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Bunch of fucking sissies!

Ask Divot - they even molested and hugged him in the elevator . . .
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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One of these day's I'll figure out why I didn't get my ass kicked. Gotta give props though, rugby is cool. Wish that I had been exposed to the sport when I was younger..by now I could be in a coma with tubes running out of me.
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Can't say either really do it for me...

On one hand you have dudes in tights who look like spinning-tops when in uniform, and on the other hand you have grown men who wear shorts that are shorter than Beyonce's and tend to spend more time holding onto other men on the field than they do their wives.

I'm not judging, it's just a tad too homoerotic for me :)

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It's too bad the only real movie about rugby in the past...(at least in america) Invictus...just portrayed Rugby to be confusing for the general public and didn't really elaborate on any of the rules. Besides I bet you can get one of the best rugby players in the world and he probably couldn't do shit in American football and vice versa. If you think you can line up in the slot...run at full speed across the middle...catch a pass and get hit at full speed by a defensive back (like Ed Reed). Go ahead and tell me how you feel afterwards.

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It's too bad the only real movie about rugby in the past...(at least in america) Invictus...just portrayed Rugby to be confusing for the general public and didn't really elaborate on any of the rules. Besides I bet you can get one of the best rugby players in the world and he probably couldn't do shit in American football and vice versa. If you think you can line up in the slot...run at full speed across the middle...catch a pass and get hit at full speed by a defensive back (like Ed Reed). Go ahead and tell me how you feel afterwards.


Dude that's called being a Front row forward in Rugby:D:D:D:D
I would happily put any top line Rugby (Union OR League)player against ANY Gridiron player.
Only caveat is the Gridiron player HAS to play Defense AND offense,for the ENTIRE game. not pussy out from either.
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You make it sound like every single play and every single hit is like in the second video...obviously not the first cause all I saw was a bunch of dudes frothing at the mouth. I'm not taking anything away from rugby. I know its a very rugged sport. But if you think American football is for a bunch of pussies. Then you don't know shit about American Football.

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It's too bad the only real movie about rugby in the past...(at least in america) Invictus...just portrayed Rugby to be confusing for the general public and didn't really elaborate on any of the rules. Besides I bet you can get one of the best rugby players in the world and he probably couldn't do shit in American football and vice versa. If you think you can line up in the slot...run at full speed across the middle...catch a pass and get hit at full speed by a defensive back (like Ed Reed). Go ahead and tell me how you feel afterwards.




getting hit at full speed in football after catching a pass is VERY rare, usually the defensive guy is running WITH the receiver, so the hit is only his speed, which is marginally faster than the receivers speed, minuse the speed the receiver is running, basically most receivers are drug down, not slammed from the other direction like you are inferring. the only guy who takes hits like that on a close to regular basis is the QB. and that only happens when the line fails.

bottom line both sports are tough as hell, but football players still wear pads, rugby players dont.
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I'm not judging, it's just a tad too homoerotic for me :)



ah the ole 'im too much of a poof to play so ill call them gay' cop out

i like american football alot and recently saw my first live game in giants stadium was a great experience


but

rugby is the best sport in the world, even the local league games were i live back home have such a great atmosphere and energy, cant beat it

edit; also it helps when your country is one of the best teams in the world at the moment

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Dude that's called being a Front row forward in RugbyLaughLaughLaughLaugh
I would happily put any top line Rugby (Union OR League)player against ANY Gridiron player.
Only caveat is the Gridiron player HAS to play Defense AND offense,for the ENTIRE game. not pussy out from either.



Ever watch Dhani Jones Tackles the Globe? He is a Linebacker for the Bengals. He goes around and world and plays different sports. One episode he played Rugby with some team in the UK. I cant remember the name of the team, but seemed like they were the real deal. He didnt do to bad at all. At really put some good hits on those guys. They are both great sports, with a lot in common actually, but i promise you that an NFL receiver crossing the middle and getting creamed head on by a linebacker or safety running full speed is a lot harder of a hit then most in rugby. Not all, but most. There is a reason they wear pads and helmets in the NFL....and no it isn't because they are pussies.
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bottom line both sports are tough as hell, but football players still wear pads, rugby players dont.

Says something about the general I.Q. of each sport, doesn't it?:P

The only sport more equipment intensive than football must be skydiving. I used to hate running in all those pads on a hot Texas day.:S:D

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I used to play in school.. Before I realized I'm not the kind to measure penises in the change room.

I love sport, just not those two. I come from South Africa, so rugby is pretty much mandatory. Though in South Africa, being a jock with the IQ of a brick is also.

But my sentiments stand that there is entirely too much man-groping from homoerotic 'macho macho man' guys. At least that's how it is in South Africa, and since we're two time world champions, we must be doing it the right way ;)

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bottom line both sports are tough as hell, but football players still wear pads, rugby players dont.

Says something about the general I.Q. of each sport, doesn't it?:P

The only sport more equipment intensive than football must be skydiving. I used to hate running in all those pads on a hot Texas day.:S:D


EXACTLY! no way id run around in pads, in that kinda heat. id rather risk the hits, haha :ph34r:
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Dude that's called being a Front row forward in RugbyLaughLaughLaughLaugh
I would happily put any top line Rugby (Union OR League)player against ANY Gridiron player.
Only caveat is the Gridiron player HAS to play Defense AND offense,for the ENTIRE game. not pussy out from either.



