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I believe that whatever action we are trying to take is good, but not enough. Most "democracies" are trying first and foremost to try and not crash the economy too much. This will kill LOTS more rather than HARD decisions. I really wish some stronger orders would be pushed on us here in Switzerland. This is a total mindfuck. Difficult to push wartime decisions on people who do not understand they are under siege. We need strict confinement, regular testing, and federal feeding for those who cannot grow their own food. This will be the only way (I believe) to calm down the progression of the virus and help the medical system cope with the full hands they already have until someone finds a cure for this shit. We are seeing our neighbour Italy having each day a new record of deaths per 24Hours, and all others for the moment ramping up on contamination cases. Brace for impact, the wave is huge. Love you all

Oh, we need video of this! "NO WEED FOR YOU!!! NEXT!"

One man? No. But if that one man can get isolation procedures in place rapidly it could have a huge effect. Not the man, but the procedures he puts in place. I am sure you have seen the same simulations that I have; what we do really does matter.

that article says the Swiss are disciplined and whatever good people who do whatever they are told ... Illusion. We are as stupid as the rest. In my family we are distancing, shopping if possible for the week for necessary stuff, but we see lots of products missing in the shops (toilet paper for one, but we already had enough prior to the outbreak... must have a 2-3 weeks stock for a family of 5) as some people do a lot of panic buying. Luckily the shops re-stock regularly, but if you are late shopping, what you want will be missing. In my area, lots of small shops/butchers/vegetable shops etc have developed a pre/order+pre/pay system, so you go and pickup your order without contact, which is good, because you have better quality, often at a better price than in a supermarket. And we are mobilising parts of the army to help out, for now only/mostly medical troops. Waiting for the government to allow "older" guys like me to join again. In the meantime, lots of people do not want to play by the recommendations and still go out, travel, hike and stuff.. I love the nature, I love to have fun in the "great wide open", reason why I limit myself to be able to enjoy the "Full Size Life" as soon as possible.

OTOH, driving in minefields can lead to a big surprises.

Some folks don’t have a sprayer handy. And then there are the half-baths... Other than that, sprayers are great, especially if the water is heated And Hi Darius —sorry I missed the last post! Wendy P.

"Morgan Stanley estimated the savings of automated freight delivery to be a staggering $168 billion per year in saved fuel ($35 billion), reduced labor costs ($70 billion), fewer accidents ($36 billion) and increased productivity and equipment utilization ($27 billion). That’s an enormously high incentive to show drivers to the door – it would actually be enough to pay the drivers their $40,000 a year salary to stay home and still save almost $100 billion per year... Trucks that drive themselves are already rolling out around the world. Self-driving trucks successfully made deliveries in Nevada and Colorado in 2017. Rio Tinto has 73 autonomous mining trucks hauling iron ore 24 hours a day in Australia. Europe saw its first convoys of self-driving trucks cross the continent in 2016. ." Above story by Andrew Yang, yeah the democrat Yang. 000's of engineers and economics will drive(sorry for that) this industry. Anyone that has watched a self driving agricultural sprayer whip around trees, telephone poles, rock piles at 20mph. All while precisely placing its 90' booms within 2' of the obstruction can see the advantages.

Its still coming because the cpu, sensors, lidars, etc. Don't smoke pot, talk on cell phones, get hungry, tired, etc. Automated trucking, a technical milestone that could disrupt hundreds of thousands of jobs, hits the road

Imagine the course of of events with regards to trump's popularity and changing perceptions of trump. If he had handled this C-19 crisis as if it was a war that required real leadership. Had he handed this crisis off to either McMaster or Mattis. To fight this with focus, speed and resources. Then rode that outcome to the 2020 election. If he set aside self promoting narcissism to fight this crisis. Polls indicate he would win. How about that! and you're right I didn't. But trump can't change his stripes..er the color of his skin.

Name one?

