DJL 232 #1 February 5, 2018 WUPS!!! This is better placed in the Russiagate thread but it really is such a stand-alone thing that I think it deserves its own moment. Trump's supporters have been pointing at the "fake dossier" for a long time in an effort to refute the investigation. http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/372043-memo-papadopoulos-info-triggered-fbis-russia-investigation"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,123 #2 February 5, 2018 And that the guy who investigated Clinton also investigated Trump. That shows that clearly their political bias corrupted the FBI's ability to do their job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,341 #3 February 5, 2018 And yet the "Trumpettes" and their cheerleaders are all claiming 'victory' and that the memo proves the Mueller investigation should be shut down. Their grasp of reality is getting more and more tenuous."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #4 February 5, 2018 I think the Trump people fall into two general camps: those that have never even thought of doing their own research and just believe whatever Hannity/Limbaugh/Brietbart tell them, and those who know the memo is bullshit but don't care because it gives them an excuse to shut down the legitimate investigation. What the two groups have in common is their belief that it doesn't matter what the truth or consequences are, so long as their side is seen to be winning. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,625 #5 February 5, 2018 Will you quit it with those pesky FACTS! You'll make Marc's head explode.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #6 February 5, 2018 kallend Will you quit it with those pesky FACTS! You'll make Marc's head explode. I do believe that Marc has already proven his head is completely fact proofed. He has it wrapped in an official Hannity tinfoil hat to keep the truth out and the lies in.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,341 #7 February 5, 2018 DanGI think the Trump people fall into two general camps: those that have never even thought of doing their own research and just believe whatever Hannity/Limbaugh/Brietbart tell them, and those who know the memo is bullshit but don't care because it gives them an excuse to shut down the legitimate investigation. What the two groups have in common is their belief that it doesn't matter what the truth or consequences are, so long as their side is seen to be winning. Very true. Some of them don't even seem to care about "their side" winning, as much as they do about the "other side" losing."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #8 February 5, 2018 wolfriverjoe Very true. Some of them don't even seem to care about "their side" winning, as much as they do about the "other side" losing. ^That I'll stand in that corner. I am staunchly anti-socialist/communist. The only thing the liberal Democrats can provide is derisive opposition. What ever happened to party platform planks and what they were going to do for the nation?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #9 February 5, 2018 Yet you clearly support a Russian backed administration. How is that anti-Communist????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,625 #10 February 5, 2018 It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that Comey, a lifelong Republican, Rosenstein, a lifelong Republican, and Mueller, a lifelong Republican, are engaged in a conspiracy with Hillary Clinton and the Dems to undermine Trump.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #11 February 5, 2018 >I am staunchly anti-socialist/communist. Unless the Russians support your guy. Then you are staunchly pro-Russia. >>Some of them don't even seem to care about "their side" winning, as much as they do >>about the "other side" losing. Great example of that: >The only thing the liberal Democrats can provide is derisive opposition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #12 February 5, 2018 RonD1120 I'll stand in that corner. I am staunchly anti-socialist/communist. As a councellor you should know that there is a gap between how we perceive ourselves and how we actually behave. How large that gap is depends on the person. Your actions do not show you as staunchly anti-communist, no matter how much you want to believe that you are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #13 February 5, 2018 QuoteThe only thing the liberal Democrats can provide is derisive opposition. What ever happened to party platform planks and what they were going to do for the nation? Just wondering exactly how far you go in opposing progressivism. Are you one of the staunch conservatives that is still upset about the "New Deal"? I kind of agree with you that the Ds are currently offering no real policy direction for America. They seem to be almost completely stuck on being anti-Trump and little else. Of course that is largely because Trump pretty much sucks all of the air out the room....Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #14 February 5, 2018 kallend It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that Comey, a lifelong Republican, Rosenstein, a lifelong Republican, and Mueller, a lifelong Republican, are engaged in a conspiracy with Hillary Clinton and the Dems to undermine Trump. We need to understand Ron and others in his camp. National defense, LE and perhaps education. Other than those areas of federal perview, every program entitling an American to a federal benefit, or protection, is communism. Or am I mistaken? