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  3. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    I am truly sorry about your friend, and you are RIGHT about 'camaraderie over a shared interest'. Well, something happened this evening that proves our power system for wilderness camping WORKS. I was upstairs in the home office and heard this loud BOOM about a block away. Then the power went out all over the neighborhood. I took one of my 110 amp hour deep cycle batteries (they weigh a whopping 65 pounds each) and hooked it to a 750-watt AC inverter. Then I ran extension cord and a couple of surge suppressing power strips to both the office and downstairs. In less than ten minutes, I had Gayla back on cable downstairs and our modem/phone system powered up again. Upstairs, I went to the smaller TV and switched on the emergency lights. Our neighbors were peeking out their windows and wondering how come WE were the only ones in the neighborhood with TV sound and lights galore. The power returned a few hours later. If it had gone on beyond that, I would have dragged out another battery to power the fridge. Those deep cycles will keep it running for hours. If it goes beyond that, we have to consider using the generator. It's no big deal, but it proves one thing for sure. I used to be a Boy Scout.
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  5. Razvanescu

    Advance OUT

    I have one and I love it!
  6. dudeman17

    DB Cooper

    Dropzone.com is a skydiving website. I'm a skydiver. I'm going to tell a story about skydivers. This happened some years ago. For background, skydivers, like many adventure sports enthusiasts, like to video stuff. These days, those lightweight tiny Go-Pros are everywhere. But before they came about, back when those handheld camcorders were the thing, if a skydiver wanted to video stuff they had to set up a helmet with a camcorder mounted on the top. There's also a piece of skydiving gear that is known as a Dytter. It's a little thing about the size of a matchbook that you'd also mount on your helmet, and what it does is, you set it for a certain altitude and on the way down it beeps in your ear. You wouldn't want to rely on it for your life, but it's a handy little back-up reminder. Any skydiver would instantly recognize one, pretty much nobody else would. Anyways, where I was living, there was a ski hill not far away. Small place, not too popular, but it had some good steep runs and I could be there in an hour. So one day, like many, I went there by myself to get some runs in. After one particular run, I pull up to the chairlift line and there were these four guys ahead of me, and one of them had a helmet cam on. Didn't recognize any of them, but I says, 'Gee, that's cool, got a camera there to film your friends skiing...' They kinda half-heartedly turned around, 'Yeah, sure..' turned back amongst themselves. 'But', I continue, 'just where on the hill does that Dytter go off?' They all quickly turned around, looked at me with much more interest. 'What? You know what a Dytter is? You jump?'... Turns out they were jumpers from a different dropzone I hadn't been to, but we ended up skiing together for the day. I visited them at their dz, we all became friends. A couple years later, one of them went in. I was on his ash dive, and I cried... Camaraderie over a shared interest. It's fuckin' cool. You guys should try it. Anyway, I'm going to bed. Goin' jumpin' tomorrow...
  7. timinflorida

    Brant Hackney

    Javelin Harness size? pics?
  8. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    What's done? A silly discussion about some pictures that got confusing? Yes, that is done. Search campout comes in June. That is NOT over. Bruce and Eric are still invited as long as slots remain. I told Bruce I would hold one for him if he says 'maybe,' but I couldn't do it for long. I guess Eric gets the same consideration. I know it's a long shot, but maybe for once you should actually support something we try to do in the Cooper case. I don't see any special agenda for us on this one. We're organizing it (with help), paying many of the expenses, and doing some of the food and drink. Unless we find that briefcase or phony chute, we have zip to gain, and we realize actually finding those things is a REAL long shot. Frankly, I'm surprised no one's thought of searching in the immediate area of the placard find before. People have gone down to Tina Bar often enough. They didn't find anything additional there either. But they tried, and that's the main thing. And who knows? We might get lucky. If anything, we should have fun doing it. I think for you, me, or anyone else to argue about it the merits of such a search is pointless. Cooper fans, if they are for REAL Cooper fans, should not only be excited about all this, but give it their full moral support. The podcast by Darren, the YouTube videos etc will only enhance public interest in the case. After so many years you have to pop the cork occasionally to keep peoples' attention.
  9. mrshutter45

