Donald Trump Versus Hillary Clinton

[rushmc 18]

normiss

You keep slinging unproven accusations like they mean something.
You're gonna need to waste a few more million on wasteful committees I think.

Gotta wonder how Trump will fare in court though.

And I wonder how Hillary will fare in prison

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

rushmc

***You keep slinging unproven accusations like they mean something.
You're gonna need to waste a few more million on wasteful committees I think.

Gotta wonder how Trump will fare in court though.

And I wonder how Hillary will fare in prison

Probably about as well as Scooter Libby did.

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[normiss 622]

Zero chance of that happening, Trump however, has been listed on the witness list of his RICO trial for scamming people out of millions.

[rushmc 18]

normiss

Zero chance of that happening, Trump however, has been listed on the witness list of his RICO trial for scamming people out of millions.

Yep
And Zimmerman is free.

Your point?


(talk about moving goal posts)

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[gowlerk 1,913]

Just start practicing saying "President Clinton" again. Sucks to be you. Your team just can't seem to shoot straight anymore. Maybe you need a decent coach.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[rushmc 18]

Did you happen to see the exit polling info that came out of Virginia?

Where Bernie wiped the floor with Hillary!

43% of those who voted for Bernie (you know the guy, the one that kicked Hillarys butt) would vote for Trump if Hillary gets the nomination!! WOW!

And just yesterday those three national polls that show Trump tied or leading?? Did you?

I doubt. Your news sources will not carry that kind of info.

Knowing this I just thought I would share with you.

Sir Edmund Hillary was whom the Dem leader was named after???

this is a good one too!

Dead Broke – In an interview, Clinton stated that she “came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt.” Something even the left-leaning Politifact found to be false.

It will be fun talking about straight shooting with you regarding Hillary and Trump

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

Hillary Clinton

"You are three times more likely to be able to get a mortgage if you're a white applicant than if you're black or Hispanic, even if you have the same credentials."

Politifact FALSE

Hillary Clinton

"We now have more jobs in solar than we do in oil."

Politifact FALSE

Hillary Clinton

"Every piece of legislation, just about, that I ever introduced (in the U.S. Senate) had a Republican co-sponsor."

Politifact FALSE

Here is a good one

Hillary Clinton

"We now have driven (health care) costs down to the lowest they've been in 50 years."

Politifact FALSE

Here is one some of you here believed

Hillary Clinton

The Benghazi probe is "the longest-running congressional investigation ever."

Politifact FALSE (not by a long shot)

False
No, it was a boon to renewable fuel industry


Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton

"So that 2005 energy bill was a big step backwards on the path to clean, renewable energy. That's why I voted against it."

Politifact FALSE (It was a boon to renewables)

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jcd11235 0]

rushmc

Hillary Clinton

"You are three times more likely to be able to get a mortgage if you're a white applicant than if you're black or Hispanic, even if you have the same credentials."

Politifact FALSE

Hillary Clinton

"We now have more jobs in solar than we do in oil."

Politifact FALSE

Hillary Clinton

"Every piece of legislation, just about, that I ever introduced (in the U.S. Senate) had a Republican co-sponsor."

Politifact FALSE

Here is a good one

Hillary Clinton

"We now have driven (health care) costs down to the lowest they've been in 50 years."

Politifact FALSE

Here is one some of you here believed

Hillary Clinton

The Benghazi probe is "the longest-running congressional investigation ever."

Politifact FALSE (not by a long shot)

False
No, it was a boon to renewable fuel industry


Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton

"So that 2005 energy bill was a big step backwards on the path to clean, renewable energy. That's why I voted against it."

Politifact FALSE (It was a boon to renewables)

Now let's see how things look when you don't cherry-pick.

Clinton vs. Trump.

Even Sanders has made a slightly higher proportion of false, mostly false, and "pant on fire" claims than Clinton.

It appears that if you truly value honesty in your candidates, then your only viable option among the remaining major candidates is Hillary Clinton.

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[normiss 622]

This isn't about truth, it's about hate.
Period.
Hate with no foundation for that matter.

[rushmc 18]

I am here to enjoy the show

The show driven by the Hillary is perfect crowd.

Remember, I was not a Trump supporter.

But he is much better than Hillary.


I do enjoy her namesake claim however.

THAT is a good one

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 622]

It's nice to see that you admit to enjoying untruths.

[jakee 1,255]

rushmc

***Zero chance of that happening, Trump however, has been listed on the witness list of his RICO trial for scamming people out of millions.

Yep
And Zimmerman is free.

So is Clinton. I guess that means she didn't do anything wrong, right?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[normiss 622]

I love SC comparisons.

[jakee 1,255]

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Did you happen to see the exit polling info that came out of Virginia?

Where Bernie wiped the floor with Hillary!

43% of those who voted for Bernie (you know the guy, the one that kicked Hillarys butt) would vote for Trump if Hillary gets the nomination!! WOW!

West Virginia? A giant 5 electoral votes that haven't been blue since 1996? Yeah, that's the fulcrum this whole thing is swinging on.

