VectorBoy

Secret ninja wingsuit society.... you are bad! Do you think they will let me join now that I have a black wingsuit or will I need an eyepatch as well.

Its acually easier for me to start the back fly right out the door. If I try and rotate later I might drop way below ( 50% of the time) the formation. All of this is much harder to nail If I have a camera on unless I start on my back. The body position for some back flyers are different individual to individual. For me I must be flat or a little arched ( upside down de-arched to the horizon ). This position is hard to hold, and like you stated, can go headlow and zoom down ward if not carefull. personnally if I look down at my toes and curl my back up its over for me, I drop out. While others that back fly can zoom around the entire jump in a body position that resembles lying relaxed in a hamock. IMHO its easier to do on an S-3 than a classic ( for me) as you can hold and pull the wing tips easier. Easier still for me to do on my matter which tends to fly more stable front or back. All I can say is practice, practice, practice... oh and maybe abdominals. Practice the recovery position if you are droping out, just like on a free fly sit jump. Leg wings together upper wings out and back. Do this on solos, a perfect excuse to fly when alone. This will help you focus on your body position and not the flock later add someone to fly camera for you to analize your body possition and fall rate. Don't forget heading control either don't want to zoom too far from the landing area Hope this helps.

Its not just jump number related but more a factor of how comfortable is the rider ( and the ridee ) in going into unusal attitudes. Some low time jumpers haven't funnelled since AFF or hate doing it regardless. Its better if they are comfortable and maybe do a little free fly. As far as what not to touch, its hard to get around the wings to accidentally grab a handle so in that respect its a safer rodeo. You can still grab a hacky and need to be aware of that. Once in stable flight the rider can instigate a turn by putting a knee down on the trailing edge of the wing and the pilot won't be able to counter correct for it. In rodeos the rider does not need to have their legs draped down and locked around the pilot, this acts as a tremendous belly brake and slows down forward flight. Simply hold on to the harness at the shoulders. The rest of your body should just be laying on top of the wingsuit and legs along the pilots waist or behind the wing if possible. The low time rider is usually a better rider in that once the flight is stable they sit quietly on the back most often below the burble and let the pilot do the flying. I prefer those jumpers as compared to the high time free fly goddess that likes to spank the monkey. This is fine for that crazy free fly hybrid gone bad but creates wild occilations were the wingsuit is along for the ride instead of the other way around. Then again if its preplanned a little spanking can be fun for all.

You can't always count ( more likely in CReW, less in other types of dives due to separation before deployment) that others have seen your mal. A few months back on a 10 way bird man jump our group experienced two mals on the same jump. Half of the group landed back at the DZ and not everybody saw the cuttaways. I, for instance, only saw one and was told of the other after arranging for vehicle response.

Oh I know about the tracking ( non-wing)camp/comp that you folks have. I gotta attend myself one of these years. It just seems that the tall lad should have won it. Well maybe he was just focused on safety he can keep his S3 then.

Don't get me wrong Robyn, I wasn't talking about the kind you get in those really freakin big malls across america. And my apologies to the nice handfull of ladies that could find several two foot high marked stakes on a rough country orienteering course like the military uses. But come on, that is is some funny shit. Ok some might just be transvestites. Doh!

Show me a chick with a map and I'll show you a transexual.

Some people believe they create too much strain for the shoulders. Others believe that you should be able to maintain a sit even in a tee shirt.

I'm going to shoot for cutting myself off around midnight each night until Friday. Then I'll blow it out. In 2002 I partied so much I was LITERALLY in a haze for weeks after the convention. It was fun but I wanna jump more this time. Now that you posted your goals on the site there may be an unscrupulous team of boobies that make it hard for you to reach this goal ( things could be worse ). Remember you put the target on your back not me.

