skydived19006 4 #1 May 18, 2004 Did a couple of night loads this weekend. There was no moon and very little starlight, not good situation to land out of the lights, especially if you’re loaded much over 1/1. Anyway, we did have 3 land in the dark, one without a flair, sent him to the hospital in an ambulance. Turns out that he didn’t do any real damage to his back, or really hurt at all, but it could have been bad. That brings me to my point, he was wearing a camera, it was some interesting video, or at least audio. Talking about it later with the boys, I came up with a new answer to the age old question. “What do you do if the second parachute doesn’t work?”, “Turn off your camera!” you don’t want to film your own death! I think it’ll be my new tag line!Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #2 May 18, 2004 Quote “What do you do if the second parachute doesn’t work?” Track towards your Rigger, or your Rigger's car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #3 May 18, 2004 Quote“What do you do if the second parachute doesn’t work?” You'll be the first to the ground!May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #4 May 18, 2004 Track towards your rigger's car, put your head between your legs, whatever - you have the rest of your life to decide. "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JRock 0 #5 May 18, 2004 Walk towards the light..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,178 #7 May 18, 2004 I think the funniest one I ever read was to take one shoe off and put it down your pants. People will go nuts trying to figure out what happened. I knew a guy who turned on his side for the impact (double total on a Piglet) when his reserve opened about 400'. He thought it would improve his chances. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #8 May 18, 2004 QuoteI think the funniest one I ever read was to take one shoe off and put it down your pants. People will go nuts trying to figure out what happened. ROFL!!!! That is hilarious! I never heard that one, but now I have all kinds of fun ideas for if I ever have a double mal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TribalTalon 0 #9 May 18, 2004 hmm.. besides die? maybe try to get one last "O" but i doubt i'd be in the mood. i bet that'd raise some eyebrows. "well, he went out with his dick in hand..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #10 May 18, 2004 This same thing happened to me, no moon, off DZ landing, no forward drive, heading towards a train. Didn't flare, didn't even have my hands in my toggle as I was trying to throw my glow stick I had on my head down to count the delay. Bad situation, glad it was a freshly plowed field. If I even had a double mal, I'd try to be the first to land a wingsuit...<--- See look, pink dolphins DO exist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caress 0 #11 May 18, 2004 My friends told me to grab the grass really tight!-Caress I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 May 18, 2004 As the venerable words were spoken in The Last Starfighter as the bad guys were about to burn in.. "We Die". Me.. I am trying anything else I can think of to get that sucker open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TribalTalon 0 #13 May 18, 2004 you know, this is funny, i just remembered the dream i had last night. I was wearing an OLD pilot's parachute, i guess i got shot down or something, i dont know, and i pulled the lil' D ring thing on my harness, and the pilot chute thing, which looked more like a droque with the really thick bridle came out wrapped around the canopy and i was doing everything i could to get it off, but i couldnt. So eventually i hit the ground, got up and went to the rigger and gave him all kinds of hell for fucking up my parachute so badly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MajorDad 0 #14 May 18, 2004 After Plan A, then Plan B, then Plan C, etc. If all else fails, assume that someone on the ground has video on you - smile and wave to the camera. Major Dad CSPA D-579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harksaw 0 #15 May 18, 2004 Aim for the peas.__________________________________________________ I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #16 May 18, 2004 I've been there. I had a 1400' reserve total. I pulled it at 1700' and it opened at 300'. In between I'd thrown the ripcord away to make sure I'd pulled it (after looking at both pins), rolled on my back to blow off a hesitation (nothing but blue sky), and anything else I could think of. I actually gave up, thought "reserve total, I guess I'm dead," and was waiting to hit. When I gave up I immediately calmed down. The panic and hurry to do what ever I could turned off like a switch. I was going to hit a house size brush pile across the road and behind a building. The last thing I thought was that I was going to go straight to the bottom and "I wonder how long it'll take them to find me." People would have thought I waited to long to pull. The reserve PC, captured by one loop, would have come loose on impact. I've wondered how many others fatalities were like this. When it opened I looked up and thought "I'm alive!" Then I looked down, saw the power lines I was heading for, and thought "I'm dead!" I had enough time to turn the round and land in front of the power lines in the same brush pile I was going to hit. I like the shoe in the pants idea, but don't think I had enough time. And there wasn't any grass to grab!!! That was in 1981 at about 80 jumps. I've been on bonus days ever since. Hmmmm turn the camera off? Why, they need something for Max X. Maybe wave bye bye in the camera. Yeah, that's it.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #17 May 18, 2004 Quoteyou know, this is funny, i just remembered the dream i had last night. I was wearing an OLD pilot's parachute, i guess i got shot down or something, i dont know, and i pulled the lil' D ring thing on my harness, and the pilot chute thing, which looked more like a droque with the really thick bridle came out wrapped around the canopy and i was doing everything i could to get it off, but i couldnt. So eventually i hit the ground, got up and went to the rigger and gave him all kinds of hell for fucking up my parachute so badly. I had a dream like that, double malfunction. Like you, I was pissed, but walked away form it. Maybe it's all about dying in a dream causing your real mortal end on earth as well.Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #18 May 18, 2004 Do a really good plf...or track like a fiend for swampy,muddy,heavily vegetated area.....sugar cane field would be perfect......Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooth 0 #19 May 18, 2004 QuoteWhat do you do if the second parachute don't work? Call it a day! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #20 May 18, 2004 i dont use a second parachute Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #21 May 18, 2004 QuoteI knew a guy who turned on his side for the impact (double total on a Piglet) when his reserve opened about 400'. He thought it would improve his chances. It's been done before. A tandem master, here in Florida, rolled over on his back before impact and saved the passengers life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #22 May 18, 2004 If you have no other records, you'll tie the low-pull record. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mwabd1 0 #23 May 18, 2004 Leave the camera ON!! That way someone can edit my last video with a little mood music. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 1 #24 May 18, 2004 I think I will be trying this Took this fromhttp://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/carkeet.html Quotethe parachutist's "five-point landing" is useful to remember even in the absence of a parachute. Meet the ground with your feet together, and fall sideways in such a way that five parts of your body successively absorb the shock, equally and in this order: feet, calf, thigh, buttock, and shoulder. 120 divided by 5 = 24. Not bad! 24 mph is only a bit faster than the speed at which experienced parachutists land. There will be some bruising and breakage but no loss of consciousness to delay your press conference. Just be sure to apportion the 120-mph blow in equal fifths. Concentrate! MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #25 May 18, 2004 QuoteA tandem master, here in Florida, rolled over on his back before impact and saved the passengers life. Is that just a story or is there something out there to help validate it? If its true, that's one hell of a cool thing for the TM to do, even though I'm sure it was a "hope and a prayer" situation.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