    DB Cooper

    It's done.....move on...
  10. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Is there a point here? It is true that except for Darren and Nick, there seemed to be a lack of interest in Cooperland for the search campout. However, I was still concerned about getting the proper permissions, too. As far as your comments, you often mention my name in this or that, and then tell me later it 'has nothing to do with me'. That gets confusing sometimes. Yes, it is true that many of the Oregon folks wanted a Cooper event IN Oregon. Fortunately, I was able to show a few of them that Castle Rock isn't that far from Corvallis, for example. About 120 miles, which is reasonable. Now two of them have said yes who hail from that area. The guy from Puyallup was easy to please. It's only 70 miles for him. But that's in Washington anyway. For me it's about 80 miles to the freeway exit. I'm sure everything will be fine. I gave Darren and Nick the good news. Half the slots are filled already just today. It won't take long to fill the remainder of them, I'm sure. The notice at Quora went out instantly to over 700 people today, all of them are signed up to receive our Quora Cooper updates.
  11. mrshutter45

    DB Cooper

    Actually, you posted that it was cancelled due to the lack of interest in Cooper fans and no one wanting to go. it was unanimous that they wanted to go to Oregon? I seen that post dated just last nite and I said it would be a benefit to the case to get pics from the ground. you replied saying maybe later this year. then Eric posted he was going to do it and it became my fault you wasted time on this today? I mentioned early into this that it really had nothing to do with you. and it had nothing to do with me either. Eric responded to my post. It's DONE....
  12. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Absolutely nothing unless you wanted to attend the search campout in June. It has nothing to do with your plan to hike in there at another time for pictures. That's your gig and we have zip to do with that as well. Campout was initially canceled because we thought we weren't going to get permission to enter Weyerhauser property to do this campout. Then out of nowhere...they approved our request. So now we go in June. That's it, I guess.
  13. EJU

    DB Cooper

    What exactly does any of this have to do with me?
  14. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    HERE. Eric, this isn't our first public campout. We have people register for some very sensible reasons. First, in order to know how many supplies we should bring. We generally do a free BBQ, bottled water, emergency medical and food supplies, and other things. Second, in this particular case, there is a locked gate five miles from the campsite and only Adventure Books of Seattle staff will have a key. Third, it's to make sure no one gets lost. When people are approved by AB Staff to attend these events, we send them a printable PDF containing maps and directions, the place everyone is supposed to meet, as well as our personal cell numbers, the CB channel we run, and other contact information. We also let you know what gear and optional stuff we bring along, and make suggestions on what you might want to bring on your own. In reality, 'registration' means you say you want to attend, tell us who you are, provide an email address so we can reach you with these things. You have to remember sometimes people come to these events from holy hell and gone. On the Eclipse Trip, we had a guy who drove all the way up from San Jose. Without the PDF package, he never would have found us. Also...we are limited to 14 maximum people. Not our rule. Landowners' rule. There is a WordPress up about it now. You can see it HERE.
  15. EJU

    DB Cooper

    WTF is going on here? The thought of me "registering" with anybody is about the most narcissistic thing I've ever read. Robert this has nothing to do with you. I am simply interested in seeing first-hand what the site looks like on the ground. Therefore, I shall visit the site, take some picture and roll. How could you possibly interpret my comments as somehow desiring to go on a canceled camp out? What the hell is this crap about you approving my request to join the trek to the placard site? This is ridiculous. It has nothing to do with anyone but me. The truth is my only agenda. I could care less whether it's you (Robert), 377, or Jesus Christ himself (well maybe I'd care about that) who was organizing some trip. The narcissism is stunning. I'm really trying hard to get along with everyone. That said, it becomes very difficult when I read the commentary about me, from you, that I've read. I mind my own business. Leave people alone. Respect people's opinions. Let people know what I'm thinking (daily), and why. It's obvious you don't know me at all. I harbor no ill will toward anybody. That said, I'm not going to long put up with characterizations that I consider false. Frankly, as a 53 year-old guy, I've got enough "real" baggage to own up to in my life then to have to deal with made-up $#!+ as well. Here's the deal: STOP. Think before your write. I'm down with everyone here, even Derrick and his misguided tactics--he just wants to be heard. Let's extend a little grace from time to time. It's actually very liberating. Cheers!
  16. mrshutter45

