riggerrob 558 #1 April 1, 2009 Let's face it - even with the new 180 day repack - cycle, getting your reserve repacked is still a nuisance. With a collection of 43 pens, you can forge the signature of any rigger on the planet. Now the only way to get get caught "pencil-packing" is by the corrosion on the lead seal. How do you polish your lead seal to remove the last hint of impropriety? Do you use a special button shield? ... special polishing cloth? ... motorized buffing wheel? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #2 April 1, 2009 QuoteLet's face it - even with the new 180 day repack - cycle, getting your reserve repacked is still a nuisance. With a collection of 43 pens, you can forge the signature of any rigger on the planet. Now the only way to get get caught "pencil-packing" is by the corrosion on the lead seal. How do you polish your lead seal to remove the last hint of impropriety? Do you use a special button shield? ... special polishing cloth? ... motorized buffing wheel? I've used one of THESE (before I got my riggers ticket), with excellent results. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #3 April 1, 2009 Damn Rob, didn't think you'd be this bored in the spring.BTW I prefer to take it to the detail shop. They're the expert polishers. Hey, do you know of anyone in North America using plastic seals? I have some sent to me from Europe and if I could buy the damn things here I might use them. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 93 #4 April 1, 2009 43 pens?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 37 #5 April 1, 2009 To quote a rigger I know... Tee! Hee! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #6 April 1, 2009 QuoteLet's face it - even with the new 180 day repack - cycle, getting your reserve repacked is still a nuisance. With a collection of 43 pens, you can forge the signature of any rigger on the planet. Now the only way to get get caught "pencil-packing" is by the corrosion on the lead seal. How do you polish your lead seal to remove the last hint of impropriety? Do you use a special button shield? ... special polishing cloth? ... motorized buffing wheel? I recommend going the easy route of stealing your riggers seal press. Free packjobs for you and all your friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,049 #7 April 1, 2009 Hi Rob, You must have not been at Allen Silver's packing seminar at PIA/Reno where the Aussies showed their new paper seals. When I get some time I'm going to contact Allen and see what we can get going with the paper seals. Paper seals = no lead in the environment, nothing to jam a ripcord pin, and much easier to use. JerryBaumchen PS) I hi-jacked a couple of the paper seals and need to get with my daughter ( my graphic artist person ) on how to get them printed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #8 April 1, 2009 "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain_stan 0 #9 April 1, 2009 I use those new disintegrating seals to keep my customers honest. But be careful to buy the 180-day type now or your customers will bitch. Of course I use the old-style lead seals for my personal rig. BTW, I have a bunch of the old 120-day disintegrating seals if anyone has a use for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,123 #10 April 1, 2009 Do you have any of the old exploding ones used to punish people who'd already been caught pencil packing? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #11 April 1, 2009 QuotePaper seals = no lead in the environment, nothing to jam a ripcord pin, and much easier to use. Its really easy to recycle old seals into new seals. Its not a waste if you don't throw away.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain_stan 0 #12 April 1, 2009 The FAA made me quit using thoses when one blew up in a guy's closet during the winter and burned down his apartment building. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,123 #13 April 1, 2009 I'm surprised people aren't melting them down into bullets. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #14 April 1, 2009 You mean other people aren't? I make ammo for my air rifle out of them. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #15 April 1, 2009 Quote I'm surprised people aren't melting them down into bullets. Wendy W. Why not mold into seals again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #16 April 1, 2009 Quote Paper seals = no lead in the environment... Where does lead come from in the first place? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaRusic 0 #17 April 1, 2009 haha you just reminded me of a conversation i had with this very enviromentally friendly girl that i knew in university. I was back home on leave after my first year in the army and i was talking about being out on the firing ranges and how cool it was to shoot a machine gun. She then goes on to tell me how all the lead we are using is damaging the enviroment, i then told her the same thing you mentioned "ya know it came from the ground in the first place right?" she wasnt happy. Thanks for bringing back a good memory The Altitude above you, the runway behind you, and the fuel not in the plane are totally worthless Dudeist Skydiver # 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,049 #18 April 1, 2009 Hi John, Quote Where does lead come from in the first place? Well, on CSI it seems to come from dead guys. Actually, there is a fair amount of stuff that comes out of good old Mother Earth that I don't want in bed with me. Or we could just buy our seals from China down at the local WalMart; the Chinese seem to put lead in everything. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #19 April 1, 2009 Quote Quote Where does lead come from in the first place? there is a fair amount of stuff that comes out of good old Mother Earth that I don't want in bed with me. Are you sleeping with your packing seals? Now that's kinky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #20 April 1, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Where does lead come from in the first place? there is a fair amount of stuff that comes out of good old Mother Earth that I don't want in bed with me. Are you sleeping with your packing seals? Now that's kinky. maybe he just has his penis sealed?"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koppel 3 #21 April 2, 2009 I've ben using my own paper seals for a few years now on the recommendation of our Director of Riggers. I have been using the seals that you would have seen for nearly a year. The only thing I would like to see is the overall size of them reduced slightly. I find on certain rigs there is a chance of them being pinched as the flap gets closed leading to the tie being broken if people aren't careful.I like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerolim 7 #22 April 2, 2009 Where could I get paper seals ? There are no paper seals on para-gear.com ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andyhughes 0 #23 April 2, 2009 Anyone got any photos of the paper seals? How do they work? (i'm pretty happy using the lead ones, but i do like the sound of the paper ones) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #24 April 2, 2009 For the tree huggers amongst us... you could try the new organic seals - but don't forget to feed them.. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #25 April 2, 2009 seriously, i would like to see some...smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites