VectorBoy

I recommend you get it as soon as you get yankin and bankin out of your system, assuming that it ever was in yours. Most of my friends enjoyed a little unusual attitude, others lived on the edge. But I know at least a couple that dreaded even doing a spin. The rating is said to be the hardest to get, I just think its the hardest to stay current on. If your heart is really there, you prepare, study and get a good instructor it can be as easy as you make it. Its a lot of precision flying. Nailing altitudes and headings instead of boring holes and cruzing places. Know the aircraft you are most often to fly's numbers and how to make it fly those numbers you want without too much input and constant tweaking from you. Then there is the "system". If you were the kind of PVT pilot that hated to talk to ATC, avoided class B used corridors and flew low all the time between non tower airports. Don't laugh there are a lot of pvt pilots that are scared of high traffic and complex cockpit multi-tasking. All of this will be harder for you and I recommend some time getting aquainted with all of the services available to you ( IFR or VFR ) from getting good and friendly with the ATC "system". IF you have to stop training for what ever reason it is not like riding a bicycle, and you can't just resume with a little review. Its more like waking from a long coma and you have to learn to walk again. Try to have the resources to keep flowing thru this mostly more so than all of the other ratings. Good luck buddy!

[PFFFTTT thats a slow dive...I can get you to go faster if your rig and nerves can handle it She is right, she kept walking up to me later to show me her audible and the thing was shivering.

Of being slowly digested for the rest of my agonizing life by some rare, crippling disease with no cure. Oh and that Sunshine will get mad at me and have to kick my ass.

If she was semi-attractive, superficial intellectual, psychology major that 's going to college thanks to daddy's smarts and not hers. Who then precedes to analyze and tell me what is wrong with me and the world.

Yes you are right but to do a whole body you will need so much that the only way to go is liquid oxygen, The FBO won't have that. Then there is that whole freezing your parts off and keeping the body saturated and not your body saturated while it goes up uncontrolably

All of the Base wingsuiters that I know personnally that Have planned a water landing wore a thin 2 mil wet suit to protect themselves from the cooler fiord water temps. Even a little neoprene has a lot of bouyancy. But it sounds like some have had luck without the use of floatation assistance. Tom made a comment earlier in a different forum PM him or post this in the Base forum as those folks would be the likely practitioners of intentional wingsuit water landings.

Hell yaeah log it. Do trackers log FF time? Often times I've got my arm and leg wings on my ass to catch a wayward student or ballistic wingsuiter, Am I falling? My protrac says I am. I'm logging it as such until I strap on a wingsuit propulsion system that allows me to either climb or maintain altitude for extended periods. THEN I'm going log that time as single engine neither land nor sea, Pilot in command time until burnout and glide.

This is getting so far off topic it's not even funny, but what the hell. 2. You mention smart business practices. Did you consider that in many cases it is ultimately less expensive for credit card companies to write off losses due to fraud than it is to complete a full investigation and prosecution? I'm guessing that you didn't. >3. As for 'throwing credit at people who shouldn't >have it', well, that's for them to decide, not you. Jim Really don't feel this way when I'm bombarded with preapproved CC at my home in not only my name but variations of my name or nick names. Sounds like they are going off of some list... and not an application that I requested. Maybe that other CC companies are selling..... Hmmmmn? But you are right this tangent is silly and off topic. But while we are here I would have to say that I've heard the DZ staff complain more about CC fees than the cost of Avfuel. And now back to our main topic.

I know a lady very well that gets quite a bit of enormous, very glamorous CZ and loves to torture some female companions that are, well , that petty that something like that tortures them. In turn when she wears her real stuff, that is mostly family heirloom, she swears its only CZ. She gets called on it because the real stuff has some minor flaws. Which ironically adds a false validity to the fakes.

Smuggle some civilized toilets from canada, bring enough to share with your friends.

Sorry lad My computer is acting up and I thought it ate it. I'm having vuja day.

Gouged? They've got as much as anyone, or any business, to make a profit. Right? Remember, it was the merchant that agreed to abide by their rules No business on the planet has a RIGHT to make a profit. Profits come from smart business practices. There is a lot of slop in the CC companies practices. They are throwing credit at people who shouldn't have it, they barely do a thing about fraud. And why should they? They will make up there losses by increasing charges to the merchants and to the end user. Its cheaper, easier and a no -brainer. So the next time you complain about the price of your credit purchased jump tickets going up just remember that you are helping somebody fraudulently get something for nothing. And this is the "no hassle"way of smoothing it all out.

Patrick had one of the first designs for sure. Bird-man didn't get their start until a few months after Patricks death. I'm not at home now to quote the article from Bird-man. Robert and Jari took that dream and made it a reality for many people. I'm not sure if Loic's mono wing didn't have a head start on Bird-mans. I heard the design isn't entirely his and that the concept was from a paraglider pilot who had the first one. Details are sketchy and unconfirmable.

Sorry, but I strongly have to disagreee here. It's VERY simple to turn your head to the side and watch the pilot chute as it leaves your hand without flipping onto your side.Quote It is simple to do but not everyone can do it without dipping a shoulder. Dipping the shoulder during deployment increases your chance of some line twists.

The ability to exit as a group and stay in that group becomes paramount in the large-boogie scenario. Head-on collisions between flock members (or entire flocks) would be very ugly. Expect very-structured briefings every morning at the convention and be prepared to stick with whatever flight plan we come up with. Chuck Blue BMCI If the amount of wingsuiters is as big as you predict then it will really require that not only the flockers coordinate activities but also that the various manifests, whether it be three or more, communicate with each other so they can brief wingsuiters about to board on the subject of other flocks in the near pattern. Even though the other group could be on a competeing companies aircraft.

Ditto what Ed says. I get puckered when some low timish jumper comes up and wants a wingsuit DEMO and they happen to regularly jump a high performance canopy but swear they get great deployments on it. I get worried enough to ask if they have access to a more docile rig and main. MORE times than not these individuals get nice deployments when they take their combo to wingsuit flight. I get bummed when I give a person with many thousands of jumps who have many thousands of jumps on a very conservative main a wingsuit a ground class and blessing and have them report back that they had the worst line twists ever. My new posture will be to stress a relaxed symmetrical deployment with an intimate knowledge of their current main and container before they take their current rig into wingsuit flight. Its their judgment that will keep them safe after all.

This is the best reply to your poll Arther, although I'm wise enough to know that if you are in the market you won't listen, its too late. And now we return you to your regularly scheduled poll. Paid about 2k for hers It looks nice on her hands and even better when she is doing things too me with her hands. I paid about 375 for mine and never wear it as I stick my hands into 4 thousand volt cubicles and rotating equiptment every day at work. I'm not into jewelry as it makes me feel like an interior decorator or used car salesman. I like watches not slim bodied ones like interior decorators or used car salesmen wear but big ones in stainless or tactical black that go to 300 feet below. Even though its been 2 years since I've been that far below. If a watch has an altimeter and a laser designater I'm in hog heaven. Demerits if its doubles as cell phone. I'll trade you a rarely worn "man band" for a suunto vector watch in black. No cracks about big watch ~small package! general dynamics and G electric can make diamonds all day long so that whole two months salery ssssshhhhtick debeers says is out the window. Don't be fooled!

Believe it or not this is the smartest reply on this tread buddy boy! I'm just wise enough to know that you won't listen to his advice on this subject and return you to your regularly scheduled poll. Hers I paid 2k for. It looks nice on her hand and when she is doing nicer things to me with her hands. I paid 375 for mine and never wear it as I stick my hand into 4 thousand volt breaker cubicles and onto big rotating machinery on a daily basis. I avoid jewelry. It makes me feel like a wanna be pimp punk, a used car salesman or interior decorator. I'm into watches and not the gold thin bodied type that interior decorators and used car salesman have. Stainless or dark tactical and they have to be good to 300 feet below. Even though its been at least 3 years since I've been that low below. If a watch has an altimeter and a laser designator built in I'm in hog heaven. BTW it gets demerits if it doubles as a cell phone, yuk! And please no jokes about big watch small package!

Since my skydiving gear is really nothing spectacular I haven't had to loan it. But I own a few wing suits, one of them being one of a kind. I don't mind loaning some of them. And one of them has a tremendous amount of jumps that I didn't put on it, that one gets passed around quite a bit, even for extended periods. Stains are not a problem as I own a bitchen washing machine. I only get tweaked if someone does an ass grind landing in my suits. If you can't stand up a landing in your present garb work on it BEFORE you do something on the little extra side of skydiving, more so if the gear is borrowed. These suits are 10 times as expensive as any jump suit and unlike any jumpsuit they cannot be repaired by just anybody. I've been lucky, my suits get good treatment and good enjoyment , for the most part( why I share ) I've only had one bad incident. Other wing suit loaning peers of mine are not quite so lucky.

If one were to call Visa/MC and complain, they'd still get their account yanked for charging a fee for CC use. I doubt the CC would turn their nose at all that bothersome profit. After all its them whom gouged first remember?

I betcha James has some based on his line of work. If I was in the market I would ask him myself. What does James have to say Hmmmmnnn?

No need to log the tunnel, video all of your tunnel experience. Its a tool, you are working on something. Video it so you can keep learning.

But when I have talked to a BMI about deployment he mentioned that they have revised the method to more of a "sitting" deployment. Quote What some jumpers do to kill forward speed and increase their downward trajectory is bring the legs up like in a squat. This is more of a fluid movement and not a position. In some cases this helps decrease the "trap door effect" of having your feet whipped out in front of you like a tandem ride. As the deployments starts to pull you upright it looks very much like you are sitting. IMPORTANT: at no time should you legs and feet be brought up and BEHIND your body like in a hard arch. You want to avoid the D-bag from striking your heels and spinning up as it comes off your back.

Whow dude, me too. Scarey. I had one saturday morning also. And you know what? After reviewing the video it was avoidable, I just needed to "fly the snivel" for longer before diverting my attention. I knew something was wrong when I glanced back up to see line twists where there was none before and my canopy heading to earth while I was on my back... in a wingsuit... with a camera helmet. My new H-mod ensures a hefty ground hungry dive compared to before and now the canopy stays in a snivel for a long time.... no really! It was avoidable but I did the right thing, no regrets there. Its all on video which is cool and a learning experience. One of the thoughts ironically going through my mind was all of the people that have gone in fighting junk after recent joking by peers. Smart move on not attempting a rears landing in a panic situation. My first rears practice was in a perfect situation, slow speed and still pretty dramatic in a comedy kind of way and on video too. Practice rears later maybe with a coach and video.

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