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Wow, so this is not just a scenario with real possibilities, but one that has already happened. I'm curious to learn more about what brought about that type of intervention, how deep it got, and what the guidelines were that resulted in the state gov't getting out. AMDG

So are we talking high probability of serious injury or risk to others or are these rare to very rare incidents? Or, are we coming down on the side of any probability or serious risk or injury to others is unacceptable and warrants more policing of a jumpers canopy size? I think the "any probability" and potential for an outside agency to step in could be arguments in favor of an additional rule(s). AMDG

These are mistakes that have a high probability of causing serious injury or death to others. Can we say the same about someone who uses a high performance canopy? AMDG

Curious to know who else signed up for this. Looks like its full already. AMDG

Are you sure you wouldn't rather have a second rig? AMDG

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This is an argument I fully support and can side with. Now we are making rules to protect ourselves from the actions of others. Now, assuming that we pass such rule/requirement, who gets charged with the responsibility of enforcing it, and HOW do they go about enforcing it? AMDG

I don't think there is one. As much as I hate to see people hurt or lose their lives, I find myself coming down against unnecessarily making rules to protect people from themselves. However, I come from this background: I didn't start skydiving until the last year of my thirties and I knew I wasn't indestructible. I felt that I had a good safety awareness instilled by Jim Wallace's school. Also, I was doing my AFF levels 3 & 4 and very close to the landing strip on July 19, 2003 when I saw the downplane & low hookturn that had Eric Denney on life support for so long and that had a really big impact on me. JP's comment that people didn't always pull above 2000' until a BSR was created gave me quite some pause for thought, but the difference here is that the deployment altitude isn't something that people are looking to "test out of." This isn't going to affect me either, but I thought I'd throw in my two cents about creating rules that (I feel) lessen an individual's responsibility to himself. AMDG

Come to the Big Opening this Spring @ Perris: VALLERINA'S ASS -- The world's foremost gambling and drinking emporium for skydivers. "Liquor in the front; Poker in the rear." (I feel so 8th grade) AMDG

Victory is mine! AMDG

Doesn't this argument eventually boil down to where we draw the line on how many laws/rules we want to create to protect people from themselves? (Enough so that the sport looks attractive to new people and so that you don't get shut down by the rest of society, and not so much that you completely absolve people from their own responsibility to themselves.) My two cents: 'no' to a BSR on canopy loading. AMDG

Everyone's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another drink. AMDG

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Jim Wallace Dan Brodsky-Chenfeld Michael Owens AMDG

I've had a couple of these and they're pretty good, but everytime I order one I always find myself thinking about the legendary white bat in the Ace Ventura 2 "When Nature Calls" movie AMDG

Why is it that I moved here, again? Oh yeah, for the freakin' sun AMDG

Change the font for your name. It looks like Michele Lejjer. AMDG

Yes. And we missed you at the mm march AMDG

One is suicide, the other is homocide. Unless of course, you euthanize yourself, then I guess its both. AMDG

Because you have big boobies? AMDG

40/M 1. 0.234 2. 0.234 3. 0.234 4. 0.204 5. 0.250 Avg: 0.23120000000000002 AMDG

"Things I hate about you" on Bravo. AMDG

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Everyone's got to believe in something; I believe I'll have another drink. -Alcoholics Unanimous AMDG

I'm there! AMDG