them. Duane told me about this woman in 1979 as we approached the cross intersection of the highway which was the exit one would take to go to Paradise Park....he had just early mentioned a park where "the boys" used to stay.

I took maps sent to me - found the parallel power lines and the location of the Corner Tavern and then went up the Interstate and everything he said was there. YOU claimed Paradise park back when you came to this thread.

Now you say they were not at Paradise park...how many ways are you going to tell your story?

The picture I saw of a woman doing this was PRE-1970 per what she was wearing and the hair style. The woman was wearing a dress...I do NOT know when or how I saw the picture. I just remember the picture and Duane telling me in 1979 he used to know the woman (the picture and his telling me about this are two different incidents). Why I thought it was some kind of Circus act after I found out he was an ex-con and a circus was one means of employment for ex-cons.

Piecing together a 17 yr marriage built obviously on a phoney background to cover the yrs he spent in prison has been a challenge.

Duane mentioned just about every airstrip along the way. Some I could not prove or disprove until I got really good maps provided to me....old and new. Every airstrip he mentioned and pointed out no matter how insignificant actually did exist!

Duane knew these airports and these airstrips - he stated "we" and "the guys"
used to fly in and out of there. Multiple airstrips - some very insignificant.


HOW could and would a man who had spent most of his life from 1949 until 1968 in multiple prisons know all of this?
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Duane & I were married in Colorado
March 27, 1978

Duane died in Florida
March 28, 1995

Jo Weber called the FBI
May 25 1996

Jo Weber in March 2000
Called the FBI and the Agent
did NOT even have his information
about Weber correct as far as
Army records & his McNeil Records.

Jo Weber flew to WA. in 2001 for
a Documentary she never viewed.

Jo Weber flew to WA in 2010 to try
to retrace the Sentimental Journey

Bruce has NO idea what is going on!
He is frantic he is NOT on the in.

FBI is flying in to see FBI
Maybe it is a funeral or just to say
GOODBYE!

March 36 yrs ago Jo married Cooper
March 19 yrs ago Cooper died.

Jo Weber has spent 18 yrs of her
Life trying to tell the FBI who her
Husband was.

What happens in March is Spring
Arrives and NEW life springs forward
With the Lillies of March.

March on brave souls - it has been a long journey and I wish you a much needed rest & wish I was there.

Resolutions may never come, but life does come to an end. We are on borrowed time from the day we are born.
It is what we do with that time that counts.

Bruce was never part of this venture & he never will be.

Time to say GOOD BYE - nothing Bruce needs to concern himself with.
Bruce was never part of Cooper
Bruce is NO truth SAYER
So why is he so distressed?
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The problem Robert, is that there is no evidence whatsoever to back up that story. It's just that...a story. Even if Christiansen and Geestman did disappear that weekend (which I doubt), that does not tie them to the hijacking. It does not even remotely suggest involvement in the hijacking in the slightest way. There is absolutely nothing that suggests they were doing anything other than camping.
"They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider

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Bruce was never part of this venture & he never will be.



Wrong Jo. You may despise Bruce, but he is part of the DB Cooper venture.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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Bruce was never part of this venture & he never will be.



Wrong Jo. You may despise Bruce, but he is part of the DB Cooper venture.

377



All he has ever done is hypothecize & be rude & caused harm & mental stress to the real victims in this case. He acts like a spoiled child who thinks everything is his way or no way. If you do NOT agree with him he is spiteful (one can see this in his writings). Writers like this are opinionated bores (such as his writings about Tina and her family when they refused to be interviewed). He attacks - he does not interview. You guys might call this jounalization - I call it something else!

Individuals like this use words to as their swords when others refuse to do his or her bidding. They are incompassionate and do not care that their self filling actions leave emotional scars.

I do not consider such actions as being part of the Cooper investigation....he cannot be objective or fair when a witness or individual refuses to speak or act on his command. He can't even be kind! He also twist things to meet his own agendas.

He did that with me - therefore he has treated others the same - they just didn't ruffle his feathers or they never read the reports he made regarding discussions concluded.
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Everybody brings baggage Jo. You do. I do. Bruce does.

But we are all on the Cooper plane, like it or not. You aren't the TSA.

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