NightJumper

It doesn't matter what you "think" because it is a fact. What if cows could fly? What if.... is nothing more than individual speculations and have nothing to do with the present reality. Or do you believe that the fact that it has been here for 50 years is a fallacy? Maybe it will be changed in the future, who knows, but that is not now and what is now. Stay safe, Mike

Yes, that is one of Nancy's new rigs. The one you saw a Rantoul was an old one.

I was wondering when you would show up. But it did. Regardless if they addressed it directly or not the result is that the pledge is still intact and constitutional as it is presently written.

Stay safe, Mike

Actually it did. If you are going to challenge something take it in its entirety and not pull out parts. If you read the entire link (CNN) that I posted, the complete article is correct and what you are trying to challenge is the first paragraph summation.

I did, I even referenced the link to the rest of the article. And yes it is still constitutional and binding until the court rules otherwise.

Yeap: 100% of the senate, 99% of the House and 90% of the public! I would say that is a pretty strong message.

Even though I know where you are going with this, it does by the way you asked your question since they both activate your reserve. Even though they perform differently the end result is the same....deployment of the reserve.

The Supreme Court at least temporarily preserved the phrase "one nation, under God," in the Pledge of Allegiance, ruling Monday that a California atheist could not challenge the patriotic oath while stepping the broader question of separation of church and state. See more here:http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/14/scotus.pledge.case.ap/index.html

That would be sheep misskriss!

No, they are no more difficult or easier than any other rig. It is a matter of training and currency. We offer free Racer rigger training at every event we go to and also at the factory (90 in the last year). We even provide a complete set of manuals on CD, tools and a t-shirt. It is just like anything else, if you know how to do it, it is easy. As for taking longer, that again is skill level. There was a rigger at a DZ that said that he could pack a XXX rig faster than I could ever pack a racer.......it took him nine min. longer which gave me time to pick the restaurant that he was buying dinner at! Stay safe, Mike

Bill, If you read my post I agree with the 180 proposal.

There is a new group in negotiation with the county but the county is getting ready to demolish the existing building to put up a new one and they are trying to work something out. I think the new name is going to be something like "Big Water Skydiving".

You are quoting me wrong again, I said skydive not jump, there is a difference by both definition and by law. And what if you don’t hit the dirt and hit someone else and kill them? Look up the word “potential” in the dictionary and quit trying to put a spin on the question. Again your answer had nothing to do with my response as I was not addressing the time issue.

ding ding ding......we have a winner!

I believe that Space Coast offers tandems from 18,000' and there is another DZ that offers tandems from 30,000'.

What the heck does BASE jumping have to do with skydiving and this thread "6 month plus reserve repack cycles"? Again, nice try but different subject. But like I have said before, since every skydive has the potential to effect someone else it is not about protecting you from yourself it is about protecting everyone. If that is the case then why would you want to make the law less restrictive thereby increasing the likelihood of more malfunctions? Who is “we”? You may do this, I don't. Everyone at my business that operates in that capacity is a certified rigger. Again who is "we"? I have a 40' table. But there is no requirement that I have to use it. The regulations (section 65.127) states that it only has to be "available" and yes I do use it all of the time when I pack rounds.

A “fact” is truth. The numbers who buy are irrelevant to my statement since I did not address that, but nice try. My statement was “There will always be people that will buy because of “convenience” regardless of the quality.” I am not, however the FAA, USPA, industry and the skydiving public as a whole have. And yes I believe the FAA, USPA, industry and the skydiving public have worked hard to have safety standards that protect everyone since every skydive has the potential to effect someone else. To think otherwise is arrogant and irresponsible. I am complying with the rules, the question is since you oppose that, since that is what I believe, what are you doing? And I suppose that if “they” want to jump a rig without a reserve because that is what their “level of safety they are comfortable with” that “they” should be allowed to? Remember that it was you that said “Personally I'd like to see the period fixed by either the gear manufacturers (who know better than the FAA what sort of maintenance their gear needs) or have it left up to the owners, with the exception of rental, student and tandem rigs.” This is one of the reasons that we have the rules and laws to protect everyone in general. Being a good skydiver does not make you a good rigger. Remember that every skydive has the potential of effecting someone else!

Formally vs. informally is merely semantics. There is a big difference between your sentence above supporting a longer repack cycle across the board ie. 180 days (which I agree with) vs. your statement that your think it should be left up to the individual manufactures, which is what I responded to. It is not “nonsense”, it is fact. There will always be people that will buy because of “convenience” regardless of the quality.

It is relative to the size of the container. Anything under 350 cu. in. uses a 4" pop-top, anything over uses a 6".

I bet that you won't think it is that funny when you remember that I pack your reserve!

I had bone from my pelvis put in my neck and have never had a problem in five years.

If this is a silly argument then why did the industry reject it when you presented it in the past? Do you really think that you are smarter than the industry as a whole? Within the rules and laws that they are governed by which is my point that this should continue. The same could be said about bicycles, cars, boats, planes, trains etc. And using what you said above lets stop making any sport, military or tandem rigs from every manufacture because they have all had someone die using them. Using that analogy why don’t we just do away with all of the laws and rules and do nothing to protect the consumer. There has to be some level of protection. And their choice is guided within the guidelines that the industry has to follow which again is what I am talking about. Everyone starts out at a certain level and then at this point it is basically a choice of options, service, price and availability. Are you saying that if Javelin went to a 180 day repack cycle it would be a “piece of shit”? And no I wouldn’t, but that is my point in being proactive to try and keep that from occurring in the first place. Once again I am glad the industry disagrees.

Bill, you know better than anyone since you have addressed this issue before with the manufactures that this is a bad idea since it would allow gear manufactures to use this as an marketing advantage (buy our container it only has to have the reserve repacked every two years!). Just like aircraft maintenance this is an area that needs to be regulated as it keeps everything consistent.