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Coreece last won the day on July 8 2020

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  1. About as hypocritical as those who bitch about a two party system but keep voting for one of the two parties.
  2. Pile it on all you can if you feel so inclined. I mean if you really feel so shitty about it. . .
  3. About as hypocritical as those who bitch about a two party system but keep voting for one of the two parties.
  4. Awesome, I'm going to use that for my "happy halloween" texts later tonight.
  5. This may be a good place to start: https://2020election.procon.org/view.source.election.php?sourceID=015163 Or you can sort through various issues here: https://2020election.procon.org/ Here's a "cheat sheet" that quickly lists how they all stand on the issues: https://2020election.procon.org/view.source-summary-chart.php
  6. Because I really don't disagree with it. I was just using what I said there to help illustrate my perspective on the issue.
  7. I guess I just consider Libertarians to be the most independent of the 3 parties and would be a better check on congress.
  8. Why would you be tasked with using the words ‘ending the Covid-19 pandemic” if your contention was that the WH weren’t trying to represent themselves as having ended the Covid 19 pandemic? Joe said that the author of the press release consciously chose to use the word "ending" to give it some wiggle room. So I asked him what words would he choose if he were tasked with editing that specific phrase. I don’t understand - you said the 65 page report doesn’t talk about ending the pandemic. I said that the report talks about what they did, what they're doing and what they're going to do to end the pandemic, which is why I think it was acceptable to highlight all that under the category of "ending the covid-19 pandemic" in the press release, even tho the report itself did not specifically use the phrase "ending the covid-19 pandemic." Here's my reply to Wendy that I feel best illustrates my perspective on the issue: "I understand what you are saying, but that's still only one of several items discussed in the report. They're not going to list all of them in the press release. If you were to summarize what the report says with regard to what they did, what they're doing and what they're going to do to end it, wouldn't it all fit nicely under the category of "ending the covid-19 pandemic?"
  9. Tho I think some Libertarian ideas may not be practical given how the country has scaled over the past 200 years, I don't find myself so bitterly opposed to their ideas/arguments as I am with those on the fringes of the democrat and republican parties. And given that we don't have a libertarian congress, I don't think we'd have to worry too much about those reservation becoming a serious concern any time soon if JoJorg or another libertarian were elected president. So in that light, wouldn't it be better to have a libertarian president checking a rep/dem congress rather than a rep/dem president checking a rep/dem congress, or even worse, a republican president checking a republican majority or democrat president checking a democrat majority? It might even encourage congress to work together more closely in the event that they had to override a veto if they really wanted to pass legislation. I'd also add that from my perspective, they seem to be more thoughtful/reasonable when it comes to balancing social programs with fiscal responsibility.
  10. Almost any other word. But when you consider that we lead the world in both infections and deaths, and we’re #3 in population, and significantly lower than that in density, I’m not sure I’d put that up high. Maybe “closed inputs to country in response to Covid” I understand what you are saying, but that's still only one of several items discussed in the report. They're not going to list all of them in the press release. If you were to summarize what the report says with regard to what they did, what they're doing and what they're going to do to end it, wouldn't it all fit nicely under the category of "ending the covid-19 pandemic?"
  11. What no more pictures of weasels? Not sure what you people have against weasels anyway. I once read that a weasel climbed into the anus of the Algonquian/Canadian wendigo and ate his heart from within.
  12. But you at least agree there IS wiggle room. Whether or not it's just a case of Hanlon's razor is another issue, as is with the veracity of claims found in the actual OSTP report. Ok, let's try this. Suppose you were charged with the task of having to edit the words "ending the covid-19 pandemic." You've read the 65 page OSTP and what they're doing with regard to ending the covid-19 pandemic. What words would you choose to highlight that topic in the press release?
  13. I can agree that it concisely reflects your perception of the press release's fragmented text by structuring it into one complete sentence that's not fluently expressed in the press release. We could dig into further, but I'm afraid we'd just be rehashing the same arguments that do nothing to reconcile the ambiguity of the text more that what we already have. If you can simply agree with Webs that there's at least some wiggle room there, then I'm good with that.
  14. You can? That's damn generous of you. I'd say the topic is officially dead ended. What about the politifact link I posted? Can you say that you agree with it, or are you afraid of being called a weasel?
  15. I can concede that it's not necessarily intellectually dishonest to hold the view that "ending" means "ended" on this particular issue. Can you guys agree with the politifact article I posted earlier or do you think they're weasling too? https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/oct/28/did-white-house-say-pandemic-over/ As a point of grammar, "ending the COVID-19 pandemic" can be read two ways. It could mean that the pandemic is over, which it isn’t. But the phrase could also mean that the country is in the process of ending the pandemic. That’s different. The money spent on research and testing has provided more tools that hold some promise of beating back the virus. In that light, there have been gains. It’s reasonable to say that some White House staffer went beyond what the authors of the report wrote, and pushed the envelope in wordsmithing the press release. It’s not a slam-dunk to say that the White House was asserting "Mission Accomplished."