Careful now, you might end up tracking from jump run screaming over the ground thinking you are Jari Jr then turn the 180 back and nuttin, standing still in the air. This happened to a lot of people at WFFC 03. Smaller heading changes and keep the DZ near. But if you learned to jump in big winds you know what to expect.

You meen Tall guy didn't clean house? He must surrender his S-3 to the propper authorities mat once!

Good luck on limiting your late nighters, no really! The 50 jumps are very doable. Giggle away hombre but on your fourth or fifth late night bash please think of me Zoinks.

Isn't that the lad you shot going out of the balloon in eloy on his 100th?

is no more entertaining, freefall wise, than one gets for the $45 one pays for a jump from Mike's plane from 23k. Chuck Blue D-12501 ODA 724 MFFJM, retired Then maybe you need to add some wings to the mix.

Stimpy, you forgot lens adapter diameters. Just kidding! Its a nice little data base.

How do you like the Tri deployments under wingsuit?

More like had, It became the swoop cam or as Jack described it the crash into the thingy on top of the object cam.

Other than hand placement I've not change my exit on otters or Caravans. I have over 500 jumps from the camera step of Caravans.Quote Where is the camera step on the caravan? Is it like the otters or lower? I've only jumped the one at San Diego and wasn't using /didn't notice the camera step.

-I jump regularly and won’t be happy with less than 5 BM jumps a weekend Quote I think based on this alone you will be fine if not better than most that do primarily other kinds of skydives and just dabble in wingsuits. For some people the S3 is easy to fly and can be flown a little relaxed instead of maxed.

You can't go wrong with a lightly loaded seven cell. Even one that opens harshly in freefall might just snivel sweetly in bird-man deployment speeds. I'm thinking of getting a big tri for that reason. Most of the guys that base their suits fly spectres and Tris. You can't go wrong with any of the semi-elliptical nines ( or rectangular nines .). Many jumpers who are very currant with their extreme X-braced do fine with wingsuits. They have excepted the personnal added risk and validate it via( in their opinion) an intimate awareness of that particular canopy. Most likely they have already experienced malfunctions and claim they understand how it behaves in good or in bad. I used to jump a moderately loaded elliptical That would open absolutely straight like it was on rails it was perfect for my wingsuiting. If it did have line twists it would fly along straight as I untwisted without input. After having an H-mod done to the nose it snivels forever. I have turned it into a fantastic camera canopy but now that it spends so much time in a slider snivel ( this does not happen in regular free fall deployment speeds, just from WS deployments ) I have gotten myself into trouble if i fail to "fly the slider openning". The heading is whatever direction I was aiming at when the slider comes down finally and if it goes into line twists it will dive guaranteed. I've chopped it once and brake fires on openings can be exciting. Since, while wearing a wingsuit, you can't effectively grab the rear risers during the opening. It is much harder to kick out of twists and much easier to get into twists as your lowerbody can become a vane if not perfectly collapsed as you are pulled upright. I would stick with canopys that are resistant to twist up, don't dive hard if in twists. Your experience, skill, exceptance of personal risk and quest for a certain canopy openning dynamic may dictate a completely different canopy from myself or someone else who may be willing to fly their wingsuit lower and deploy much lower. Or who may want to fly heavy cameras or who just wants to fly their suit deploy high have plenty of time to secure the wings and still swoop the canopy.

I jumped up and down with Jari in the landing area, I was so excited and my hands didn't stop shaking for 20 minutes after the landing! I can definitely see how addictive wingsuits can be, the flight was nothing like anything I had experienced before. I loved it!

One of the Hills may fly you personnal style, to from, in the L-39 if you buy the gas and a bag of chips.

ME!!! OF COURSE!!! I`m serious I will vote for you if they let you wear your wingsuit!

I'm just curious about the opennings guys, Thanks again. As far as making it back from a longspot downwind, anybody with the skills to hang in the propper amount of rear risers can make a mega diver flatten out and still penetrate nice.

IYO, which hunts more on openning a stilleto or katana of the same size?