Katzeye 0 #1 August 19, 2004 OK, everywhere I look I'm reading from women about how they "scared" their man away because they are strong women. Or, men are "scared shitless" by strong women. Usually these statements are accompanied by "he didn't call me back because" or "he left because"... I don't buy it. Can they men out there, who I know are exposed to strong women in this sport, clear this up for me? Do you shy away from strong women? Is it scary or something else? Is a chicken omelette redundant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #2 August 19, 2004 I couldn't make that generalization. I guess I prefer the stronger type but I have dated the "Not so strong" type too. It's much more about the chemistry I have with someone. If anything I lean towards the more independent type of woman. She best be educated and self sufficient if she wants the time of day from me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jb092 0 #3 August 19, 2004 I prefer stonger women, they seem to keep me in check If you ask if I am scared.......only of my wife What could possibly go wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #4 August 19, 2004 I think strong women are scary if they have beards! but I'm not sure what scary means. to some scary can mean : 1 INSANE 2 ASSHOLE 3 LUNATIC 4 PYSCHO 5 HAD A PENIS 6 IT WAS BIGGER THEN HIS 7 WANTED TO USE IT ON HIM so you can see that a word is just a word but the person using it will determine the effect of the word... for instance HEY ASSHOLE!!! thats generally frowned upon but in this sport I'm just calling my closest friendsMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #5 August 19, 2004 Depends on your definition of "strong" or "independent". People can confuse "independent" with "doing whatever they wish". Behaviour without boundaries. When they do something offensive and then their SO leaves, they claim the SO couldn't handle their "independence". "Strong" should mean "capable". If it is expressed as "not needing/wanting anyone", it doesn't allow much room for a relationship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 31 #6 August 19, 2004 'Strength' in a woman is an attractive quality. I define 'strength' as the ability to be independent, to speak honestly and not be afraid what people might think, to manage your own life and finances, to fight back when pressured, to not shit yourself if you get stuck in an elevator (or jump out of a plane ). Strength is measured by how well you can control your own life. It's not measured by how well you can control your partner's life. Being strong makes you admired, being domineering does not. The type of woman that I am most scared of are extremely beautiful women. I fear them because they can cloud my judgement. (and sometimes interrupt my cardio-pulmonary functions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dougiefresh 0 #7 August 19, 2004 Strong women are sexy. I like someone who can look me in the eye and send the shit I give them right back at me.Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. --Douglas Adams Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cava 0 #8 August 19, 2004 Yes. Women frighten me. When one gets too close, I use the usual ruses to avoid contact. Such as holding up a newspaper. Clearing my throat and suddenly seeing something fascinating the next isle over, by the canned soups. Or stepping behind a structure such as a doorway, or a parked car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #9 August 19, 2004 QuoteI think strong women are scary if they have beards! but I'm not sure what scary means. to some scary can mean : 1 INSANE 2 ASSHOLE 3 LUNATIC 4 PYSCHO 5 HAD A PENIS 6 IT WAS BIGGER THEN HIS 7 WANTED TO USE IT ON HIM so you can see that a word is just a word but the person using it will determine the effect of the word... for instance HEY ASSHOLE!!! thats generally frowned upon but in this sport I'm just calling my closest friends WHAT?!!!!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #10 August 19, 2004 I think I'd be better off with a strong, independent woman as historically my relationships with the needy have never gone well. Women don't scare me, they just do a damn good job of confusing me, that's all. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #11 August 19, 2004 QuoteOK, everywhere I look I'm reading from women about how they "scared" their man away because they are strong women. Or, men are "scared shitless" by strong women. Usually these statements are accompanied by "he didn't call me back because" or "he left because"... I don't buy it. Can they men out there, who I know are exposed to strong women in this sport, clear this up for me? Do you shy away from strong women? Is it scary or something else? I doubt they're actually "scared" of strong women, but rather they just pursue women who make them feel "needed." Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #12 August 19, 2004 QuoteI think strong women are scary if they have beards! but I'm not sure what scary means. to some scary can mean : 1 INSANE 2 ASSHOLE 3 LUNATIC 4 PYSCHO 5 HAD A PENIS 6 IT WAS BIGGER THEN HIS 7 WANTED TO USE IT ON HIM so you can see that a word is just a word but the person using it will determine the effect of the word... for instance HEY ASSHOLE!!! thats generally frowned upon but in this sport I'm just calling my closest friends That's fuggin' hilarious...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ladyskydiver 0 #13 August 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteOK, everywhere I look I'm reading from women about how they "scared" their man away because they are strong women. Or, men are "scared shitless" by strong women. Usually these statements are accompanied by "he didn't call me back because" or "he left because"... I don't buy it. Can they men out there, who I know are exposed to strong women in this sport, clear this up for me? Do you shy away from strong women? Is it scary or something else? I doubt they're actually "scared" of strong women, but rather they just pursue women who make them feel "needed." Blues, Dave But, wouldn't a man prefer having a woman in his life that wants him versus needs him? After all, a need can be fulfilled and once that has been fulfilled, what need does she have for him then?Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #14 August 19, 2004 Quotewouldn't a man prefer having a woman in his life that wants him versus needs him? Now there's your explanation of why I am the way I am with women. If you can only take I don't want you around! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goalie35 0 #15 August 19, 2004 You're right, a MAN would prefer being wanted to being needed...unfortunately, there are boys everywhere, and they can be hard to tell from men until you're in too deep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #16 August 19, 2004 Quotethere are boys everywhere, and they can be hard to tell from men until you're in too deep. HA......damn did I see enough "Little Boys and girls" at the WFFC to last me the rest of the year. Kinda sad really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #17 August 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteI doubt they're actually "scared" of strong women, but rather they just pursue women who make them feel "needed." Blues, Dave But, wouldn't a man prefer having a woman in his life that wants him versus needs him? After all, a need can be fulfilled and once that has been fulfilled, what need does she have for him then? If you'd said "shouldn't" instead of "wouldn't" I'd agree wholeheartedly. But I know there are people (male and female) who seek others that make them feel needed, e.g. women who consistently date/take care of men with money problems. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites winsor 187 #18 August 19, 2004 QuoteOK, everywhere I look I'm reading from women about how they "scared" their man away because they are strong women. Or, men are "scared shitless" by strong women. Usually these statements are accompanied by "he didn't call me back because" or "he left because"... I don't buy it. Can they men out there, who I know are exposed to strong women in this sport, clear this up for me? Do you shy away from strong women? Is it scary or something else? You have what amounts to a compound question here. The implications of the buzzword "strong women" vary greatly, depending on who you ask. Being hetero, my relationships with women are (with any luck) quite different from those with men. Thus, behavior that I will not tolerate on an intimate basis is not a factor with men the way it can be with women. If you ask any person who has worked in an insane asylum, they will tell you that with psychosis often comes superhuman strength. Thus, what is generating fear is not necessarily the "strong woman" part of the deal so much as the "psycho bitch" factor. Note that the quotes are from women who concluded that they scared men away by their "strength," not from men who were trying to get clear of them because they were bonkers. FWIW, the women I find truly attractive and with whom I am comfortable are the kind you find in this sport. They are decisive, self assured, and fundamentally capable human beings. The kind of women who bitch to their therapists about how they scare men away because they are too "strong" scare me. If someone thinks they're fucked up enough to need therapy, they're generally right about being fucked up, and I'd just as soon stay clear. NOBODY is that good in bed. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VanillaSkyGirl 6 #19 August 19, 2004 Quotethere are boys everywhere, and they can be hard to tell from men until you're in too deep. HA......damn did I see enough "Little Boys and girls" at the WFFC to last me the rest of the year. Kinda sad really. I completely agree, Clay...sooo sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougiefresh 0 #7 August 19, 2004 Strong women are sexy. I like someone who can look me in the eye and send the shit I give them right back at me.Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. --Douglas Adams Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cava 0 #8 August 19, 2004 Yes. Women frighten me. When one gets too close, I use the usual ruses to avoid contact. Such as holding up a newspaper. Clearing my throat and suddenly seeing something fascinating the next isle over, by the canned soups. Or stepping behind a structure such as a doorway, or a parked car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #9 August 19, 2004 QuoteI think strong women are scary if they have beards! but I'm not sure what scary means. to some scary can mean : 1 INSANE 2 ASSHOLE 3 LUNATIC 4 PYSCHO 5 HAD A PENIS 6 IT WAS BIGGER THEN HIS 7 WANTED TO USE IT ON HIM so you can see that a word is just a word but the person using it will determine the effect of the word... for instance HEY ASSHOLE!!! thats generally frowned upon but in this sport I'm just calling my closest friends WHAT?!!!!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #10 August 19, 2004 I think I'd be better off with a strong, independent woman as historically my relationships with the needy have never gone well. Women don't scare me, they just do a damn good job of confusing me, that's all. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #11 August 19, 2004 QuoteOK, everywhere I look I'm reading from women about how they "scared" their man away because they are strong women. Or, men are "scared shitless" by strong women. Usually these statements are accompanied by "he didn't call me back because" or "he left because"... I don't buy it. Can they men out there, who I know are exposed to strong women in this sport, clear this up for me? Do you shy away from strong women? Is it scary or something else? I doubt they're actually "scared" of strong women, but rather they just pursue women who make them feel "needed." Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #12 August 19, 2004 QuoteI think strong women are scary if they have beards! but I'm not sure what scary means. to some scary can mean : 1 INSANE 2 ASSHOLE 3 LUNATIC 4 PYSCHO 5 HAD A PENIS 6 IT WAS BIGGER THEN HIS 7 WANTED TO USE IT ON HIM so you can see that a word is just a word but the person using it will determine the effect of the word... for instance HEY ASSHOLE!!! thats generally frowned upon but in this sport I'm just calling my closest friends That's fuggin' hilarious...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #13 August 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteOK, everywhere I look I'm reading from women about how they "scared" their man away because they are strong women. Or, men are "scared shitless" by strong women. Usually these statements are accompanied by "he didn't call me back because" or "he left because"... I don't buy it. Can they men out there, who I know are exposed to strong women in this sport, clear this up for me? Do you shy away from strong women? Is it scary or something else? I doubt they're actually "scared" of strong women, but rather they just pursue women who make them feel "needed." Blues, Dave But, wouldn't a man prefer having a woman in his life that wants him versus needs him? After all, a need can be fulfilled and once that has been fulfilled, what need does she have for him then?Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #14 August 19, 2004 Quotewouldn't a man prefer having a woman in his life that wants him versus needs him? Now there's your explanation of why I am the way I am with women. If you can only take I don't want you around! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goalie35 0 #15 August 19, 2004 You're right, a MAN would prefer being wanted to being needed...unfortunately, there are boys everywhere, and they can be hard to tell from men until you're in too deep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #16 August 19, 2004 Quotethere are boys everywhere, and they can be hard to tell from men until you're in too deep. HA......damn did I see enough "Little Boys and girls" at the WFFC to last me the rest of the year. Kinda sad really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #17 August 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteI doubt they're actually "scared" of strong women, but rather they just pursue women who make them feel "needed." Blues, Dave But, wouldn't a man prefer having a woman in his life that wants him versus needs him? After all, a need can be fulfilled and once that has been fulfilled, what need does she have for him then? If you'd said "shouldn't" instead of "wouldn't" I'd agree wholeheartedly. But I know there are people (male and female) who seek others that make them feel needed, e.g. women who consistently date/take care of men with money problems. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 187 #18 August 19, 2004 QuoteOK, everywhere I look I'm reading from women about how they "scared" their man away because they are strong women. Or, men are "scared shitless" by strong women. Usually these statements are accompanied by "he didn't call me back because" or "he left because"... I don't buy it. Can they men out there, who I know are exposed to strong women in this sport, clear this up for me? Do you shy away from strong women? Is it scary or something else? You have what amounts to a compound question here. The implications of the buzzword "strong women" vary greatly, depending on who you ask. Being hetero, my relationships with women are (with any luck) quite different from those with men. Thus, behavior that I will not tolerate on an intimate basis is not a factor with men the way it can be with women. If you ask any person who has worked in an insane asylum, they will tell you that with psychosis often comes superhuman strength. Thus, what is generating fear is not necessarily the "strong woman" part of the deal so much as the "psycho bitch" factor. Note that the quotes are from women who concluded that they scared men away by their "strength," not from men who were trying to get clear of them because they were bonkers. FWIW, the women I find truly attractive and with whom I am comfortable are the kind you find in this sport. They are decisive, self assured, and fundamentally capable human beings. The kind of women who bitch to their therapists about how they scare men away because they are too "strong" scare me. If someone thinks they're fucked up enough to need therapy, they're generally right about being fucked up, and I'd just as soon stay clear. NOBODY is that good in bed. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #19 August 19, 2004 Quotethere are boys everywhere, and they can be hard to tell from men until you're in too deep. HA......damn did I see enough "Little Boys and girls" at the WFFC to last me the rest of the year. Kinda sad really. I completely agree, Clay...sooo sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #20 August 19, 2004 Strong, smart women are very attractive. Women that play stupid, are destructive or needlessly indecisive or wrecklessly submissive to destructive men are not. At all._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #21 August 19, 2004 QuoteQuotethere are boys everywhere, and they can be hard to tell from men until you're in too deep. HA......damn did I see enough "Little Boys and girls" at the WFFC to last me the rest of the year. Kinda sad really. You noticed that as well?_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #22 August 19, 2004 First you have to Define "Strong Women". If you mean Demanding, Manipulative, Stubborn, Self Centered and Self Righteous.. Then Yes, I am scared of any PERSON who fits that description (Male or Female) and will distance myself from them fast as possible soon as I realize how "Strong" they are. However if you mean Independent, Confident and self-assured then that is exactly the type of Woman I would prefer to be around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #23 August 19, 2004 Gotta go for young & stupid in this corner. Raised by my Mom from an egg ? ..I eat strong women for breakfast. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katzeye 0 #24 August 19, 2004 Great discussion! Sorry for being unclear about "strong". I definitely did not mean in the physical sense (muscles, bench pressing and all that). Quote Note that the quotes are from women who concluded that they scared men away by their "strength," not from men who were trying to get clear of them because they were bonkers. FWIW, the women I find truly attractive and with whom I am comfortable are the kind you find in this sport. They are decisive, self assured, and fundamentally capable human beings. The kind of women who bitch to their therapists about how they scare men away because they are too "strong" scare me. If someone thinks they're fucked up enough to need therapy, they're generally right about being fucked up, and I'd just as soon stay clear. NOBODY is that good in bed. Bravo Winsor! You managed to articulate what I was driving at! Thank you, now I can sleep. Is a chicken omelette redundant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #25 August 19, 2004 Here's my opinion..... Some women that consider themselves "strong" or "independent" may be just that, but sometimes they're a bit "fem-nazi"ish, and that's a huge turn off. There's a difference between "I don't need a man to survive, but if I had one I'd love him" and "I don't need a man cuz I'm strong and independent and a man would only hold me back". Perfect example of the latter.....Beyonce Knowles. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
