Impeach the MotherF%@KER!

[DJL 232]

45 minutes ago, billvon said:

Uh oh!  Mitt has a different opinion than Trump supporters - CRUCIFY HIM!

The issue is that he has a different opinion than anyone who could sway a majority.

[jakee 1,254]

10 minutes ago, DJL said:

The issue is that he has a different opinion than anyone who could sway a majority.

He only needs to sway 3, and apparently 2 are already wavering. 

[turtlespeed 212]

I SOOOOOOO much wish that Mitt was the President vs Trump.

(Since we are on a first name basis, and all.)

[airdvr 197]

Mitt is a RINO...stepped into the void left by McCain.  Not surprising...

[DJL 232]

4 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Mitt is a RINO...stepped into the void left by McCain.  Not surprising...

You know that name is interesting because the reason I left the Republican party was partly because it was being taken over by the Tea Party.  That takeover is now complete and the Conservatives who I looked up to my entire life like George Bush Senior, McCain, Reagan, Bob Dole, Lamar Alexander, Fred Thompson, John Kasich, and Mitt Romney are now supposedly the RINOs.  People like Bloomberg even left the Republican party and unsurprisingly they did it around the time that I did.

So here you are taking the side of someone (Trump) who has ignored nearly every tenet of Classic Conservative ideals over those who have maintained them through the years.

[SkyDekker 1,122]

43 minutes ago, airdvr said:

stepped into the void left by McCain.

That was Jon Kyle, who then left. He was replaced by a Republican who actually lost the election.

That Republican then went on to object to the impeachment because she argued it would be against the will of the people as determined by vote.

The irony of course completely lost on her and every other Republican.

[kallend 1,623]

48 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Mitt is a RINO...stepped into the void left by McCain.  Not surprising...

As in a decent human being with ethical principles who didn’t cheat and lie for personal gain. 

[JoeWeber 2,299]

16 hours ago, Coreece said:

More than there?  What does that mean?  I always thought that something is either there or it isn't.  Is this a four-dimensional concept like a tesseract?  Where is this 4th dimension to find such evidence - it sounds complex, would we be able to experience it, to understand it?

 

 

(sorry, I just couldn't help myself)

Me neither: The post by Normiss had 47 words and 254 characters, not the 140 maximum in your accusation. Now say you are sorry.

[billvon 2,400]

55 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Mitt is a RINO...stepped into the void left by McCain.  Not surprising...

Yep.  Of course, by today's standards Ronald Reagan would be a RINO, if not a socialist.

[normiss 622]

Not enough there, here.

By all means though, please continue to mock me.

I expect to be warned again of making attacks on others for simply replying defensively.

That's all the words from me now, here. So there.

[ryoder 1,384]

55 minutes ago, billvon said:

Yep.  Of course, by today's standards Ronald Reagan would be a RINO, if not a socialist.

He signed a bill giving amnesty to illegal immigrants, instead of separating families and locking kids in cages like a good Christian would do. Damned RINO!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

[Coreece 190]

3 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

The post by Normiss had 47 words and 254 characters, not the 140 maximum in your accusation. Now say you are sorry.

Sorry, I forgot that the maximum number of characters needed to express oneself efficiently in this exceedingly complicated digital landscape was upgraded to 280 characters several years ago.

Unfortunately tho, it does leave room for for more error.

 

Proverbs 10:19 (English Stand Version) -  When words are many, transgression is not lacking, but whoever restrains his lips is prudent. 

Proverbs 10:19 (Easy to Read Version) - A person who talks too much gets into trouble. A wise person learns to be quiet.

 

(. . .and yes, I still have yet to grasp that bit of wisdom.)

[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

22 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

I'm wondering if the knives are coming out.

Re:  'Mitt makes his move'

 

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/27/romney-trial-impeachment-senate-trump-107171

It will be interesting to see how far it goes.

Jerry Baumchen

Hi folks,

And, on the other hand:  'Trio of Dem senators considering vote to acquit Trump'

Re-election is a driving force.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/28/trio-democratic-senators-consider-acquit-trump-108130

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  While I try to avoid predictions; I think this one ends with a single vote, resulting in an acquittal and nothing more than that.

 

[Channman 2]

16 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

And, on the other hand:  'Trio of Dem senators considering vote to acquit Trump'

Re-election is a driving force.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/28/trio-democratic-senators-consider-acquit-trump-108130

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  While I try to avoid predictions; I think this one ends with a single vote, resulting in an acquittal and nothing more than that.

 

YEA!!! another WIN!!!  

On another note: USMCA is yet another WIN!  Just to much a winning going on around here!

[turtlespeed 212]

12 minutes ago, Channman said:

YEA!!! another WIN!!!  

On another note: USMCA is yet another WIN!  Just to much a winning going on around here!

YEA!!! LSU won too!!!

[normiss 622]

21 minutes ago, Channman said:

YEA!!! another WIN!!!  

