kmills0705 0 #51 March 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhen the tip is computed it is very tempting to automatically deduct about 1/3 to make up for the taxes I'm paying because, in general, they are not reporting the income. This was almost always the case when we were primarily a cash world. Now that everything goes on plastic more and more restaurants and bars are going to paycheck payroll and not handing out cash at the end of the night. So now, all tips are being reported. I consider myself a good tipper... again if the service is good - at least 20%. And whenever possible I leave cash for the tip instead of putting it on the credit card I used to pay for the meal. I guess I find it offensive for the bartenders/waitstaff to treat me differently (not serve me quicker) because I didn't leave $2.50 tip for a 2.50 beer. Bartenders have a lot less less responsibility than waitstaff. It literally takes the bartender a minute or less to complete the transaction.Kim Mills USPA D21696 Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #52 March 2, 2010 Quote Here is an example.. Go into a restaurant and the Service is Horribly slow. That may or may not have anything to do with the server. It could be because the kitchen is backed up, The waiter has too many tables (maybe someone didnt show for work or maybe the owners just have not hired enough wait staff.) or any number of other reasons. You say, the service sucked. I am not leaving a tip. The waiter still has to pay income taxes on 10% of your bill and they are the only one that is financially suffering. The owner still made their money off your meal, The kitchen Still get paid their hourly rate. The only ones getting screwed are YOU (Poor Service)and the wait staff. In other countries, Sure tips are optional. Here they are not. Well put. Also, the dishwashers and bus boys usually get a cut of the wait staff and bartenders tips.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #53 March 2, 2010 QuoteQuote Well put. Also, the dishwashers and bus boys usually get a cut of the wait staff and bartenders tips. so the generous wait staff get together at the shift end and all pool the tip so the back counter staff can get their fair share??? Dont think soYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ridestrong 1 #54 March 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote Well put. Also, the dishwashers and bus boys usually get a cut of the wait staff and bartenders tips. so the generous wait staff get together at the shift end and all pool the tip so the back counter staff can get their fair share??? Dont think so I used to work at a busy Embassy Suites we had a full service bar & restaurant as well as large banquet functions, weddings etc... At the end of the night/shift we would give the bussers/dishwashers a cut of our tips. I also worked the complimentary bar that we offered for 2 hours every night where I usually made between $100 and $200 dollars. One of the dishwashers would usually help me bus tables and grab ice, at the end of the shift I usually gave him $20-$50 depending on how busy I was.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #55 March 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Well put. Also, the dishwashers and bus boys usually get a cut of the wait staff and bartenders tips. so the generous wait staff get together at the shift end and all pool the tip so the back counter staff can get their fair share??? Dont think so I used to work at a busy Embassy Suites we had a full service bar & restaurant as well as large banquet functions, weddings etc... At the end of the night/shift we would give the bussers/dishwashers a cut of our tips. I also worked the complimentary bar that we offered for 2 hours every night where I usually made between $100 and $200 dollars. One of the dishwashers would usually help me bus tables and grab ice, at the end of the shift I usually gave him $20-$50 depending on how busy I was. and you think that is SOP for all restaurants ??You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ridestrong 1 #56 March 2, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Well put. Also, the dishwashers and bus boys usually get a cut of the wait staff and bartenders tips. so the generous wait staff get together at the shift end and all pool the tip so the back counter staff can get their fair share??? Dont think so I used to work at a busy Embassy Suites we had a full service bar & restaurant as well as large banquet functions, weddings etc... At the end of the night/shift we would give the bussers/dishwashers a cut of our tips. I also worked the complimentary bar that we offered for 2 hours every night where I usually made between $100 and $200 dollars. One of the dishwashers would usually help me bus tables and grab ice, at the end of the shift I usually gave him $20-$50 depending on how busy I was. and you think that is SOP for all restaurants ?? I don't know... but you probably don't either...I'm sure that there are restaurants that have allocation procedures in place and others that don't. The one's that don't would hopefully pay the dishwashers etc the going rate for washing dishes (likely minimum wage).