    DB Cooper

    I think the dart might have better odds. the only thing the placard shows is it's under the airway 305 was on. and it was found against the wind. the location itself is in question since 7 years passed before it was found. nothing proving it's been there that long. the path isn't exact on the map so that makes things even more difficult. what if it drifted miles over the 7 years, nobody knows. Yes, lots of variables.
  17. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Not enough data. There are many scenarios. I never said we had a good chance of finding anything. But there is no other known starting point that makes sense. Can't just toss a dart into a map and try there. At least the placard location is a known quantity. Besides...let's face facts. We're not just going up there to do a search. There are other things involved here. Darren wants to do a podcast. We're going to do a video on the whole thing in high def widescreen, Dolby surround sound. There will probably be a table discussion. Movies and video games at night. Cooper camaraderie etc. People wouldn't be coming if I just asked them to boonie-crash without having some fun along the way.
  18. mrshutter45

    DB Cooper

    common sense? the chute weighs how many times more than the placard. so how could it end up in the same location. if it tumbled as R99 believes. it floated miles from where the chute or briefcase would land. I doubt he threw them out together. just 5 seconds would be a large distance between the objects.
  19. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Okay, I will accept that. Eric can do what he wants. Long damn walk though. Not that bad, maybe five miles each way once you reach the gate. I don't want to encourage him, though. If he changes his mind about hiking in for pictures and wants to help out with the search weekend, the podcast, the video, the actual search itself, the apps will be online later tonight. There is no way for you (or I) to tell if there is any additional evidence in the area. Cooper could have tossed out the briefcase and phony chute before, after, or at the same time the placard ended up out the back of the jetliner. No one can be sure. Without anything else to go on, searching in the area the placard was found makes the best sense to me. I figure with at least three teams we might be able to cover one-half of a square mile around, and no more. In other words, maybe a quarter mile in all directions. It ain't much...but it's all we got.
  20. mrshutter45

    DB Cooper

    Robert, you just said two comments ago that we were done. I'm playing no games. I read your post of cancellation. then I posted that pics would be good to have from the ground. Eric pops on and says he's going there. he "encouraged" himself.
  21. TheChosenOne

    DB Cooper

    If it ain’t Boeing, I ain’t going
  22. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Come on...encouraging him to break the law, and going on an assumption the placard location was just on the other side of the gate? It's miles down the road to the placard site from that gate. Look...I'll consider Eric if he truly wants to go on the search campout. But no more games please. This is a serious project with some expenses, and so far...being attended by serious people. I canceled because I thought Weyerhauser was rejecting my permission request. Okay, so they didn't, and in fact were very encouraging. So I am running with that. The Oregon trip is out. The placard area search is ON. That's the bottom line.
  23. mrshutter45

    DB Cooper

    I wasted nobodies time. Eric brought this up, not me. you cancelled the thing. that's what made me post. don't blame it on me pal. "This trip has been CANCELLED, mostly due to lack of interest from Cooper fans"
  24. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    You wasted a lot of my time today. This is the result: I've decided that even if Eric applies to go on the search campout, I will most likely say no. I already see bad signs here. Confidence in him is NOT high. He would have to convince me why he deserves to go after the two of you jacked me around today. Right now, my feeling is everyone would be better off if he stays home. Since we started this discussion, two more inquiries have come in about possibly going along. It won't take long to fill our maximum 14 slots, which is all we are allowed. EDIT: I will do an updated WordPress article on the search and how to attend, tonight sometime. I will also make adjustments to the Meetup page at the main AB site. The WordPress will be cross-posted to Quora at the same time. We will probably fill the remaining slots within a week. Just saying. Anyone wanting to go along from Cooperland better get serious. I am also favoring anyone who owns a metal detector. We only have two right now, but I plan to get the third one fixed.
  25. mrshutter45

    DB Cooper

    Good, so we are done... Thanks again for all your concern
  26. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Look...see my previous post. No, you don't just jump out and walk a couple of hundred feet. The access gate to the area where the placard is located is miles away. You would have to park there and walk in a few miles. I already said I didn't care since you now told me he plans to do this BEFORE our search event. That is no concern of mine. I gave my best advice, but he's a grown man.
  27. mrshutter45

    DB Cooper

    ???????????you drive to the location. I see plenty of spots to park. it's an open road, correct. park nearby. jump out walk a couple hundred feet into the woods. take some photo's and leave? It's your scheduled search. not Eric's? you are trying to find evidence. it's different. even though, the placard weighs an ounce and the chute and briefcase would be miles away if they were even tossed at the same time, or the placard came off from lying on the stairs. nothing would be found around the placard if that's it's original location....
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