Ever watch Dhani Jones Tackles the Globe? He is a Linebacker for the Bengals. He goes around and world and plays different sports. One episode he played Rugby with some team in the UK. I cant remember the name of the team, but seemed like they were the real deal. He didnt do to bad at all. At really put some good hits on those guys. They are both great sports, with a lot in common actually, but i promise you that an NFL receiver crossing the middle and getting creamed head on by a linebacker or safety running full speed is a lot harder of a hit then most in rugby. Not all, but most. There is a reason they wear pads and helmets in the NFL....and no it isn't because they are pussies.



gotta agree even though i love rugby but there is a pretty straightforward reason for it

that linebackers entire reason for existing is to hit players and the harder the better. he dosnt have to train to be fast so he can score touchdowns or practice kicking. everything he does he does so he can hit hard. everything the wide receiver does he does so he can sprint and catch and i guess to some extent to take a hit

in rugby the players dont have the luxury to train for such specific roles. if a forward gets the ball and breaks the gain line he has to have the stamina to sprint the length of the pitch and score the try. then on the very next play he might have to take down a 6'7 250lb guy who is running full belt at him.

the scrum half can get concussion on minute 79 and be expected to kick a penalty from half way line to win the game on minute 80

american football players are hard as nails and in some individual positions they will be bigger tougher and harder hitting then your average rugby player but if you average it all out on the team as a hole the rugby team will have bigger stronger and fitter players because they all have to be american football players dont all have to be

also i think there is more passion and loyalty in rugby players for two reasons

1) its nowhere near as commercialised as the nfl and there is nowhere near as much money in it

2) the top level competition is international level not one domestic league. players dont get paid to play for their country, they do it for pride and glory and this shows and the fans react to it.

one of my greatest rugby moments was seeing my heroes line up for the national anthem in croke park(a massive stadium in ireland which has a lot of history relating to the british and the troubles) with the english team lined up on the other side for the first ever rugby game there.

the entire team was in tears they were so overcome with pride during the national anthem and then we go onto to destroy the english in the game it was a magical moment and i dont think you get that in a sport that is as commercialised and domestic as american football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX4ka-5j2vU

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It's too bad the only real movie about rugby in the past...(at least in america) Invictus...just portrayed Rugby to be confusing for the general public and didn't really elaborate on any of the rules. Besides I bet you can get one of the best rugby players in the world and he probably couldn't do shit in American football and vice versa. If you think you can line up in the slot...run at full speed across the middle...catch a pass and get hit at full speed by a defensive back (like Ed Reed). Go ahead and tell me how you feel afterwards.


Dude that's called being a Front row forward in Rugby:D:D:D:D
I would happily put any top line Rugby (Union OR League)player against ANY Gridiron player.
Only caveat is the Gridiron player HAS to play Defense AND offense,for the ENTIRE game. not pussy out from either.


AND not wear body amour and makeup

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I used to play in school.. Before I realized I'm not the kind to measure penises in the change room.



imaybe if your team concentrated on playing instead of getting their dicks out in the dressing room you might have had more success :p

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At least that's how it is in South Africa, and since we're two time world champions, we must be doing it the right way ;)



one year away and we will be in new zealand taking that crown away form ya ;)

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The reason U.S. football players wear pads and helmets is so smaller guys can play on the same field as bigger guys. If not for the gear the smaller running backs and offensive ends wouldn't last five minutes. And if everyone was big it would be a very different and much more boring game.

NickD :)

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So what's with the make-up on the cheeks then:P

and what's with plays last 2 seconds and then having to stop for a rest and change the team.. aren't they fit enough to play a whole game? :P


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I am by no means a Rugby expert...but I can play the hell out of it in a video game. :D:D

i dont understand all the rules, but to me it is (in American Football terms) one big sweep to the left or right. The other thing about Rugby hits is that I see a lot (in fact most) of them are more tackles from the side and not full on head up full speed smashes into each other. I do agree that Rugby players are probably more fit at, least when it comes to cardio. They do a LOT more running compared to the full speed sprints that Football players do. They (rugby players) are kinda of a cross between soccer players and football players.

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The only sport more equipment intensive than football must be skydiving.

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The football players can take off their equipment and call it rugby. We take off our equipment and it's called suicide.

I remember a T-Shirt that said, "Rugby players eat thier dead." And I don't think it just meant the plane crash. ;)

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i dont understand all the rules, but to me it is (in American Football terms) one big sweep to the left or right. The other thing about Rugby hits is that I see a lot (in fact most) of them are more tackles from the side and not full on head up full speed smashes into each other. I do agree that Rugby players are probably more fit at, least when it comes to cardio. They do a LOT more running compared to the full speed sprints that Football players do. They (rugby players) are kinda of a cross between soccer players and football players.



In terms of endurance, there's no probably about it, it's night and day.

An American football player, in any position, cannot train to have the same fitness level as a rugby player because he does not need it, and it getting it he would have to sacrifice part of the bulk/power/strength/speed (delete as appropriate for each position) that makes him good at what he does. I'd love to see one of those really big steroided up fat guys (tackles?) run even a couple of lengths of the pitch.

The rugby player needs that endurance, because he's on the field all the time and the play is much more continuous. He could train for brute power like an AFer, and he'd be very effective for the first 20 minutes of the game but he'd be useless in the later stages.
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