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It just adds additional uncontrolled risk. Anyone can agree with that. If you eat it while doing it it's less surprising than a solo belly jump/straight in approach. Even still, that belly jump has some amount of uncontrolled risk just as the drive to the DZ and the steak you ate tonight that might give you a heart attack one day. Live and let die -- if you jump and your family would be heartbroken to lose you to something you love; maybe they are too greedy. Or maybe you are... Jeff

No I disagree - you're treating it like a SAT logic game but it's really not. We are segmenting fatalities out by whether our not an element of additional uncontrolled risk was introduced at some point during the dive. If you hold constant the routine risks such as slow and high speed mals + dealing with them in addition to the plane crashing, collisions on straight in approaches, low pulls, etc...has anything changed? I understand one is a subset of the other I'm just reframing the argument along the cleanest lines possible. If you want to be cute you can add janitors, investment bankers, astronauts and fat bakery men to the word substitution game being played, maybe the bon fire is a good place to post? Jeff

What's the year by year # if we don't count swoopers. They could have avoided death by not swooping. Practically speaking - they create needless uncontrolled risk that distorts the trend.

Jumpsuit or shorts?

I'd like to see someone flare with their eyes closed and land.

biplane coming through?

That's an amazing video. Def past peak foliage up there now. I'm sure you're going to be very aware now. Jeff

Maybe I'm missing something but what the heck is a little bungee going to actually accomplish? I have the thing and it's like a shoelace...how could that save my 'ass' from going through, literally. Thanks, Jeff

pencil jump?

I weight 185 with clothing and shoes. Started off with a Pilot 210 can handle it well. Jumped by buddy's Pilot 190 10 times and felt a tad quicker but OK. Bought a Pilot 168 (1.2x wingload) jumped in no wind and couldn't stand it up reliable so went back to the 210. Had I been able to jump daily for a few weeks and get some coaching I think I'd have stuck with it but I jump infrequently enough to much rather jump the 210. Don't see when I'd want to go past the 168 though for sure...better safe than sorry. Have had all in a mirage m5 container. 210 is TIGHT

Skydiving is the king of all novelties, in the 'real world'. It's a privilege to be in 'jumpable' shape. Guard your health and protect it vigorously so you can jump again in a few months, not make the same mistakes and enjoy walking around safely on 2 feet! Anything obsessed over loses value. Worry about your leg, rehab, strengthening it and start working out before you hit the sky again. One bad landing or tunnel wipe out and you'll have innumerable problems as you age. Skydiving can be like full contact football without pads or a referee. Get ready for the rush, not the soft landing into a steady wind. My 2 cents.

BASE jumpers are the coolest guys around..they jump big, doscile canopies.

try to get a cheap alti 2 and an audible.

My next rig will have a skyhook.

I used the UPT vector demo rig with belly mount reserve. Was pretty straightforward just don't lose the main (chop over the right spot).

nice 'electronic' - should've said 'hope I never find out how it works'

Carried my rig at least 7 times never even thought to take it off/was never noticed. I don't think it's actually dangerous - more like a brass knuckle than a blade IMO.

true - you'd see them look to the left which indicates they're about to lie. If they say throw out say "nice, you have the mirage eh?". I'm sure they'd oblige. Sort of like Howard Stern in Harlem last election season.

I'm not trying to make a logic class out of this I am simply saying that the majority of deaths happen to people one would never consider 'ratting out'. I don't think many jumpers are on a 'collision course' in this sport they are simply jumping. This is like a witch trial of sorts, I think. I am all for spotting stupid shit and god bless but these situations are really in the minority of the bad press this sport gets. All I'm sayin. J

That's one interpretation for sure. I think what I said was still valid though and worth considering in this context, that's really it. I bet that pilot that killed a dozen people at the air show never expected that to happen. No one tattled on him though.

The irony is many safe people that would rat others out just haven't had 'their moment'. Don't be deceived by low odds scenarios.

throw out or pullout

Go to Florida and do AFF, don't wait.

She's trying to steal his rig!

When, where, how long, link?