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Who will win the 2020 election?

Trump or Biden?   

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  1. 1. Who do you think will win the election 2020? Not who you want to win, but the one you think will win.

    • Trump
      17
    • Biden
      25
    • Election?
      1
  2. 2. Who do you want to win the election 2020

    • Trump
      11
    • Biden
      31
    • Election?
      1

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  • Poll closed on 11/03/2020 at 09:20 AM

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2 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Moderate Republican? John Bolton? I love your use of irony here!

I assure you, my tongue was firmly in cheek. But in these days of the GOP's rush to support an autocrat, Bolton has become a moderate by comparison, w/o even changing his principles.

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2 minutes ago, ryoder said:

I assure you, my tongue was firmly in cheek. But in these days of the GOP's rush to support an autocrat, Bolton has become a moderate by comparison, w/o even changing his principles.

Yes, he is in no way a moderate. He just hates Trump like I'm sure many GOP officials do. But he has never been elected and he is never going to stand for election. Therefore he has no reason to fear Trump. It's easy to be brave when you have nothing to lose.

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Even his lawyers - the lawyers he is paying to file these ridiculous lawsuits - don't think he can win any more.

 

(Bloomberg) -- A law firm representing the Trump campaign in its challenges to the Pennsylvania election results gave notice that it’s withdrawing from one of the cases.

Lawyers with Porter Wright Morris & Arthur LLP submitted a filing late Thursday stating they were withdrawing as counsel in a federal suit seeking to block Pennsylvania from certifying its vote. No reason was given. In a statement issued Friday, the firm confirmed the filing but did not say why it was exiting the case.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-law-firm-withdraws-from-pennsylvania-election-case/ar-BB1aZ8yx?li=BBnb7Kz&fbclid=IwAR2Q0k7SitEKeUK-Zwiw2JvvmFNB-8HZ0MDFmpYJ9HOsO6VSuym7VK6fX1Y

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24 minutes ago, billvon said:

No reason was given. In a statement issued Friday, the firm confirmed the filing but did not say why it was exiting the case.

 

6 minutes ago, kallend said:

Even rats have standards.

The reason has nothing to do with standards. The lawyers don't want to work for free. They want clients who pay the bills.

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25 minutes ago, billvon said:

Even his lawyers - the lawyers he is paying to file these ridiculous lawsuits - don't think he can win any more.

 

(Bloomberg) -- A law firm representing the Trump campaign in its challenges to the Pennsylvania election results gave notice that it’s withdrawing from one of the cases.

Lawyers with Porter Wright Morris & Arthur LLP submitted a filing late Thursday stating they were withdrawing as counsel in a federal suit seeking to block Pennsylvania from certifying its vote. No reason was given. In a statement issued Friday, the firm confirmed the filing but did not say why it was exiting the case.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-law-firm-withdraws-from-pennsylvania-election-case/ar-BB1aZ8yx?li=BBnb7Kz&fbclid=IwAR2Q0k7SitEKeUK-Zwiw2JvvmFNB-8HZ0MDFmpYJ9HOsO6VSuym7VK6fX1Y

 

7 minutes ago, kallend said:

Even rats have standards.

Rats likely found out trump didn't like to pay.

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2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

 

The reason has nothing to do with standards. The lawyers don't want to work for free. They want clients who pay the bills.

Bingo.

It's coming out that the fine print in the "Trump Election Defense Fund" pleas say that a large percentage will go to pay off the campaign's debts.
Some of it will go straight into Trump's pockets.

https://apnews.com/article/money-donald-trump-election-defense-flow-d533491164bd4cae7ac47392ca740c7d

I'm going to guess the lawyers are starting to realize that they stand a pretty good chance of ending up like so many of the people that do business with Trump...

Screwed.

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26 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Bingo.

It's coming out that the fine print in the "Trump Election Defense Fund" pleas say that a large percentage will go to pay off the campaign's debts.
Some of it will go straight into Trump's pockets.

https://apnews.com/article/money-donald-trump-election-defense-flow-d533491164bd4cae7ac47392ca740c7d

I'm going to guess the lawyers are starting to realize that they stand a pretty good chance of ending up like so many of the people that do business with Trump...

Screwed.

Hi Joe,

'The President’s team is undeterred and will move forward with rock-solid attorneys'

'Another law firm bails out on Trump campaign'

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/13/law-firm-drops-trump-campaign-436418

Looks like the word is out that Trump does not pay his bills.

IMO, because of this:  ' the withdrawal requires Brann’s approval'

it seems as though he may have trouble even finding a firm that will talk to him.

It would be so simple to just concede and move on; not his style, though.

Jerry Baumchen

 

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2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

'The President’s team is undeterred and will move forward with rock-solid attorneys'

'Another law firm bails out on Trump campaign'

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/13/law-firm-drops-trump-campaign-436418

Looks like the word is out that Trump does not pay his bills.

IMO, because of this:  ' the withdrawal requires Brann’s approval'

it seems as though he may have trouble even finding a firm that will talk to him.

It would be so simple to just concede and move on; not his style, though.

Jerry Baumchen

 

Some lawyers are honest I know:D. Another factor is they don't want to be associated with abuse of the system.

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2 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Some lawyers are honest I know:D. Another factor is they don't want to be associated with abuse of the system.

Two comments. First, I've hired a lot of lawyers with a variety of practice specialties over the years and paid out a boatload of money for the privilege. Some were better than others, mostly on a raw brain power basis, but not a one was crooked or seriously unethical. Second, closing the "Who will win the 2020 Election" poll was not only uncalled for it was being flat out rude to Trump True Believers, all conspiracy theorists, and others who just tend to run a little late. Not nice.

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5 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

'The President’s team is undeterred and will move forward with rock-solid attorneys'

'Another law firm bails out on Trump campaign'

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/13/law-firm-drops-trump-campaign-436418

Looks like the word is out that Trump does not pay his bills.

IMO, because of this:  ' the withdrawal requires Brann’s approval'

it seems as though he may have trouble even finding a firm that will talk to him.

It would be so simple to just concede and move on; not his style, though.

Jerry Baumchen

 

He needs to give Lionel Hutz a call and get him on the job!!!

(Donny probably thinks he's real)

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28 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Two comments. First, I've hired a lot of lawyers with a variety of practice specialties over the years and paid out a boatload of money for the privilege. Some were better than others, mostly on a raw brain power basis, but not a one was crooked or seriously unethical. Second, closing the "Who will win the 2020 Election" poll was not only uncalled for it was being flat out rude to Trump True Believers, all conspiracy theorists, and others who just tend to run a little late. Not nice.

Hi Joe,

Re:  'not a one was . . . seriously unethical'

You've never hired a divorce attorney.  Ambulance chasers are next to God compared to them.

Jerry Baumchen

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1 minute ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

Re:  'not a one was . . . seriously unethical'

You've never hired a divorce attorney.  Ambulance chasers are next to God compared to them.

Jerry Baumchen

Well, you can only nudge so far with an officer of the court, Jerry. To date, "not seriously unethical" is the best I've been able to do. 

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22 minutes ago, kallend said:

The Honest Lawyer pub, South Gate, King's Lynn, Norfolk.  My wife was from King's Lynn.
 

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Hi John,

Been to quite a number of unremembered named pubs in Kings Lynn.  A very long time ago.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  I was stationed at RAF Sculthorpe.

 

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I can only take about two minutes of Faux News at a time. It's laughable how they deny reality sometimes, and do it with a straight face. Sometimes I wonder if at least SOME of their commentators look at themselves in the morning mirror and wish they had a job with a legitimate news organization, instead of a shill news service based on lies. Call me crazy, but it seems to me that in order to go on camera at Faux, at least if you are a woman, you must be blonde and coiffed by Hollywood makeup and hair masters. I dunno...

Anyway, if they start running out of fake journalists, they could always try recruiting from another source. B)

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The Arizona Secretary of State, Katie Hobbs, gets paid $70,000 a year. I sent her a message today saying that the mayor of MY town, Auburn, Washington...is paid $180,000 a year running a city of 75,000 people...and that Arizona should pay her at least THAT much. Especially with everything she had to deal with this election. :thumbup:

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