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Who will win the 2020 election?

Trump or Biden?   

43 members have voted

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  1. 1. Who do you think will win the election 2020? Not who you want to win, but the one you think will win.

    • Trump
      17
    • Biden
      25
    • Election?
      1
  2. 2. Who do you want to win the election 2020

    • Trump
      11
    • Biden
      31
    • Election?
      1

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  • Poll closed on 11/03/2020 at 09:20 AM

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12 minutes ago, ryoder said:

You need to consider the source, but if true, this is hilarious!

Trump attorney Lin Wood tells Republican supporters NOT to back GOP candidates in the Georgia runoff election because they've 'failed' to help the President's fight to overturn the election

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8976193/Trump-attorney-Lin-Wood-says-Republicans-withhold-votes-Georgia-primary.html

What, this Lin Wood?

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1 hour ago, ryoder said:

You need to consider the source, but if true, this is hilarious!

Trump attorney Lin Wood tells Republican supporters NOT to back GOP candidates in the Georgia runoff election because they've 'failed' to help the President's fight to overturn the election

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8976193/Trump-attorney-Lin-Wood-says-Republicans-withhold-votes-Georgia-primary.html

Short term “what’s in it for me today” thinking at its finest 

Wendy P. 

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50 minutes ago, ryoder said:

From the Dept of You-Can't-Make-This-Shit-Up:

https://defendingtherepublic.org/

 

36 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Needs a DNS attack.

Oh come on. Its classic free enterprise. Create a product and someone will buy it

2.Thinking big allows you to be a lot more successful without doing a lot more work.

3. Being bold, controversial and confrontational will force people to pay attention to you.

Above from trump's book "The Art of F*#king the other guy over for every cent the pigeon has" It was in his trump University required texts.

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3 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

The drama in Michigan is now over. Georgia is all but settled. PA seems to be going straight. Wisconsin still has a shitshow going on, but will end up on the right side of history as well. I gotta hand it to you Americans, you put on a hell of a show.

We aim to please, take our cruise missiles for example. Oh, sorry, you already do! GSA just approved the transition.Trump announced that he approves although he still intends to win. In other news (a bit in the breeze still) apparently Trump in already renovating his residence in Mar-a-Lago. That should be interesting because his approval specifically precludes his having a personal residence there. I reckon Rudy will sort that out.

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LOL!

Boston Globe: What if Trump won’t leave the White House? A hostage negotiator, an animal-control officer, and a toddler whisperer have advice

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/11/23/nation/what-if-trump-wont-leave-white-house-hostage-negotiator-an-animal-control-officer-toddler-whisperer-have-advice/

(Disable Javascript to kill the paywall)

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1 hour ago, ryoder said:

The early bird gets the domain name: https://donaldjtrump2024.com/

ROTFLMAO!!!

 

Hi Robert,

Maybe he will become the Harold Stassen of the 21st century.

'his name became most identified with his status as a perennial candidate.'

Harold Stassen - Wikipedia

'We have to turn the election over,” Trump said from the Oval Office'

 'This was an election that we won easily,” he said. “We won it by a lot.'

Biden seeks unity as Trump stokes fading embers of campaign (apnews.com)

If you're going to dream, dream bigly.

Jerry Baumchen

 

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Why Did So Many Americans Vote for Trump?.   NYT editorial so you'll have to disable javascript to pass paywall.

"Mr. Trump has a knack for leveraging the animosities of polarized partisanship to cleave his supporters from sources of credible information and inflame them with vilifying lies. This time, it wasn’t enough to save his bacon, which suggests that polarization hasn’t completely wrecked our democracy’s capacity for self-correction: Sweeping a medium-size city’s worth of dead Americans under the rug turned out to be too tall an order.

However, Mr. Trump’s relentless campaign to goose the economy by cutting taxes, running up enormous deficits and debt, and hectoring the Fed into not raising rates was working for millions of Americans. We tend to notice when we’re personally more prosperous than we were a few years before."

Above seems to summarize it best but its worth the effort to read. It doesn't address the issues that will face Biden but the lack of fact in the right wing discourse.

For Biden the need to wind down what was $3 trillion in stimulus via debt this year alone, the GOP/McConnell senate. All combine to create a hurricane of headwinds.

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Federal appeals court panel rejects Trump request to block certification of Pennsylvania’s election results

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-appeals-court-rejects-trump-request-for-emergency-injunction-to-overturn-certification-of-pennsylvanias-election-results/2020/11/27/556540ba-30d7-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html

 

The Third Circuit Court of Appeals said in a scathing 21-page opinion that the Trump campaign’s challenge of a U.S. District Court’s decision had “no merit.”

“Voters, not lawyers, choose the President. Ballots, not briefs, decide elections,” the court said.

The opinion was written by Judge Stephanos Bibas, who was appointed to the court by Trump. Bibas was joined by two other Republican-appointed judges in a unanimous 3-0 panel.

“Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” Bibas wrote.

