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  1. happythoughts

    inaction is complicity

    true. that is why i don't assume to have all solutions. i am just suggesting that each dz should solve this one. the idea that "this is complex, so let's not do anything" is a really bad decision. we don't need to fix everything, but we need to do something about the known things. if you watch someone do a 180 over the middle of 8 jumpers and get away with swerving through them, that is one problem that is easy to identify and solve. "stop doing that" second problem ? after Bob Holler died - how long until people went back to business as usual ? a month of anger and then... dropped. when we do bigways, "at 500 ft, you are on final, you are part of the 100+ person group, no stupid stuff, not even a 90" if we can create rules that allow 130 people to land safely, why not make a simple one for 9 people landing safely ? most dzs have rules, they just don't enforce them. some of the people who have died in canopy collisions have had more jumps/skills than 10 weekend fun jumpers. some people died just because they under the wrong careless turn.
  2. happythoughts

    inaction is complicity

    the problem is solved by the swoopers. they don't go through the middle of the pattern. 1- they can sit and wait, then go when the pattern clears. 2- they can hop and pop, and enter a vacant landing area. there is no reason to downwind across the top of the main landing area (with other jumpers present) and then do a 180 into a populated pattern. if someone is zigzagging through 5 jumpers on final, that person survives because the person ahead of them is flying safely. one radical change and the unseen person behind will plow into them at 50 ft. there is a too-long list of jumpers (many experienced ones) who were killed by others in canopy collisions. being safe doesn't help if the person who hits you isn't. i am discussing recklessness flying and arrogant disregard for others. skill isn't a factor. each dz needs to a policy for this.
  3. happythoughts

    inaction is complicity

    things happen and then, for 2 months, people bitch about it. "yes, reckless. a tragedy. so sad. we should have rules. they should be enforced." we keep having canopy collisions. then people are angry and sad. then they stop thinking about it. a dz should have landing area rules. they should be enforced. if someone continuously does this, and no one mentions it to them, then those people are complicit in their actions and the results. if you don't take action, then you don't get to have some kind of righteous indignation when they put your friend in the hospital. mention it to your S&TA, that is their job. i don't care if they have Mad Skillz. i don't care if their buddies think they are Special-cool. no special privileges. fly the pattern. no 360s over the MLA. no 180s in a crowded pattern. follow the landing direction. the rules are there to protect others. a person who takes chances that endanger other peoples lives without care are just dicks. feel free to mention it to them.
  4. happythoughts

    Why do whuffos walk on skydiving gear?

    When I see unattended children, I escort them away from the skydiving equipment. Then, I give them a puppy, a cookie, and a large Red Bull.
  5. happythoughts

    Why do skydivers put gear on benches

    less chance of a dog peeing on it.
  6. happythoughts


    it depends on the process that you use to move from the beginning to the end of the thread. read the thread. come back in and press the "last" button and it bounces forward to the 22,000th response. traffic may be the wrong word. i was referring to network traffic and the unnecessary busy work for the server which creates wait time.
  7. happythoughts


    The original DB Cooper thread was locked at 5,000 posts. The new one has topped 21,000 replies. It may be a good idea to lock this one and start a new one, in the interests of traffic.
  8. happythoughts