Dude, you gotta be really reaching to get that excited about it.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[jcd11235 0]

rushmc

Did you happen to see the exit polling info that came out of Virginia?

Where Bernie wiped the floor with Hillary!

43% of those who voted for Bernie (you know the guy, the one that kicked Hillarys butt) would vote for Trump if Hillary gets the nomination!! WOW!

More interestingly, 39 percent of those who voted for Sanders would vote for Trump if Sanders gets the nomination.

That tells us about 39 percent of those who voted for Sanders were actually Trump (or at least Republican) supporters casting spoiler votes. (ETA: Source)

Sanders received 123,860 votes.
Clinton received 86,354 votes.

Let's adjust Sanders' tally to remove the crossover spoiler votes. 123,860 * .61 = (approximately) 75,555, well below Clinton's total.

There were probably some spoiler votes cast against the "democratic socialist" Sanders, too, but not likely as many, since HatingHillary™ has long been a Republican pastime.

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[rushmc 18]

jcd11235

***Did you happen to see the exit polling info that came out of Virginia?

Where Bernie wiped the floor with Hillary!

43% of those who voted for Bernie (you know the guy, the one that kicked Hillarys butt) would vote for Trump if Hillary gets the nomination!! WOW!

More interestingly, 39 percent of those who voted for Sanders would vote for Trump if Sanders gets the nomination.

That tells us about 39 percent of those who voted for Sanders were actually Trump (or at least Republican) supporters casting spoiler votes.

Sanders received 123,860 votes.
Clinton received 86,354 votes.

Let's adjust Sanders' tally to remove the crossover spoiler votes. 123,860 * .61 = (approximately) 75,555, well below Clinton's total.

There were probably some spoiler votes cast against the "democratic socialist" Sanders, too, but not likely as many, since HatingHillary™ has long been a Republican pastime.

I don't hate Hillary

I hate what she promotes and stands for.

I have friends and relatives in the same boat.

Like Trump said, He thinks Hillary is a good person and she works hard. Fine. I know people I feel the same way about but I do not want them to ever be President.

The part of your post (and not just yours) is somehow it is an emotional thing if I disagree with you (just for this example)

It is not emotional!!!! It is based on my beliefs and life experiences. It is the same for you.

The BIG difference??? When talking to someone I disagree with I just think they are wrong.

When many here disagree with me, I am hateful, a racist, miss-informed, uneducated or just plain stupid. Sorry, that type of response is just plain political correct bull shit running amok. I pay little attention to that anymore and just chuckle a bit to myself. Billvon is the biggest contributor to my attitude. That attitude being that I do not care what others think. I refuse to give anyone that kind of power over me.

As for the rest of your post. Good questions. Many will never have an answer. But the Sanders supporters are plenty pissed off that they are winning all these states and the non voted for super delegates keep Clinton in the lead. Hell, in a couple of states her lead grew and she LOST the state!!! So when they anoint Clinton with her crown at the convention, there will be many pissed off who will not vote for her. And yes, I know that works for both sides.


Anyway, we are dealing with a shit sandwich regardless of the side we support. We are just picking the one that tastes less like shit in our own minds.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 1,623]

rushmc

I don't hate Hillary

Did your nose just grow a bit?

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[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

Hi Mark,

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This isn't about truth, it's about hate.

^^^^ This!

It works very well for Limbaugh, Hannity, etc, why stop now?

It is going to be interesting to see how many people we know that will vote for Trump.

The true colors are beginning to show.

Jerry Baumchen

[wmw999 2,122]

What we're going to see is more and more people talking about the new "talk shit" campaign style, and there will be zero references to flip-flopping. On the dem side, people are going to be just as quiet, because frankly Hillary is no more an engaging candidate than Trump is. She's more qualified, and more consistent, but not engaging. And yeah, she'd do just about anything to sell her candidacy, with the possible exception of selling Chelsea's new baby-naming rights. But she's mostly stuck inside the rather awful boundaries of campaigning-as-it-is; she hasn't turned campaigning into a blood sport.

Trump could turn out to be better than expected. However, just as faith healers can, in fact, heal some people, I still will probably choose to go with the person with actual demonstrable experience in the area.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

Hi Wendy,

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choose to go with the person with actual demonstrable experience in the area.

As I will. Hillary is nowhere close to being my first choice. She is just the best choice at this time.

My first vote for a president was in 1964, LBJ vs Goldwater.



Jerry Baumchen

[gowlerk 1,913]

Hi Rush. Commander in Chief Clinton. Get used to it.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[rushmc 18]

gowlerk

Hi Rush. Commander in Chief Clinton. Get used to it.

Not yet

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 622]

Soon, soon.

[nolhtairt 0]

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.


Other than that, I'll have to wait and see. Trump is the wild card. We've never had a POTUS nominee quite like him before. I'm not crazy about him, but neither am I about Hillary. And Bernie?

[normiss 622]

This is Trump, not spending millions on his campaign.

Shyster, in every sense of the word.