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1 hour ago, kallend said:

Federal appeals court panel rejects Trump request to block certification of Pennsylvania’s election results

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-appeals-court-rejects-trump-request-for-emergency-injunction-to-overturn-certification-of-pennsylvanias-election-results/2020/11/27/556540ba-30d7-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html

 

The Third Circuit Court of Appeals said in a scathing 21-page opinion that the Trump campaign’s challenge of a U.S. District Court’s decision had “no merit.”

“Voters, not lawyers, choose the President. Ballots, not briefs, decide elections,” the court said.

The opinion was written by Judge Stephanos Bibas, who was appointed to the court by Trump. Bibas was joined by two other Republican-appointed judges in a unanimous 3-0 panel.

“Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” Bibas wrote.

SHTF?

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2 hours ago, kallend said:

And meanwhile, in Wisconsin:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/28/joe-biden-gains-votes-in-wisconsin-county-after-trump-ordered-recount

It cost the Trump campaign $3Million to give Biden more votes.

Well if that's not suspicious I don't know what is. I demand a re-recount!

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"The path for President Trump to obtain enough votes in the electoral college to win re-election has now been revealed. The effort hinges on the public exposure of election fraud in hearings that began last Wednesday in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and continue next week in Arizona on Monday and Michigan on Tuesday.

Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani have made clear their strategy for getting Donald Trump re-elected. They intend to present evidence of widespread election fraud that calls into question the validity of the popular vote in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. Although the public spotlight is currently focused on lawsuits that may prove in court claims about election fraud, it’s worth remembering that Presidents are not elected by the courts. In December, state legislatures will choose electors who will vote in the electoral college on December 14th. The vote of the electoral college will determine the next President."  ~Dave Hayes, 27 Nov 2020

Now we wait and see how this plays out. The fat lady is about to grace the stage.

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7 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

"The path for President Trump to obtain enough votes in the electoral college to win re-election has now been revealed. The effort hinges on the public exposure of election fraud in hearings that began last Wednesday in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and continue next week in Arizona on Monday and Michigan on Tuesday.

Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani have made clear their strategy for getting Donald Trump re-elected. They intend to present evidence of widespread election fraud that calls into question the validity of the popular vote in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. Although the public spotlight is currently focused on lawsuits that may prove in court claims about election fraud, it’s worth remembering that Presidents are not elected by the courts. In December, state legislatures will choose electors who will vote in the electoral college on December 14th. The vote of the electoral college will determine the next President."  ~Dave Hayes, 27 Nov 2020

Now we wait and see how this plays out. The fat lady is about to grace the stage.

Did you know that your number of "likes", 31, is the exact number of court cases Trumps team of loonies has lost in humiliating fashion? Coincidence? Q? Makes you wonder.

Edited by JoeWeber

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18 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

"The path for President Trump to obtain enough votes in the electoral college to win re-election has now been revealed. The effort hinges on the public exposure of election fraud in hearings that began last Wednesday in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and continue next week in Arizona on Monday and Michigan on Tuesday.

Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani have made clear their strategy for getting Donald Trump re-elected. They intend to present evidence of widespread election fraud that calls into question the validity of the popular vote in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. Although the public spotlight is currently focused on lawsuits that may prove in court claims about election fraud, it’s worth remembering that Presidents are not elected by the courts. In December, state legislatures will choose electors who will vote in the electoral college on December 14th. The vote of the electoral college will determine the next President."  ~Dave Hayes, 27 Nov 2020

Now we wait and see how this plays out. The fat lady is about to grace the stage.

So in other words, they tried elections (which have been considered fair in the past -- what changed?), they tried the courts (fairly conservative in those states). Now the last gasp is asking the sometimes-gerrymandered state legislatures to vote their political affiliation rather than the stated voice of the people they represent.

Look into the coup in Wilmington, DE sometime -- maybe that's what the Qbots can aspire to next 9_9

Wendy P.

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1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

"The path for President Trump to obtain enough votes in the electoral college to win re-election has now been revealed. The effort hinges on the public exposure of election fraud in hearings that began last Wednesday in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and continue next week in Arizona on Monday and Michigan on Tuesday.

Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani have made clear their strategy for getting Donald Trump re-elected. They intend to present evidence of widespread election fraud that calls into question the validity of the popular vote in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. Although the public spotlight is currently focused on lawsuits that may prove in court claims about election fraud, it’s worth remembering that Presidents are not elected by the courts. In December, state legislatures will choose electors who will vote in the electoral college on December 14th. The vote of the electoral college will determine the next President."  ~Dave Hayes, 27 Nov 2020

Now we wait and see how this plays out. The fat lady is about to grace the stage.

Setting aside your hopes and prayers for just a minute, thus far, Trump's lawyers have yet to offer a scintilla of evidence of any fraud whatsoever. 

Trump lost fair and square, Ron. There is no evidence otherwise. Judge after judge has rejected Trump's false and unsubstantiated claims of widespread fraud. That's reality. 

In the absence of any fraud found, much less widespread fraud affecting millions of votes, do you really want the will of American voters rejected and overturned so as to reinstall an illegitimate Trump as President? No fraud equals illegitimate. You get that, right?

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