    DB Cooper

    Okay. Then try to explain all of these things about Kenny as a bundle of coincidences. Before you answer, know this: We have documention on these things, many of which are actually presented in the revised edition. The first entry about Kenny and a possible chute selection is strictly a guess. Kenny was a former paratrooper. That's a given. But at the time of the crime, he hadn't jumped out of a plane in almost 24 years. Maybe that's why he selected the older, military-type chute instead of the sport chute. He suddenly went from 512 bucks a month to tossing around more than five times his yearly income within eight months of the hijacking. Immediately after the hijacking, Kenny stops wearing his toupee and ceases attending union meetings at Northwest. He also begins dressing around town in coveralls, instead of his usual clean-cut type look. He does this until he dies in 1994. Most people in Bonney Lake that don't really know him think he IS a local farmer and have no clue he still works for the airline. July, 1972: Out of all the homes for sale in the Bonney Lake area, Christiansen buys his house for cash from Joe Grimes, a known friend of the alleged accomplice. December 1972 - Kenny pays off a $3,000 promissory note that he has owed for years, and purchases another lot behind what is now the Bonney Lake Safeway - both in cash. He still works for the airline and still only makes about $500 a month, averaging two trips a month on his Orient route. After one of these trips, he brings Dawn J an expensive handmade cuckoo clock he picked up in Japan. October 1994: A few months after Kenny's death, his brother Lyle takes possession of the $186,000 Kenny had in savings at the West One Bank in Sumner, WA, as well as the $24,501 in the checking account. The closing-of-account slips are turned over to Adventure Books of Seattle in 2010 and verified as genuine by both us and the History Channel. They contain the account numbers, dates, branch number, and initials from both the teller and the bank officer who authorized the closures. Lyle also returns to Minnesota with a very large gold and silver coin and stamp collection that belonged to Kenny. Kenny's tax returns don't even come close to reflecting this kind of income. Dawn Andrusko, the sister of the alleged accomplice, admits to both myself and the History Channel that she received a $5,000 cash loan from Kenny five months after the hijacking, after she asked her brother to approach him about it. Geestman is the one who actually gives her the money, although the repayments go to Christiansen. She pays it back in two years, using it as a down payment for a house for she and her four children. January, 2010 - At the first interview with Geestman's ex-wife, Margie immediately points to Bernie as a possible accomplice in the hijacking, although she denies Kenny was involved. In a subsequent interview, after being presented with certain evidence pointing to Kenny, she says: 'You're not going to make him look bad, are you? No matter what Kenny may have done, he was a nice guy...' She calls her ex-husband 'a crook'. February 2010: In her second interview, Margie Geestman produces a set of logs from a tugboat Geestman worked on from about 1968-1975. The 1971 log is the only one missing, which could prove Geestman was NOT at work over the weekend of the hijacking. Margie claims it was stolen a few weeks after KC's death, when her ex showed up after a drive of several hundred miles and broke into her house. He also took several photo albums and some personal papers. She now has locks and hasps on her office door INSIDE the house, even today. February 2010: Before Dawn J was told Kenny was a suspect, she pointed out the tie-tac in a picture as one she knew Kenny owned, although she didn't recognize the tie. When she was told that Kenny was a suspect in the hijacking, she said she had suspected the same thing a long time ago. She also said that Kenny owned a toupee but never wore it again after the date of the hijacking. This confirms what Lyle Christiansen claimed in 2005. April 2010: Brian McWilliams, or 'Mac' as he is better known, finds out from his apartment manager in Selah, WA that Skipp Porteous wants to speak to him about Christiansen. Mac was left the adjoining lot behind Kenny's house. He sold it right away and left town. He also took care of Kenny while he was dying. When he found out Porteous was looking for him, he moved three times in the next four months. Although he spoke to Geoff Grey for the NYM article, he hasn't been seen since. June 2010: A senior exec from Foss Tugs in Seattle contacts Adventure Books and says Geestman's claim that he was 'gone to sea for months at a time' was not true. July 2010: A picture of Carolyn Tyner's ex-husband Robin that was taken in 1992 at Kenny Christiansen's house is discovered. Robin is dressed like DB Cooper and carries a fake gun in the picture. He and Carolyn lived with Kenny for a while. They were later left the house, which they sold after Kenny's death. September 2010: Bernie Geestman admits to History Channel execs that he called up his sister and asked her to deny everything she previously said for the book. History Channel goes easy on him, hoping he will agree to appear on the show, which he eventually does. Initially, he told them he barely knew Kenny and thought he was a dishwasher, when in reality they worked together for years. Pictures of them together range over a period from 1951-1972. Kenny also attended his wedding in 1968. October 4, 2010: Helen Jones, a lifelong friend of both the alleged accomplice and Kenny, said that both men failed to show for Thanksgiving dinner the weekend of the hijacking, and she confirmed for the first time that both men were together, wherever they went. Previously, no one had said Kenny was with Geestman. Her daughter, who was also at the interview, describes Kenny as dark-complected, using the term 'olive'. When I asked her if she had ever seen the official FBI description of the hijacker, she said no. October 5, 2010: Helen Jones drives up to Bonney Lake from Sumner and tells producers for the History Channel show that she is absolutely certain Kenny smoked Raleigh cigarettes, not Camels. She had initially named the brand SHE had once smoked, but said that she remembered he actually smoked Raleighs because 'he saved the coupons'. She had no idea what the significance was of this statement, although History Channel did. The Decoded producers ask her to appear on the show, since they are filming when she shows up in Bonney Lake. She refuses, saying she's afraid of Geestman. October 6th, 2010: Geestman goes on camera but remains silent when asked where he was over the weekend of the hijacking. Previously, he had said he was out camping. He responds to questions only by calling me a liar and claiming he didn't do anything. December 10, 2010: Carolyn Tyner of Boulder, CO confirms Dan Rattenbury's story that approximately $2,000 in twenty-dollar bills was found in a pile of stumps on the adjoining lot Kenny once owned behind his house. She did not know Rattenbury. Her ex-husband Robin, the one in the 1992 dress-up-like-DB-Cooper picture, is currently in prison. Carolyn is remarried to a cop. December 24, 2010: Original edition of Into The Blast is pulled from publication. Revised Edition is released on January 6, 2011. Two corrections to the book are made on January 21 and the final version is re-released. Yeah...maybe it's all just coincidence. Then again, maybe not. And these things only scratch the surface regarding Kenny as a suspect. EDIT: Sluggo asks... The picture of Robbie Burroughs standing next to the parachute. From the FBI website. Looks like it's in real good shape. There were a lot of articles about the chute, but that silk thing keeps nagging at me for some reason. Here's a quick quote from one of the articles: The hard truth is that no one can say it was a Cooper chute, but on the other hand their reason for saying it isn't doesn't make much sense to me. Those darned provable facts. Just one problem with those. Some people aren't going to discuss any facts that don't support their case. Especially if they have no facts that support their case. I like to check in and see which rock has finally collapsed after being eroded from the continuous waterfall of illogic and crap. Remarkable that you are still here, but no sympathy, I warned you about it months ago. It's the old 95/5 rule. 95% of the useless drivel comes from 5%. Cease to respond to that 5% and you will cease wasting your time.
  9. happythoughts