*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Thanatos340 1 #57 March 2, 2010 Tip out or Tip Share is SOP and required at every Restaurant I have ever worked at. (Granted it has been over 15 years since I did) but my daughter has a Part time job now waiting tables and She is still required to Tip-out at the end of the night. Tipout usually goes to Bussers and Bar Staff. Tip out is paid to the House (usually again based off Total Sales from each waiter) and distributed by the house to the Support staff according to Position and Hours worked. At least that is way it worked when I work for some larger Restaurant chains back in college. The wait staff has no choice. They MUST pay tip out. So again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #58 March 3, 2010 QuoteTip out or Tip Share is SOP and required at every Restaurant I have ever worked at. (Granted it has been over 15 years since I did) but my daughter has a Part time job now waiting tables and She is still required to Tip-out at the end of the night. Tipout usually goes to Bussers and Bar Staff. Tip out is paid to the House (usually again based off Total Sales from each waiter) and distributed by the house to the Support staff according to Position and Hours worked. At least that is way it worked when I work for some larger Restaurant chains back in college. The wait staff has no choice. They MUST pay tip out. So again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I wasn't aware of the "tip-out" process. I stand corrected, my wife and i have had a couple of conversations regarding back counter staff and tips, I'm glad they get something.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #59 March 3, 2010 Quote The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I'm older than you i cant be your sonYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billeisele 122 #60 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhen the tip is computed it is very tempting to automatically deduct about 1/3 to make up for the taxes I'm paying because, in general, they are not reporting the income. This was almost always the case when we were primarily a cash world. Now that everything goes on plastic more and more restaurants and bars are going to paycheck payroll and not handing out cash at the end of the night. So now, all tips are being reported. Mic - agree, there are some places that do thisGive one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Heatmiser 0 #61 March 3, 2010 Quote Quote The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I'm older than you i cant be your son Remember, that is Thanatos340 you're speaking to. The only man on the planet with more testosterone is Chuck Norris. In other words, he COULD be your daddy!What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpslo 0 #62 March 3, 2010 It better be $1.00!!! (seeing as I make my rent and bills as a bartender!) "Good rule of thumb; is what you are doing the EASIEST for You? Because if it is, it ain't going to work for the people around you." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites timmyfitz 0 #63 March 3, 2010 QuoteSo again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. Not really. QuoteAn employer must pay at least $2.13 per hour. However, if an employee's tips combined with the employer's wage of $2.13 per hour do not equal the hourly minimum wage, the employer is required to make up the difference. http://www.dol.gov/wb/faq26.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thrillstalker 0 #64 March 3, 2010 depends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true!"Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #65 March 3, 2010 Quotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kmills0705 0 #66 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.[/reply So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me.Kim Mills USPA D21696 Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #67 March 3, 2010 Quote... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. the beggary is much more insidious - imagine if the server got paid at the soup - then got paid at the appetizer, then got paid - etc etc etc a 2 dollar appetizer (15%) tip is 30 cents, what the hell, here's a buck..... multiply by the number of courses....... kind of like boiling a frog ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #68 March 3, 2010 It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kmills0705 0 #69 March 3, 2010 Quote It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Kinda proves you men are superficial and we aren't. And I think women tip better than men in general. At least sadly to say it seems that way. As I said I have never worked in this industry so pure speculation.Kim Mills USPA D21696 Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #70 March 3, 2010 Yes we men are superficial but we are comfortable with it. Women tend to be just as superficial but are not comfortable with it. Hence why guy bartenders don't tend to make as much as their female counterparts. But yes women do tip more then men at restaurants. That's due to women being more understanding and can relate to the waitress. God knows I could. My last relationship....shit I was that girls butler. But that's a different thread.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #71 March 3, 2010 It depends on the bartender, the drinks, the kind of day they're having, and the kind of day I'm having. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrewEckhardt 0 #72 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.[/reply So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. When my wife and I go out for dinner and have a drink at the bar first, the bar tender gets $2 for seeing us twice ($1 per) and the wait person gets $10-$20 for seeing us 5-6 times ($1.67 - $4 per). For like amounts of service, the waiter is getting paid more although the percentage is less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #73 March 3, 2010 Quote So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. It's because the bartender is usually a man, honey.