Remster 24 #26 January 14, 2005 QuoteEXTREME New rule: next person who types EXTREME gets banned... Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #27 January 14, 2005 Quote QuoteEXTREME New rule: next person who types EXTREME gets banned... From their dropzone??? Seriously, I can't stand those types.... Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #28 January 14, 2005 Quote QuoteEXTREME New rule: next person who types EXTREME gets banned... Agree.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plowdirt 0 #29 January 14, 2005 We are the whacko's. I would say I don't agree with you guys, on the part of every kid hook a turn inn, we are those kids, BUT WE LEARNED YOU DON'T JUST GO OUT THERE AND DO THAT. Some learn the hard way, others learned the hardest. I say bring it, every wanna be extreme sportist, come on do isp, aff, and guess what, it's our job to conduct ourselves as senior jumpers and make sure we look out for low number jumpers. Not act like fools, as in belligerant drunk, drug addict hippies, like someone said up there( not exactly but close) there's your human life and reputation of the sport. The beginning is here and it's been here for a long time. you might wanna think that it should be the end of the party atmosphere, and purify this sport, Like the lucrative expectation of this sport and purification may go hand in hand, you have jumpers partying like maniacs you will get swooperX at 20 jmps hookin it inn and take a nice mouthful of dirt more often then not. don't get me wrong I'm not saying we are all a bunch of bang ups, but we do need a good kick inn the ass every now and then. YOU ARE A SENIOR SKYDIVER TO SOMEONE AND YOU SHOULD ACT ACCORDINGLY. ( and thats for all jumpers) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #30 January 14, 2005 I can see what you're trying to say here (or at least I think I do, I might be misunderstanding something). You're implying that because the party scene is so crazy after the beer light comes on and at boogies and such, that we, as skydivers, are being irresponsible and therefore are, in fact, the "whacko's" I'm speaking of. I see your point, I really do. Still......... It's better to have 5 guys skydive with only 1 of them being a dumbass than for 10 to skydive and 5 of them be dumbasses. Understand now? We don't want skydiving to become popular. The reputation of the sport is too precious and fragile to lose to some "thrillseekers" wanting to look cool. That's all I'm trying to say. I'm gonna leave this conversation now....probably for the best. Have fun guys! Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #31 January 14, 2005 He said the "E" word. Ban him ! Ha.And Wrongway.... aren't we glad they let us in before they stop all the wack-os out there from getting into the sport ?hmm Wackos and Whuffos. Glad i'm wacked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medusa 0 #32 January 14, 2005 Quote Think the low hook numbers are bad now? Wait till every 12 year old wants to grow up to be like Swooper X and starts hooking a Velocity 96 on jump 26 because they want to be like Swooper X and have been waiting years and years to do it. you are being extremist. to begin with there is no way some one can have access to a velocity 96 on jump 26 , that is way we got regulations and staff. once you get into the sport you realized that it wasn't as easy as you thought, that landing a canopie is difficult and require experience, skills, timing etc..... the fact that a 12 years old watch Evil cannivel in his modify harley davidson jumping 18 cars, doesn't mean that he's mommy will buy him a modify harley davidson and borrow him the family van to jump it infront of the house. is understand that there is additional things such as skills, training, ability etc....Medusa Get Killed or Die Trying! Patent pending ATFK15456 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #33 January 14, 2005 Hey, what was that one group... they did that song "More Than Words" - really crappy love song... early 90s... crap.. can't think of it. Anyone?it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #34 January 14, 2005 Quoteto begin with there is no way some one can have access to a velocity 96 on jump 26 Sure they can. Nothing is stopping them now from that. I know some idiot that got his hands on a Rage 140 at least at 1.6 at ~35 jumps. He wanted it sooner but the demo did'nt come in till then. His progression whet, Student gear, Student gear, Rage 140. And there is no regulation to prevent it either. Landing a canopy is easy. Landing a canopy safely and gently takes a LOT more effort.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #35 January 14, 2005 Quotethere are many not spectator sports that are lucrative raly for example "you only see the car pass ones" I think the primary reason why skydiving is not a lucrative sport is simply BAD MARKETING. Most people have no frame of reference for skydiving. NASCAR is big, but most people who watch it drive. Football is big, but most have run and thrown a football before. Very few folks have made a skydive and most of them were just tandems. People can't understand it, they can not relate to it."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #36 January 14, 2005 Quoteis no way some one can have access to a velocity 96 on jump 26 , that is way we got regulations and staff What regulations?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78RATS 0 #37 January 14, 2005 I remember watching Orly and Omar on the X Games when ESPN showed them. (Yeah, I'm old) I had no idea what I was watching but I thought it was cool as shit. OTOH if I see one more card game on ESPN, I'm gonna scream. Rat for Life - Fly till I die When them stupid ass bitches ask why Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #38 January 14, 2005 QuoteOTOH if I see one more card game on ESPN, I'm gonna scream. Just wait.. I'm sure they will make a series called "Extreme Solitaire" Damm... How do I ban myself? Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #39 January 14, 2005 Old backpacking joke... If you are lost in a forest what is the easiest way to get rescued? Start a game of solitare and someone will be there to say "Move that card here instead" in about 10 minutes. The Duece will be playing even more cards this year due to its high ratings last year Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #40 January 14, 2005 QuoteDamm... How do I ban myself? Is that some kind of autoerotic reference?it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjules 0 #41 January 14, 2005 You have to think...unless you're a skydiver, or want to be, there is nothing interesting about watching skydiving. Most whuffo's think it's crazy and do nothing but damn the sport, the rest that enjoyed watching it - once seems to be enough for them. ***Free bird Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #42 January 14, 2005 QuoteYou have to think...unless you're a skydiver, or want to be, there is nothing interesting about watching skydiving. Most whuffo's think it's crazy and do nothing but damn the sport, the rest that enjoyed watching it - once seems to be enough for them. ***Free bird Forever Yup, I have shown videos to a variety of whuffos and even friends that have made a few tandems - all of them get bored to tears quick. I remember watching the XGame Skysurfing stuff before I started jumping. It was always my favorite part of the games, but I never understood what they were doing, just that it looked cool._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflycracker 0 #43 January 14, 2005 Even if I had no idea what skydiving felt like or had no basic concept of it. I would still rather see it than the 'Rock Paper Scissors' championship that FOX sports was running in prime time last week. It was a full on production. But, you cant get a couple bucks to televise a swoop comp. IMO the american media just plain sucks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjules 0 #44 January 14, 2005 Yep, me too. I would watch the extreme network, I absolutely loved it when they showed skydiving or base jumping. I made a tape of some of it, I could watch it over and over again, my interest doesn't diminish. ***Free bird Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #45 January 14, 2005 the answer is simple on a Barcelona-Real Madrid soccer match there are 98 934 seats (all occupied) * 30 euro (140$) - = almost 3 millions euros/night * 38 days/year = 114 milions/year (ONLY TICKETS)*20 teams*6-7 leagues in europe* second leagues* and the math can go on... think... when u (as a sponsor) have 50.000 (average) spectaors on a single event and have 50 (average) events/year for sure u`ll get more publicity now there are milions who watch soccer at tv... how many will watch a skydiving competition? why i talk about math... i`m confused... why i... omg i even dont speak english it`s all about numbers ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #46 January 14, 2005 DZ Overhead, lack of mainstream publicity and interest in actually jumpin themselves (I find this less at DeLand, lots of people come out to watch the jumpers and eat lunch), lack of knowledge of saftey of our sport, and no chance of it being a spectator sport when you can't see from the ground what is going on. Too high risk for most people to swallow. Obviously I don't have much skydiving experience but I have tons of business and real life experience. NO skydiving company is run like a real business, its sad, there wont' be lucrativeness in the sport until the manuf. and dz's get with the program. PD has done an awesome job as of late changing their manuf. practices, it can be done but most companies aren't willing to put in the time or effort to see things through. You must have money to make money.Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medusa 0 #47 January 14, 2005 finally some one come with a god answer. as I was saying BAD MARKETING. but in the other side we got skydivers who believe that or the own sport god skydiving should't be popular! I completely disagree with that stament because popularity is what make an sport to grow, to get better, to evolve. don't you think??Medusa Get Killed or Die Trying! Patent pending ATFK15456 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #48 January 14, 2005 Lets see what your answer is in another 5-6 years of jumping I used to have this same fight when I started jumping except I had your view point. Getting out of my "Skydiving is the World" bubble sure did open my eye to how Whuffos really think of jumping. Experience dealing with kids exposed to BMX and skateboarding opened my eyes to how kids idolize those people and try to be just like them as soon as possible. One idiot teenager I know (out of only 5 skaters I know) tried to do a back flip on one of his first times in a half pipe because he had watched it so many times on ESPN that he thought it was easy as can be. A split open helmet and probally a concussion later he decided that back flips are'nt that easy.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medusa 0 #49 January 14, 2005 any way I will like to see that 12 year old in a DZ asking to let him jump solo because he want to do transition in head down. all I'm talking about is to create a conscience about skydiving as a sport not as the ultimate adrenaline experience, they have bush gardens and six flags for that I'm saying this because most of my friend believe I jump out of planes just for the rush "and in part I do" and they don't realized that there are physical abilities involve in it, they think that skydiviers are not athletes. why?? because the skydiving marketing present skydiving as an amusement park attraction. and thats the world mentality about skydiving my friendMedusa Get Killed or Die Trying! Patent pending ATFK15456 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #50 January 14, 2005 Here is a question... how many hours a day do you spend running and hitting the gym to get better at jumping? Generally skydivers are more out of shape then any other sport I can think of. All you have to do is walk to the plane, exit and walk in from landing. A whole lot of effort is needed to do that A true athlete to me are the adventure racers. 30-50 miles in 24 hours either by running, climbing, biking, kayaking or a combo. That takes training and effort. Skydiving does'nt. Quotebecause the skydiving marketing present skydiving as an amusement park attraction. Perfect marketing for it too. Its not safe, there is nothing safe about it. If anyone markets it as safe they are out right lying to the customer.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