    Why are airlocks not popular?

    (former airlock owner) The main advantage is that they are more difficult to collapse. That is considered a safety advantage. If there was a style of canopy that collapsed a lot, they would not be in business long. So, most canopies are reasonably safe about this (except if you are flying in 25mph rotors - you can't fix stupid). The major advantage is not a huge problem among other canopies. The disadvantage is that in a 10mph wind, you can't easily walk back to the packing mat because they stay inflated unless you wrestle with them. Personal experience - I consistently had my softest openings in the approx 700 jumps.
  10. I told K, "The party was going well right up until the stabbing." (Among my social skills, Consolation isn't a strength for me)
  11. happythoughts

    Largest Hybrid

    That is a really nice 16-way. It seems like there should be some sort of minimum to qualify as a hybrid. Example - a 50-way with 1 sitflyer is a hybrid, but... At the minimum, a 2-10 ratio perhaps. On Page 71 of the Nov Parachutist is a pic of a 15-way hybrid from earlier this year. 10 flat-fliers and 3 vertical and 2 sit-fliers. It was a 2-pt attempt. On later attempts, 2 headdown people docked on the top. There were a number of good 1-pt dives, but the second points had difficult speed differences.
  12. happythoughts

    Evaluating Personal Ability

    A lot of different topics and skills being discussed. The measurement for all of them is this - know that you can safely execute the skill in all conditions before pushing forward. Formations ? Learn the breakoff pattern, how to get up when going low, how to do safe approaches and docks. Do these skills in 3 and 4-ways before doing them on 8 and then 12-ways. Canopy piloting ? Land your current canopy in a 4mph downwind before downsizing. (You'll do that one day on an off-landing) Whatever it is, do it well small before going big. People need to realize that there is no rush. Especially if it is a rush to claim a skill that cannot be done correctly and safely.
  13. happythoughts

    Cocky/arrogant skydivers.

    i have a policy of limiting jump groups to 8 on walkup groups with unknowns, or 12 if there are 8 experienced people. this is for the safety of everyone. breakoff time is the concern. for the really new folks, keeping track of 2 or 3 others can be challenging.
  14. People make mistakes. The only thing to consider if you do this a lot. If it happens a lot, then consider whether you have the appropriate skills to be on a jump of that complexity. If you make a mistake, or see one, learn from it. You can always back it down a little and focus on that particular skill.
  15. happythoughts

    Loose Pilot Chute on Plane

    Just something to consider - people sit against the wall in the tail of an Otter. The bolts that hold the seatbelts go into that wall. There is a possibility of a snag point for hacky fabric or a loop of bridle. If people are leaning against that wall on the ride up, they should ask for a lower-pin/bridle check.