>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thrillstalker 0 #74 March 3, 2010 Quote Quote It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Kinda proves you men are superficial and we aren't. And I think women tip better than men in general. At least sadly to say it seems that way. As I said I have never worked in this industry so pure speculation. honestly, i tip according to service, this doesnt apply so much to a bartender because you go to them. if its a beer, he/she gets a dollar, mixed drink at least 2 dollars. not a bad tip seeing is they just had to turn around and grab a beer. it would be rude to give someone less than a dollar so the whole % thing doesnt come into play with a single drink from a bartender like it does with a waitress."Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #75 March 3, 2010 Are you people fucking pissed? For fuick sake, sort your system out!! Pay people a living wage and cut this begging tipping shite out already - you're one fuck up nation (.)Y(.) 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ridestrong 1 #54 March 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote Well put. Also, the dishwashers and bus boys usually get a cut of the wait staff and bartenders tips. so the generous wait staff get together at the shift end and all pool the tip so the back counter staff can get their fair share??? Dont think so I used to work at a busy Embassy Suites we had a full service bar & restaurant as well as large banquet functions, weddings etc... At the end of the night/shift we would give the bussers/dishwashers a cut of our tips. I also worked the complimentary bar that we offered for 2 hours every night where I usually made between $100 and $200 dollars. One of the dishwashers would usually help me bus tables and grab ice, at the end of the shift I usually gave him $20-$50 depending on how busy I was.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #55 March 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Well put. Also, the dishwashers and bus boys usually get a cut of the wait staff and bartenders tips. so the generous wait staff get together at the shift end and all pool the tip so the back counter staff can get their fair share??? Dont think so I used to work at a busy Embassy Suites we had a full service bar & restaurant as well as large banquet functions, weddings etc... At the end of the night/shift we would give the bussers/dishwashers a cut of our tips. I also worked the complimentary bar that we offered for 2 hours every night where I usually made between $100 and $200 dollars. One of the dishwashers would usually help me bus tables and grab ice, at the end of the shift I usually gave him $20-$50 depending on how busy I was. and you think that is SOP for all restaurants ??You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ridestrong 1 #56 March 2, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Well put. Also, the dishwashers and bus boys usually get a cut of the wait staff and bartenders tips. so the generous wait staff get together at the shift end and all pool the tip so the back counter staff can get their fair share??? Dont think so I used to work at a busy Embassy Suites we had a full service bar & restaurant as well as large banquet functions, weddings etc... At the end of the night/shift we would give the bussers/dishwashers a cut of our tips. I also worked the complimentary bar that we offered for 2 hours every night where I usually made between $100 and $200 dollars. One of the dishwashers would usually help me bus tables and grab ice, at the end of the shift I usually gave him $20-$50 depending on how busy I was. and you think that is SOP for all restaurants ?? I don't know... but you probably don't either...I'm sure that there are restaurants that have allocation procedures in place and others that don't. The one's that don't would hopefully pay the dishwashers etc the going rate for washing dishes (likely minimum wage).*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Thanatos340 1 #57 March 2, 2010 Tip out or Tip Share is SOP and required at every Restaurant I have ever worked at. (Granted it has been over 15 years since I did) but my daughter has a Part time job now waiting tables and She is still required to Tip-out at the end of the night. Tipout usually goes to Bussers and Bar Staff. Tip out is paid to the House (usually again based off Total Sales from each waiter) and distributed by the house to the Support staff according to Position and Hours worked. At least that is way it worked when I work for some larger Restaurant chains back in college. The wait staff has no choice. They MUST pay tip out. So again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #58 March 3, 2010 QuoteTip out or Tip Share is SOP and required at every Restaurant I have ever worked at. (Granted it has been over 15 years since I did) but my daughter has a Part time job now waiting tables and She is still required to Tip-out at the end of the night. Tipout usually goes to Bussers and Bar Staff. Tip out is paid to the House (usually again based off Total Sales from each waiter) and distributed by the house to the Support staff according to Position and Hours worked. At least that is way it worked when I work for some larger Restaurant chains back in college. The wait staff has no choice. They MUST pay tip out. So again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I wasn't aware of the "tip-out" process. I stand corrected, my wife and i have had a couple of conversations regarding back counter staff and tips, I'm glad they get something.