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Plans to kidnap Whitmer, overthrow government spoiled, officials say

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"Federal agents said Thursday they thwarted a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer that included visits to her home in northern Michigan and training with explosive devices.

The alleged plot involved conspirators who met during a Second Amendment rally at the Capitol in Lansing in June and reached out to members of a Michigan militia known as the Wolverine Watchmen for reinforcements, according to state and federal officials."

Once again radical right wing extremist militias hide behind the 2nd amendment to plot against law and order. Q and all the other right wing groups plot and scheme with the protection of trump.

"The court filing alleges the conspirators twice conducted surveillance at Whitmer's personal vacation home in northern Michigan and discussed kidnapping her to a "secure location" in Wisconsin to stand "trial" for treason prior to the Nov. 3 election.

"Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit. "The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message."

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2 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

"Federal agents said Thursday they thwarted a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer that included visits to her home in northern Michigan and training with explosive devices.

The alleged plot involved conspirators who met during a Second Amendment rally at the Capitol in Lansing in June and reached out to members of a Michigan militia known as the Wolverine Watchmen for reinforcements, according to state and federal officials."

Once again radical right wing extremist militias hide behind the 2nd amendment to plot against law and order. Q and all the other right wing groups plot and scheme with the protection of trump.

"The court filing alleges the conspirators twice conducted surveillance at Whitmer's personal vacation home in northern Michigan and discussed kidnapping her to a "secure location" in Wisconsin to stand "trial" for treason prior to the Nov. 3 election.

"Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit. "The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message."

It’s up to you and your White Mane Militia now, Ron. Good luck and Godspeed.

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The article I read this morning also said they were planning to shoot cops and start a civil war.  Wait, what?  I thought the extreme Trump people were all about law and order and Blue Lives Matter.  How does this idea make any sense?  

I dare one Republican to try to justify these jokers. 

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7 minutes ago, TriGirl said:

The article I read this morning also said they were planning to shoot cops and start a civil war.  Wait, what?  I thought the extreme Trump people were all about law and order and Blue Lives Matter.  How does this idea make any sense?  

It's the Boogaloo, the plan for a new civil war that will replace the current deep state with patriots who support guns, whites, national pride, patriotism, guns, strong leaders, Christian morality and guns.  There are a few variants; the common thread are guns and civil war.

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I dare one Republican to try to justify these jokers. 

A few people here have made valiant attempts at it.

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7 hours ago, TriGirl said:

The article I read this morning also said they were planning to shoot cops and start a civil war.  Wait, what?  I thought the extreme Trump people were all about law and order and Blue Lives Matter.  How does this idea make any sense?  

I dare one Republican to try to justify these jokers. 

 

7 hours ago, billvon said:

It's the Boogaloo, the plan for a new civil war that will replace the current deep state with patriots who support guns, whites, national pride, patriotism, guns, strong leaders, Christian morality and guns.  There are a few variants; the common thread are guns and civil war.

A few people here have made SAD AND ILL CONCEIVED attempts at it.

FIFY. Nothing about the trump/GOP coalition seem to have common sense as a core starting point anymore. trump's actions and statements in the last 3-4 days seem to indicate powerful steroids at work on his conscious. No republicans dare voice opposition to his baiting and priming of white supremacists. Or his refusal to commit to a recognition of the finality of a democratic ballot outcome.

Does anyone here even imagine that Donald trump will suddenly do a 180 after the election and refuse to play the cards he has hidden in his pockets? Refuse to deploy his followers who love guns and hate government. Hate those who trump labels as "monsters", "socialists", "communists", etc.

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17 hours ago, Remster said:

Why are we calling these terrorists a militia?

I'm not sure that 'terrorist' is correct.

I think they are 'insurgents'. Yes, a bit pedantic.

In any case, this is really idiotic.

Apparently their plan was to kidnap the governor and take over the Capitol building. 
Then they'd be in charge.

 

What the hell was their endgame?

I'm guessing that they expected the 'silent majority' to rise up and support them.

