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  1. YOU said that. So you'll have to take your outrage to a mirror. In reference to teenage transitioning, you said: "That decision ultimately lies with the child and their parents." I responded: "The only one that should be making that decision is the person that's going to have to live with it for the rest of their life, when both their body and mind are mature enough to do so. Take Chloe Cole for example. She didn't do that to herself, her parents and the professionals they relied on did that to her. Probably wise to just wait several more years and let the child make the decision when they're an adult and responsible for their own choices." You then go on about how a child can't make that decision after just saying the decision lies with the child and their parent, and then you start talking about infants. Fine that's an important issue too, but not what we were talking about.
  2. I just went back through the thread because I’d missed what you were talking about - that was you! You brought race into the conversation from absolutely nowhere. You must've missed post #1285 & #1287 It all worked out - after 2 pages of deflection, the Chloe Cole issue was finally addressed.
  3. That’s obviously untrue, as all the posts you’ve just replied to show. Well ya, after pressing the issue for almost an entire page, we're finally getting somewhere. . .
  4. Is that a logical AND? We've been talking about middle school children, now he's moving it to infants that don't have any say in the decision.
  5. But are there any permanent transitions occurring with children? I believe the only surgery ever done is potentially a double-mastectomy - technically "reversible", though in fairness you would lose the ability to breast-feed. Right, mastectomies and the short/long-term side effects of hormone therapy. The other procedures I listed in my reply to Wendy appear to be limited to adults for now, but I can't say for sure.
  6. Sorry, kids can't make those kind of decisions. Sorry for you. I was replying to the post where you said, "That decision ultimately lies with the CHILD and their parents. I learned about informal fallacies from people like you and a few others here when I was reading these threads back in my 20s. I'm in my 40s now, so don't think I haven't noticed every time you do it.
  7. Again, when did you get so Woke? Winsor himself would be aghast that you are trying to cancel people for criticising any religion. It isn't just about religion, someone already played the race card and this isn't even about race. (which you once again selectively quoted out of my post) And it's not even about the criticism itself. It's about continually using that criticism in lieu of a counter argument inline with wtf we're actually talking about. I'll give skydekker a pass on this one since I initially didn't see the parallel, which I have to admit is rather entertaining. But it would've been nice if he also included something tangible about why he disagreed with the original comment he quoted. I guess a better example of this was when Phil posted that Winsor was just afraid that Harris was going to take away his bibles, lmao.
  8. Perhaps that's the disconnect. We're talking about the more permanent types of transition, not things like changing your name, hair color and clothing.
  9. That's so vague I don't even know where to begin. We've all been teenagers where everything and nothing is the end of the world, yet most us make it out alive to realize how foolish we were. Ya, some of us didn't make it and there are numerous reasons as to why that is - and in many cases it's probably not even the obvious one. Perhaps we can start by not pumping our kids up with hormones and psychotropic drugs. Really, comparing nose jobs and braces to teenage hysterectomies, mastectomies, orchiectomies, sphalloplasty, metoidioplasty, and vaginoplasty? Perhaps you've heard of Invisilign or newer alternatives to rhinoplasty? Regardless, at least the nose is still a nose and teeth still teeth. Even some acne medications are no longer considered suitable for children. You're barking up the wrong tree. I'm not about making laws. But seriously, if we can't find some common ground and a way to police ourselves more responsibly, then they're just going to draw the line right down the divide and keep shoving laws down our throat.
  10. It may be; it may not be. That decision ultimately lies with the child and their parents. The only one that should be making that decision is the person that's going to have to live with it for the rest of their life, when both their body and mind are mature enough to do so. Take Chloe Cole for example. She didn't do that to herself, her parents and the professionals they relied on did that to her. Probably wise to just wait several more years and let the child make the decision when they're an adult and responsible for their own choices.
  11. Right, and as I said earlier, people here tend to get a bit hyperbolic, usually in an attempt to bring attention to the more negative aspects of a particular practice that may be getting lost in all the hype. Ok, so you knew that he 'belongs' to a tribe. So given that, I'm sure you also knew he was an atheist and secular (non-practicing) Jew that often refers to that tribe (practically every time he brings it up) as a severely dysfunctional family suffering from mental malware. Probably not the best comparison to make your point. . . Always better to just tackle it head on, rather than taking the easy way out by attacking someone's religion, or by just calling them a bigot and avoiding the issue. (i.e that's akin to saying you hate black people!)
  12. Judge not, that ye be judged. For with what judgment, ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again Before you remove the mote from your brother's eye, see that you remove the beam from your own He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her Ok, so as a matter of public opinion, what does that have to do with discussing why transitioning your child may not be in their best interest? Given the multiple attempts at deflection, I'll take it that most people here would agree.
  13. How about not weaseling out of something that you wish to avoid addressing. We've discussed the excision of foreskins rather extensively in the past, and iirc many here wish their parents chose otherwise.
  14. Well that's an obvious case of deliberate child abuse. I'm sure parents that decided to send their kid through gender re-assignment surgery felt they were doing what's best in the interest of the child, just as parents that sent their kids to Jesus Camp felt they were doing what's best. People here tend to be a bit hyperbolic and have referred to both as "child abuse," and tho that may not necessarily be the case, it doesn't negate the underlying danger they're trying to point out.
  15. Lot of comments here about how Christianity is child abuse, is that also the same as "I hate blacks," or is there an underlying point to be made?