Thanks for the more detailed response. I will try to point out a few positions in error. The so called MSM that trump supporters love to attack. Have to sell advertising. They have markets that they have to appeal to. Broadly speaking they have to appeal to the majorities of Americans. The center and to the right-left of the spectrum. There are no major newspapers in the US that outright support trump. AKA FOX. FOX is the only outlet that unabashedly will support most every lie and position he establishes. I agree that CNN will bash and attack every position trump maintains. That their journalists phrase their questions to solicit responses derogatory of trump, details at 0600. But they seldom lie. When they make a mistake in fact they usually correct it. They invite trump apologists to air their views. FOX does not. ABC, CBS, Time magazine, US news, let alone BBC, etc. To read your logic they all have journalists out to smear trump. Sorry to disappoint you. Thats not the case. IMO the hard core trump base, 28-32% of the US population will support trump regardless of what he does. Then there is another 25%, more or less that doesn't follow every twist, turn of Washington and media coverage of politics. That support him from time to time. "Put political 'stuff' aside requires an an ability to reach across the political divide for common objectives. Again and again trump has spoken about doing exactly that. Only to change his mind when his base attacks such compromise. In addition he refuses to recognize that all sides can be "winners" in a negotiation. For him he has to see victory in a negotiation.Or at least paint a loss as a victory. Instead of interjecting himself into the daily C-19 press conference. He could leave it up to Pence.To medical professionals. Thats who he appointed to lead the response. He could chair a daily conference with democrats and republicans. To craft a united response to the fiscal needs of America.The medical response that America needs. Unfortunately that type of leadership runs contrary to his objectives of November 2. Currently the election is the only thing that matters to him. It also runs contrary to his inherent need to have the spotlight solely on himself.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I, of course, was never, ever, at a DZ party where drugs were present that I didn't approve of. And I certainly have never been drunk enough to puke. But his upward political career is probably over. Wendy P.

I'm barely younger -- I was 19 when he resigned. And I wouldn't roll out the red carpet, even though he was, overall, a far better President. Mainly because he also tried to pervert the institution, and that's wrong. Period. Trump won't leave as much of a legislative legacy, simply because no one other than sycophants respects him. Some trust him, some support him in his role of President (and that's fine). But people are having to look harder for policy issues to support him on. Both are damaging to what we see as our country. But maybe, just maybe, our country is changing around us, as it did in the 1960's (when minorities were all of a sudden demanding to have access to the means of democracy), the 1930's (with global depression and the needs of the people exceeding those of the government), or even the 1890's (when the spoils system was pretty much put paid to by the civil service). With the advent of the importance of money/wealth as an arbiter of worth and power (thanks, 80's), as well as the codification of that in the 2000's (thanks, Citizens United), we're changing anyway. Not to mention that whole little internet thingie, and 24-hour-news meaning that we now need far more news to fill our days. We are where we are. We don't want to get "back to where we were," we can't. But we can figure out a new point to aim towards. We're a ship in motion across many dimensions, one of them being time, and we haven't figured out how to navigate time yet. All we can do is try to plan for it, knowing that it's going to pass and keep other things developing. /epontification Wendy P.

Ya, they're almost as crooked as R senators.

Joe Weber: Anti-Troll. LOL!

Trolling, no. Valueless and inarticulate, yes. Two out of three is good, yes?

I don’t think the forum likes cellphone browsers

Please give her our thanks. People in the field are on the front lines and can't back off.

That is an oxymoron.

#lockdown I've already deep cleaned, pull out more clothes for the second time to take to a donation site.........sat down for lunch and thought, "I wonder what's happening on DZ.com." Now I know.

You don't give a 'bat's ass' that the President is a racist asshole? That his base is also a bunch of racist assholes, who love this sort of shit? That he's using this as a distraction to hide how miserably he's managed this situation? That his race-baiting is likely at least partly at fault for the increase in attacks on Asians? Or, is it just 'Fuck them'?