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,914 #15 February 5, 2018 normissYet you clearly support a Russian backed administration. How is that anti-Communist????? That's easy. Communism is completely dead in Russia. Russia has not been even a little socialist for well over a decade. It is a right wing oligarchy. Just like Trump wants for America. It's mostly white and Christian, especially the people holding power, and it is it a perpetual fight with it's Islamic population. People like Ron, and also all white nationalists now see Putin's Russia as a natural ally. Russia is a northern country full of white skinned milk drinkers. And, it's not a "shithole" country. What's not to like? Russia is no longer the enemy. Mohammed's followers are the new boogeymen.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,055 #16 February 5, 2018 kallend It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that Comey, a lifelong Republican, Rosenstein, a lifelong Republican, and Mueller, a lifelong Republican, are engaged in a conspiracy with Hillary Clinton and the Dems to undermine Trump. Its not that hard to connect the dots. Start at 1:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtqIiYRm0XINobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #17 February 5, 2018 >Start at 1:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtqIiYRm0XI Background on the source of that video: ====================== One America News Network - Right Bias These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. ======================= https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-america-news-network/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #18 February 5, 2018 There is no proof of your allegation. OTOH, maybe it is time for us to increase our level of capitalistic relationships with Russia and take away some of the control that China exhibits over our trade. Bottom line, Donald Trump is POTUS and Hillary ain't.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #19 February 5, 2018 BIGUN*** It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that Comey, a lifelong Republican, Rosenstein, a lifelong Republican, and Mueller, a lifelong Republican, are engaged in a conspiracy with Hillary Clinton and the Dems to undermine Trump. Its not that hard to connect the dots. Start at 1:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtqIiYRm0XI I gotta ask because I don't know you but is that joke?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #20 February 5, 2018 gowlerkQuoteThe only thing the liberal Democrats can provide is derisive opposition. What ever happened to party platform planks and what they were going to do for the nation? Just wondering exactly how far you go in opposing progressivism. Are you one of the staunch conservatives that is still upset about the "New Deal"? I kind of agree with you that the Ds are currently offering no real policy direction for America. They seem to be almost completely stuck on being anti-Trump and little else. Of course that is largely because Trump pretty much sucks all of the air out the room.... I have a brother-in-law who is a rigid Democrat because of FDR and the New Deal. His family was poor and struggling for survival as Cuban immigrants. He and his father worked for the C.C.C. The ND gave them a chance for middle class as legal citizens because the Great Depression had hit them hard. He will not consider voting otherwise. President Trump sucks the air out because he moves at the speed of business not at the pace government bureaucracy.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,123 #21 February 5, 2018 BIGUN*** It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that Comey, a lifelong Republican, Rosenstein, a lifelong Republican, and Mueller, a lifelong Republican, are engaged in a conspiracy with Hillary Clinton and the Dems to undermine Trump. Its not that hard to connect the dots. Start at 1:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtqIiYRm0XI Takes a special kind of stupid to believe the Uranium One "scandal" too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #22 February 5, 2018 Islamist aren't building unmanned nuclear submarine/torpedoes aimed at the US though. Also to Ron, what American "multi-billionaire" can't get a loan IN the USA and instead goes to Russian banks and mafia????? I'm amazed you believe in a god with zero proof, yet ignore actual factual data and evidence and please and charges about Russia's involvement with the current administration to a treasonous level. I think your Google is broken. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #23 February 5, 2018 Also, remember Trump still has not implemented the Russia Sanctions or given us any explanation for not doing so. Meanwhile, his cabinet met with Russian spies just days before the deadline. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,255 #24 February 5, 2018 QuoteThe only thing the liberal Democrats can provide is derisive opposition. Coming from a Conservative whose own party's stated goal for 8 years was to block everything? QuoteWhat ever happened to party platform planks and what they were going to do for the nation? Did you ever compare Clinton's election manifesto with Trump's? One of them had plans, policies and budgets on multiple important issues... the other had a wall.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #25 February 5, 2018 Latest lies from Nunes: =========== Q: Some say, well what about Papadopoulos, they started looking at him earlier. What do you say to that? Nunes: Well, I would say that if Papadopoulos was such a major figure, why didn’t you get a warrant on him? Papadopoulos was such a major figure, you had nothing on him, you know, the guy lied. As far as we can tell, Papadopoulos never even knew who Trump wa—never even had met with the president. =========== It took all of a few seconds to locate the picture of Trump and Papadopoulous in a meeting together. In an official Trump campaign photo touting the caliber of his national security meetings. I think it was RushMC who said that if something is based on a lie you have to throw it out. So Nunes claims - thrown out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