On another note: USMCA is yet another WIN!  Just to much a winning going on around here!

NAFTA Adjusted Program?

Sure, the basic changes will be hard to meet though.

[Channman 2]

10 minutes ago, normiss said:

NAFTA Adjusted Program?

Sure, the basic changes will be hard to meet though.

So far the markets seem to like it.

[mbohu 77]

Sorry, if I'm repeating something that already has been said here. Haven't had the time to do more than skip through some posts in this thread, but:

It looks like it's happened: The argument switched from "He didn't do it, it was perfect" to: "He did it, but it wasn't a crime." @billvon, you must be so proud of your psychic abilities!

NPR came on when I switched my car on this morning, and I heard some guy (clearly from the republican defense team--or a republican senator?) who at first blush, I thought, actually sounded quite intelligent and less bloviating than what I usually hear...so I kept the radio on for a few minutes, rather than immediately switching to my Chillout/Techno playlist.

Here is how his argument went: "Clearly, a president always thinks that his own election is in the public interest. Otherwise he wouldn't run. THEREFORE: When he pressures a foreign government to dig up dirt on his own opponent, so he has a better chance of winning the next election, this cannot be seen as a 'quid pro quo' in the sense that would be illegal or questionable, because he is clearly doing it in the public interest. Pressuring Ukraine to help his own re-election is not only perfectly legal, but (at least in the president's mind) in the public interest."

What a genius argument! I had to stop my car to applaud!

I am now planning a bank robbery. Since I clearly believe that I am a great guy and contribute much to this world, and could contribute so much more if I had more money (think of all the additional people who will get to jump out of airplanes with me, and have their lives enriched), it is quite clearly in the public interest that I should have more money--therefore it won't be a crime at all! It will be a public sservice! Probably should get paid for it!

Man, this is great!
I wonder if they were rolling on the floor laughing, when they came up with this argument in their preparation for the trial.

[kallend 1,623]

Witnesses?  We don’t need no steenkin’ witnesses.  Our minds are made up.

Edited January 30, 2020 by kallend

[Channman 2]

17 hours ago, kallend said:

Witnesses?  We don’t need no steenkin’ witnesses.  Our minds are made up.

Well I can think of one I would like to hear from..."Eric Ciaramella" and his involvement with Adam Shit or however you spell the dudes last name, and those in his office.  Yea that would be a good start, if we are going to have steenkin witnesses.  Nothing better than the dude who crapped in his Pajama Pants and pulled this turd out of his ass.  Eric Ciaramella the worlds worst best kept secret.

Edited January 30, 2020 by Channman

[turtlespeed 212]

48 minutes ago, Channman said:

Well I can think of one I would like to hear from..."Eric Ciaramella" and his involvement with Adam Shit or however you spell the dudes last name, and those in his office.  Yea that would be a good start, if we are going to have steenkin witnesses.  Nothing better than the dude who crapped in his Pajama Pants and pulled this turd out of his ass.  Eric Ciaramella the worlds worst best kept secret.

Is that the guy that Rand Paul keeps wanting to testify?

[mbohu 77]

On 1/29/2020 at 12:39 PM, mbohu said:

Here is how his argument went: "Clearly, a president always thinks that his own election is in the public interest. Otherwise he wouldn't run. THEREFORE: When he pressures a foreign government to dig up dirt on his own opponent, so he has a better chance of winning the next election, this cannot be seen as a 'quid pro quo' in the sense that would be illegal or questionable, because he is clearly doing it in the public interest. Pressuring Ukraine to help his own re-election is not only perfectly legal, but (at least in the president's mind) in the public interest."

I know...quoting yourself must be bad form, but it looks like someone else noticed the same argument as I did: 

(for those on the pro-trump side who probably can't stand to watch more than 3 seconds of Colbert, I cut the link straight to Trump's Lawyer's argument--it's really worth watching that kind of a mind-bender!) 

[normiss 622]

On 1/29/2020 at 2:13 PM, Channman said:

So far the markets seem to like it.

The U.S. economy grew 2.3% in 2019. That's worse than Trump inherited. It's worse than half the years George W. Bush was President. It's less than half the best growth under Clinton.

[SkyDekker 1,122]

2 hours ago, normiss said:

The U.S. economy grew 2.3% in 2019. That's worse than Trump inherited. It's worse than half the years George W. Bush was President. It's less than half the best growth under Clinton.

Yes, but today we are measuring by stock market. When that recession hits, we will blame it on somebody else and start measuring something else. What we definitely don't want is having to admit being wrong, or any sort of consistency.

[normiss 622]

28 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Yes, but today we are measuring by stock market. When that recession hits, we will blame it on somebody else and start measuring something else. What we definitely don't want is having to admit being wrong, or any sort of consistency.

I'm sure there are zero stock market influences that could be considered manipulation either.

Nah.