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #59 March 3, 2010 Quote The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I'm older than you i cant be your sonYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billeisele 122 #60 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhen the tip is computed it is very tempting to automatically deduct about 1/3 to make up for the taxes I'm paying because, in general, they are not reporting the income. This was almost always the case when we were primarily a cash world. Now that everything goes on plastic more and more restaurants and bars are going to paycheck payroll and not handing out cash at the end of the night. So now, all tips are being reported. Mic - agree, there are some places that do thisGive one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Heatmiser 0 #61 March 3, 2010 Quote Quote The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I'm older than you i cant be your son Remember, that is Thanatos340 you're speaking to. The only man on the planet with more testosterone is Chuck Norris. In other words, he COULD be your daddy!What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpslo 0 #62 March 3, 2010 It better be $1.00!!! (seeing as I make my rent and bills as a bartender!) "Good rule of thumb; is what you are doing the EASIEST for You? Because if it is, it ain't going to work for the people around you." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites timmyfitz 0 #63 March 3, 2010 QuoteSo again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. Not really. QuoteAn employer must pay at least $2.13 per hour. However, if an employee's tips combined with the employer's wage of $2.13 per hour do not equal the hourly minimum wage, the employer is required to make up the difference. http://www.dol.gov/wb/faq26.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thrillstalker 0 #64 March 3, 2010 depends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true!"Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #65 March 3, 2010 Quotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kmills0705 0 #66 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.[/reply So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me.Kim Mills USPA D21696 Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #67 March 3, 2010 Quote... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. the beggary is much more insidious - imagine if the server got paid at the soup - then got paid at the appetizer, then got paid - etc etc etc a 2 dollar appetizer (15%) tip is 30 cents, what the hell, here's a buck..... multiply by the number of courses....... kind of like boiling a frog ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #68 March 3, 2010 It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kmills0705 0 #69 March 3, 2010 Quote It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Kinda proves you men are superficial and we aren't. And I think women tip better than men in general. At least sadly to say it seems that way. As I said I have never worked in this industry so pure speculation.Kim Mills USPA D21696 Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #70 March 3, 2010 Yes we men are superficial but we are comfortable with it. Women tend to be just as superficial but are not comfortable with it. Hence why guy bartenders don't tend to make as much as their female counterparts. But yes women do tip more then men at restaurants. That's due to women being more understanding and can relate to the waitress. God knows I could. My last relationship....shit I was that girls butler. But that's a different thread.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #71 March 3, 2010 It depends on the bartender, the drinks, the kind of day they're having, and the kind of day I'm having. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrewEckhardt 0 #72 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.[/reply So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. When my wife and I go out for dinner and have a drink at the bar first, the bar tender gets $2 for seeing us twice ($1 per) and the wait person gets $10-$20 for seeing us 5-6 times ($1.67 - $4 per). For like amounts of service, the waiter is getting paid more although the percentage is less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #73 March 3, 2010 Quote So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. It's because the bartender is usually a man, honey.>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thrillstalker 0 #74 March 3, 2010 Quote Quote It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Kinda proves you men are superficial and we aren't. And I think women tip better than men in general. At least sadly to say it seems that way. As I said I have never worked in this industry so pure speculation. honestly, i tip according to service, this doesnt apply so much to a bartender because you go to them. if its a beer, he/she gets a dollar, mixed drink at least 2 dollars. not a bad tip seeing is they just had to turn around and grab a beer. it would be rude to give someone less than a dollar so the whole % thing doesnt come into play with a single drink from a bartender like it does with a waitress."Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #75 March 3, 2010 Are you people fucking pissed? For fuick sake, sort your system out!! Pay people a living wage and cut this begging tipping shite out already - you're one fuck up nation (.)Y(.) 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Squeak 17 #55 March 2, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Well put. Also, the dishwashers and bus boys usually get a cut of the wait staff and bartenders tips. so the generous wait staff get together at the shift end and all pool the tip so the back counter staff can get their fair share??? Dont think so I used to work at a busy Embassy Suites we had a full service bar & restaurant as well as large banquet functions, weddings etc... At the end of the night/shift we would give the bussers/dishwashers a cut of our tips. I also worked the complimentary bar that we offered for 2 hours every night where I usually made between $100 and $200 dollars. One of the dishwashers would usually help me bus tables and grab ice, at the end of the shift I usually gave him $20-$50 depending on how busy I was. and you think that is SOP for all restaurants ??You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ridestrong 1 #56 March 2, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Well put. Also, the dishwashers and bus boys usually get a cut of the wait staff and bartenders tips. so the generous wait staff get together at the shift end and all pool the tip so the back counter staff can get their fair share??? Dont think so I used to work at a busy Embassy Suites we had a full service bar & restaurant as well as large banquet functions, weddings etc... At the end of the night/shift we would give the bussers/dishwashers a cut of our tips. I also worked the complimentary bar that we offered for 2 hours every night where I usually made between $100 and $200 dollars. One of the dishwashers would usually help me bus tables and grab ice, at the end of the shift I usually gave him $20-$50 depending on how busy I was. and you think that is SOP for all restaurants ?? I don't know... but you probably don't either...I'm sure that there are restaurants that have allocation procedures in place and others that don't. The one's that don't would hopefully pay the dishwashers etc the going rate for washing dishes (likely minimum wage).*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Thanatos340 1 #57 March 2, 2010 Tip out or Tip Share is SOP and required at every Restaurant I have ever worked at. (Granted it has been over 15 years since I did) but my daughter has a Part time job now waiting tables and She is still required to Tip-out at the end of the night. Tipout usually goes to Bussers and Bar Staff. Tip out is paid to the House (usually again based off Total Sales from each waiter) and distributed by the house to the Support staff according to Position and Hours worked. At least that is way it worked when I work for some larger Restaurant chains back in college. The wait staff has no choice. They MUST pay tip out. So again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #58 March 3, 2010 QuoteTip out or Tip Share is SOP and required at every Restaurant I have ever worked at. (Granted it has been over 15 years since I did) but my daughter has a Part time job now waiting tables and She is still required to Tip-out at the end of the night. Tipout usually goes to Bussers and Bar Staff. Tip out is paid to the House (usually again based off Total Sales from each waiter) and distributed by the house to the Support staff according to Position and Hours worked. At least that is way it worked when I work for some larger Restaurant chains back in college. The wait staff has no choice. They MUST pay tip out. So again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I wasn't aware of the "tip-out" process. I stand corrected, my wife and i have had a couple of conversations regarding back counter staff and tips, I'm glad they get something.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #59 March 3, 2010 Quote The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I'm older than you i cant be your sonYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billeisele 122 #60 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhen the tip is computed it is very tempting to automatically deduct about 1/3 to make up for the taxes I'm paying because, in general, they are not reporting the income. This was almost always the case when we were primarily a cash world. Now that everything goes on plastic more and more restaurants and bars are going to paycheck payroll and not handing out cash at the end of the night. So now, all tips are being reported. Mic - agree, there are some places that do thisGive one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Heatmiser 0 #61 March 3, 2010 Quote Quote The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I'm older than you i cant be your son Remember, that is Thanatos340 you're speaking to. The only man on the planet with more testosterone is Chuck Norris. In other words, he COULD be your daddy!What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpslo 0 #62 March 3, 2010 It better be $1.00!!! (seeing as I make my rent and bills as a bartender!) "Good rule of thumb; is what you are doing the EASIEST for You? Because if it is, it ain't going to work for the people around you." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites timmyfitz 0 #63 March 3, 2010 QuoteSo again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. Not really. QuoteAn employer must pay at least $2.13 per hour. However, if an employee's tips combined with the employer's wage of $2.13 per hour do not equal the hourly minimum wage, the employer is required to make up the difference. http://www.dol.gov/wb/faq26.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thrillstalker 0 #64 March 3, 2010 depends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true!"Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #65 March 3, 2010 Quotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kmills0705 0 #66 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.[/reply So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me.Kim Mills USPA D21696 Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #67 March 3, 2010 Quote... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. the beggary is much more insidious - imagine if the server got paid at the soup - then got paid at the appetizer, then got paid - etc etc etc a 2 dollar appetizer (15%) tip is 30 cents, what the hell, here's a buck..... multiply by the number of courses....... kind of like boiling a frog ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #68 March 3, 2010 It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kmills0705 0 #69 March 3, 2010 Quote It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Kinda proves you men are superficial and we aren't. And I think women tip better than men in general. At least sadly to say it seems that way. As I said I have never worked in this industry so pure speculation.Kim Mills USPA D21696 Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #70 March 3, 2010 Yes we men are superficial but we are comfortable with it. Women tend to be just as superficial but are not comfortable with it. Hence why guy bartenders don't tend to make as much as their female counterparts. But yes women do tip more then men at restaurants. That's due to women being more understanding and can relate to the waitress. God knows I could. My last relationship....shit I was that girls butler. But that's a different thread.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #71 March 3, 2010 It depends on the bartender, the drinks, the kind of day they're having, and the kind of day I'm having. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrewEckhardt 0 #72 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.[/reply So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. When my wife and I go out for dinner and have a drink at the bar first, the bar tender gets $2 for seeing us twice ($1 per) and the wait person gets $10-$20 for seeing us 5-6 times ($1.67 - $4 per). For like amounts of service, the waiter is getting paid more although the percentage is less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #73 March 3, 2010 Quote So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. It's because the bartender is usually a man, honey.>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thrillstalker 0 #74 March 3, 2010 Quote Quote It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Kinda proves you men are superficial and we aren't. And I think women tip better than men in general. At least sadly to say it seems that way. As I said I have never worked in this industry so pure speculation. honestly, i tip according to service, this doesnt apply so much to a bartender because you go to them. if its a beer, he/she gets a dollar, mixed drink at least 2 dollars. not a bad tip seeing is they just had to turn around and grab a beer. it would be rude to give someone less than a dollar so the whole % thing doesnt come into play with a single drink from a bartender like it does with a waitress."Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #75 March 3, 2010 Are you people fucking pissed? For fuick sake, sort your system out!! Pay people a living wage and cut this begging tipping shite out already - you're one fuck up nation (.)Y(.) 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ridestrong 1 #56 March 2, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Well put. Also, the dishwashers and bus boys usually get a cut of the wait staff and bartenders tips. so the generous wait staff get together at the shift end and all pool the tip so the back counter staff can get their fair share??? Dont think so I used to work at a busy Embassy Suites we had a full service bar & restaurant as well as large banquet functions, weddings etc... At the end of the night/shift we would give the bussers/dishwashers a cut of our tips. I also worked the complimentary bar that we offered for 2 hours every night where I usually made between $100 and $200 dollars. One of the dishwashers would usually help me bus tables and grab ice, at the end of the shift I usually gave him $20-$50 depending on how busy I was. and you think that is SOP for all restaurants ?? I don't know... but you probably don't either...I'm sure that there are restaurants that have allocation procedures in place and others that don't. The one's that don't would hopefully pay the dishwashers etc the going rate for washing dishes (likely minimum wage).*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #57 March 2, 2010 Tip out or Tip Share is SOP and required at every Restaurant I have ever worked at. (Granted it has been over 15 years since I did) but my daughter has a Part time job now waiting tables and She is still required to Tip-out at the end of the night. Tipout usually goes to Bussers and Bar Staff. Tip out is paid to the House (usually again based off Total Sales from each waiter) and distributed by the house to the Support staff according to Position and Hours worked. At least that is way it worked when I work for some larger Restaurant chains back in college. The wait staff has no choice. They MUST pay tip out. So again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #58 March 3, 2010 QuoteTip out or Tip Share is SOP and required at every Restaurant I have ever worked at. (Granted it has been over 15 years since I did) but my daughter has a Part time job now waiting tables and She is still required to Tip-out at the end of the night. Tipout usually goes to Bussers and Bar Staff. Tip out is paid to the House (usually again based off Total Sales from each waiter) and distributed by the house to the Support staff according to Position and Hours worked. At least that is way it worked when I work for some larger Restaurant chains back in college. The wait staff has no choice. They MUST pay tip out. So again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I wasn't aware of the "tip-out" process. I stand corrected, my wife and i have had a couple of conversations regarding back counter staff and tips, I'm glad they get something.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #59 March 3, 2010 Quote The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I'm older than you i cant be your sonYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 122 #60 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhen the tip is computed it is very tempting to automatically deduct about 1/3 to make up for the taxes I'm paying because, in general, they are not reporting the income. This was almost always the case when we were primarily a cash world. Now that everything goes on plastic more and more restaurants and bars are going to paycheck payroll and not handing out cash at the end of the night. So now, all tips are being reported. Mic - agree, there are some places that do thisGive one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #61 March 3, 2010 Quote Quote The system does suck but I dont see it changing anytime son. I'm older than you i cant be your son Remember, that is Thanatos340 you're speaking to. The only man on the planet with more testosterone is Chuck Norris. In other words, he COULD be your daddy!What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpslo 0 #62 March 3, 2010 It better be $1.00!!! (seeing as I make my rent and bills as a bartender!) "Good rule of thumb; is what you are doing the EASIEST for You? Because if it is, it ain't going to work for the people around you." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #63 March 3, 2010 QuoteSo again.. If you stiff a waiter, They pay Taxes on money they did not get and they Pay Tip out to other support staff on money they didnt get. That is why some of them get a little feisty when people under tip or dont tip at all. Not really. QuoteAn employer must pay at least $2.13 per hour. However, if an employee's tips combined with the employer's wage of $2.13 per hour do not equal the hourly minimum wage, the employer is required to make up the difference. http://www.dol.gov/wb/faq26.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillstalker 0 #64 March 3, 2010 depends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true!"Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #65 March 3, 2010 Quotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmills0705 0 #66 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.[/reply So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me.Kim Mills USPA D21696 Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #67 March 3, 2010 Quote... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. the beggary is much more insidious - imagine if the server got paid at the soup - then got paid at the appetizer, then got paid - etc etc etc a 2 dollar appetizer (15%) tip is 30 cents, what the hell, here's a buck..... multiply by the number of courses....... kind of like boiling a frog ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #68 March 3, 2010 It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kmills0705 0 #69 March 3, 2010 Quote It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Kinda proves you men are superficial and we aren't. And I think women tip better than men in general. At least sadly to say it seems that way. As I said I have never worked in this industry so pure speculation.Kim Mills USPA D21696 Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #70 March 3, 2010 Yes we men are superficial but we are comfortable with it. Women tend to be just as superficial but are not comfortable with it. Hence why guy bartenders don't tend to make as much as their female counterparts. But yes women do tip more then men at restaurants. That's due to women being more understanding and can relate to the waitress. God knows I could. My last relationship....shit I was that girls butler. But that's a different thread.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #71 March 3, 2010 It depends on the bartender, the drinks, the kind of day they're having, and the kind of day I'm having. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrewEckhardt 0 #72 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.[/reply So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. When my wife and I go out for dinner and have a drink at the bar first, the bar tender gets $2 for seeing us twice ($1 per) and the wait person gets $10-$20 for seeing us 5-6 times ($1.67 - $4 per). For like amounts of service, the waiter is getting paid more although the percentage is less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #73 March 3, 2010 Quote So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. It's because the bartender is usually a man, honey.>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thrillstalker 0 #74 March 3, 2010 Quote Quote It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Kinda proves you men are superficial and we aren't. And I think women tip better than men in general. At least sadly to say it seems that way. As I said I have never worked in this industry so pure speculation. honestly, i tip according to service, this doesnt apply so much to a bartender because you go to them. if its a beer, he/she gets a dollar, mixed drink at least 2 dollars. not a bad tip seeing is they just had to turn around and grab a beer. it would be rude to give someone less than a dollar so the whole % thing doesnt come into play with a single drink from a bartender like it does with a waitress."Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #75 March 3, 2010 Are you people fucking pissed? For fuick sake, sort your system out!! Pay people a living wage and cut this begging tipping shite out already - you're one fuck up nation (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 3 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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rehmwa 2 #67 March 3, 2010 Quote... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. the beggary is much more insidious - imagine if the server got paid at the soup - then got paid at the appetizer, then got paid - etc etc etc a 2 dollar appetizer (15%) tip is 30 cents, what the hell, here's a buck..... multiply by the number of courses....... kind of like boiling a frog ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #68 March 3, 2010 It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmills0705 0 #69 March 3, 2010 Quote It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Kinda proves you men are superficial and we aren't. And I think women tip better than men in general. At least sadly to say it seems that way. As I said I have never worked in this industry so pure speculation.Kim Mills USPA D21696 Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #70 March 3, 2010 Yes we men are superficial but we are comfortable with it. Women tend to be just as superficial but are not comfortable with it. Hence why guy bartenders don't tend to make as much as their female counterparts. But yes women do tip more then men at restaurants. That's due to women being more understanding and can relate to the waitress. God knows I could. My last relationship....shit I was that girls butler. But that's a different thread.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #71 March 3, 2010 It depends on the bartender, the drinks, the kind of day they're having, and the kind of day I'm having. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #72 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotedepends on how much the tab is and depends on how hot she is (assuming it is a she). sexist but true! I DIDN'T WRITE THIS! But I agree. That being said on average per beer I give $1+change. so if it were say $2.50 I would give $1.50 per drink if it were a simple draft. Not for mixed drink it's $2+change. If there is food than the usual %15. Long story short, tip well tip often.[/reply So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. When my wife and I go out for dinner and have a drink at the bar first, the bar tender gets $2 for seeing us twice ($1 per) and the wait person gets $10-$20 for seeing us 5-6 times ($1.67 - $4 per). For like amounts of service, the waiter is getting paid more although the percentage is less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #73 March 3, 2010 Quote So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. It's because the bartender is usually a man, honey.>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thrillstalker 0 #74 March 3, 2010 Quote Quote It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Kinda proves you men are superficial and we aren't. And I think women tip better than men in general. At least sadly to say it seems that way. As I said I have never worked in this industry so pure speculation. honestly, i tip according to service, this doesnt apply so much to a bartender because you go to them. if its a beer, he/she gets a dollar, mixed drink at least 2 dollars. not a bad tip seeing is they just had to turn around and grab a beer. it would be rude to give someone less than a dollar so the whole % thing doesnt come into play with a single drink from a bartender like it does with a waitress."Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #75 March 3, 2010 Are you people fucking pissed? For fuick sake, sort your system out!! Pay people a living wage and cut this begging tipping shite out already - you're one fuck up nation (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 3 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
JohnMitchell 14 #73 March 3, 2010 Quote So... just out of curiosity (and I have never worked in the food industry in my life)... why do the bartenders get upwards of 60% tip but the person serving you a meal only gets 15%. This defies logic to me. It's because the bartender is usually a man, honey.>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillstalker 0 #74 March 3, 2010 Quote Quote It has to do with the price of the product and how it's distributed. If your waiter gave your meal one part at a time with a bill you would tip more. A bartender gives you a drink at a time, thus the $1.50 tip for the $2.50 tip. Also let's be honest and I hate to be a realist about this, but if a girl were good looking and wanted to make good money why be a waitress? Sadly the same can not be said about us guys. The day you women tip us as well as we tip you due to your looks....what a great day that will be Kinda proves you men are superficial and we aren't. And I think women tip better than men in general. At least sadly to say it seems that way. As I said I have never worked in this industry so pure speculation. honestly, i tip according to service, this doesnt apply so much to a bartender because you go to them. if its a beer, he/she gets a dollar, mixed drink at least 2 dollars. not a bad tip seeing is they just had to turn around and grab a beer. it would be rude to give someone less than a dollar so the whole % thing doesnt come into play with a single drink from a bartender like it does with a waitress."Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #75 March 3, 2010 Are you people fucking pissed? For fuick sake, sort your system out!! Pay people a living wage and cut this begging tipping shite out already - you're one fuck up nation (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