You know, like Bush & Cheney expected to happen in Iraq in 03.


Did they not realize that there's a succession plan?
Did they think that the Capitol building has 'magical powers' and whoever controls is 'in charge'?
Did they not think that the cops would fight back?
Did they think that Trump would tell the FBI to 'step back and stand by'?

Currently 13 people have been charged.
Apparently they started the plot back in August, and the FBI had informants in on it from the start.

Somehow I'm reminded of the old show "Taxi" (anyone else remember that?)

There was an episode where Latka (Andy Kaufman) was being recruited to join the 'resistance' back in his own country. He was all pumped up to 'free his homeland' until he finds out how many are in the 'resistance army'
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When Baschi shows up with about a dozen other soldiers, and is asked to draw a diagram of their country, showing where they will be, Latka realizes that the dozen are the ONLY Revolutionaries, against all the government troops. Latka's reply, "You can kiss my Yaktibah, I'm going to watch the Late Show."

 

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54 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:


Somehow I'm reminded of the old show "Taxi" (anyone else remember that?)

There was an episode where Latka (Andy Kaufman) was being recruited to join the 'resistance' back in his own country. He was all pumped up to 'free his homeland' until he finds out how many are in the 'resistance army'
IMDB:

 

An American security contractor just tried to invade Venezuela with pretty much the exact same plan.

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23 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

"Federal agents said Thursday they thwarted a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer that included visits to her home in northern Michigan and training with explosive devices.

The alleged plot involved conspirators who met during a Second Amendment rally at the Capitol in Lansing in June and reached out to members of a Michigan militia known as the Wolverine Watchmen for reinforcements, according to state and federal officials."

Once again radical right wing extremist militias hide behind the 2nd amendment to plot against law and order. Q and all the other right wing groups plot and scheme with the protection of trump.

"The court filing alleges the conspirators twice conducted surveillance at Whitmer's personal vacation home in northern Michigan and discussed kidnapping her to a "secure location" in Wisconsin to stand "trial" for treason prior to the Nov. 3 election.

"Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit. "The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message."

The Talibanjo strike again.

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2 hours ago, piisfish said:

Dang, your country seems pretty scary. 

“Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt keeps white men more free”. I trust you're not that familiar with LE in Michigan. There the law lets militia groups run around the legislature armed with AR-15s. It allows better planning if "citizens arrests" need to take place. Yah know, get familiar with all the doors, hallways, points of ingress and egress.

Trump hasn't said a word about his entire affair. He is likely just too happy about how his men are "standing by" for him.

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43 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

“Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt keeps white men more free”. I trust you're not that familiar with LE in Michigan. There the law lets militia groups run around the legislature armed with AR-15s. It allows better planning if "citizens arrests" need to take place. Yah know, get familiar with all the doors, hallways, points of ingress and egress.

Trump hasn't said a word about his entire affair. He is likely just too happy about how his men are "standing by" for him.

Yup. Legal to bring guns into the legislature. Illegal to bring signs into the legislature.

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5 hours ago, piisfish said:

Dang, your country seems pretty scary. 

Yup. I've been scared of that orange idiot since Nov 9, 2016. 

11 minutes ago, obelixtim said:

How do people like this guy keep their job? He's an enabler.

County Sheriff is an elected position. 
Ya gotta remember that there's as much racism, bigotry & hatred 'up north' as there is anywhere. Rural Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, ect is just as bad as anywhere in the south.
It's just not as apparent because there aren't very many non-whites outside the urban areas.

Fun fact: One of the accused was pardoned last year by the governor of Delaware. He had been convicted of possession of a gun during a felony & receiving stolen property.

 

Got it from a story on a local TV station website:
https://www.wbay.com/2020/10/09/ag-michigan-governor-family-were-moved-as-plotters-tracked/?fbclid=IwAR0G1s_TX9zJba6j6ozAYXtYqUfewzm2mk8ZbPkFqKMZ5iry8qdjTehN2J4

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