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SO what's up with this ramdom search shit?

Hey, I just saw some very graphic pic's of the way Iraqi prisoners are being treated by their American captors. Can't wait for the fallout, I don't think boy's will be boy's is going to cut it this time. blues jerry

Just saw on 60 minutes a story about American torchering Iraqi prisoners, that should make you happy.

The real question is did Kerry lie to congress or did he actually believe what he was saying. I don't think Kerry would have bought into a communist organization if he saw it for what it was. blues jerry

Dude you left out Tricky Dicky, why don't you compare Dubya's lack of judgment with Kerry's in 1971? Lets see how'd it go back than.Hell no we won't go! or Driving that train high on cocaine.

In rural Oregon curves ahead and stop were hunted like an endangered spices. It sure seemed like good sport at the time. blues jerry

Maybe it wasn't a good idea to help them out, but don't act like RR was aiding and abetting the enemy. However, by the 90s, SH and OBL were obvious enemies. Have you conveniently forgotten OBL being offered up to Clinton? Or Clinton giving SH reprieve after reprieve? Your double standards are showing. --------------------------------------------------------------- All things considered RR did let the genie out of the bottle, Most American would agree that Bush1 had the support of the American people to go after SH in Gulf 1. I'm sure he had ample opportunity to go for OBL as well. Why didn't Clinton get OBL, I don't know. OTOH SH was doing fine stewing in his own juices and never was a threat.

Back in the day anyone with their drawers hanging out of their pants got a wedgie. The real problem is the girlyfied jocks of today aren't doing their job. blues jerry

You have PROOF he lied? Or are you just lying? Cause Like I have said before if you can PROVE he lied...Then I'll do what I can to impeach him...And unless you can PROVE it...Then when you say he lied...You are lying. Again got PROOF he lied...Or are you lying? Good send the chicken shit slimeball fuckers to jail. Several different people have counted those ballots...And they all said the same thing..Bush won..Get over it. How about them Dems trying to throw out the military votes huh? As a military guy that almost didn't get my vote counted I think THAT was Bull Shit. Cause Kerry will do whatever it takes to secure himself more power....Kerry has tried to follow in the footsteps of his hero JFK....I would bet Kerry will not stop the Iraq situation.. And quite frankly I don't trust Dems when it comes to matters of National Security...Clinton fucked up really well by ignoring SH and OBL....If he had done his job all of this would not have happend. ------------------------------------------------------------------And quite frankly I don't trust Dems when it comes to matters of National Security... You know Ron that is just a fantastic statement considering everything that Ronnie Raygun did to coddle SH and OBL in the 80's, not to mention the fine job Bush1 did letting SH go in the 90's. For your information the biggest terrorist attack on American soil in history, wasn't on Clinton's watch. Jerry

Suck my dick probably won't go over too well so make it something PC.

Well atleast it 's not Clinton putting the kids in the coffins and it's one less vote for Bush.

The Silhouette is a really sweet canopy (I double dog dare you guys that haven't tried it yet to put a jump on it!) - it opens sweet, flies fun and lands beautifully. I would agree with you Kolla, the Silhouette's got to be one of the most underated canopy out there. Craichead, I have 150 jumps on the saber2 190, and I loaded it at about 1.3 from the start. I don't know anyone who has pounded in more landings than I have. The saber2 does fly at a good clip, and has enough flar that it will pick you back up if you flar too much too soon. I can offer a couple of tips that helped me on this canopy. Pat Works has written a nice article thats worth a read posted under safety. And the advice that helped me the most, when landing keep your hands together in front of your body also once you flar if the canopy picks you up a little bit keep those toggles down you are already committed to landing. I would agree with others that waiting for a specific wind condition to be able to land in is not doing yourself any favors. Good luck blue skies jerry

I'll relate my experience and you can take it for what it's worth. My ordeal begin over a two month period and got to the point where I couldn't hardly walk. I later determined my problem was caused by uneven shoe wear. A doctor put me on vicoden and 3200 millagram of Ibpropen a day, after two months I weaned myself off the vicoden and started getting off the Ibpropen it took nearly a year. pain free. OTOH I got a friend that went under the knife and after 5 operations it never got better and never will. Try and work it out first, and be prepared for it to take a while. good luck jerry

Over my head too. blues jerry

John,you know thats not the same thing as making a cold med more difficult to obtain. Here in Oregon they are doing the same thing as Oklahoma with out the law. Some cold meds are over the counter you have to ask for them, no one takes your name. Really what you have is a state (Oklahoma)with a lack of common sense.

You show your ID when you buy booze or any prescription med along with host of other things. None of you guys have demonstrated how the government is going to use this information against you. I say the only people who have to worry are the people who are causing the problem.

>This is just one of the many ways that the government is keeping tabs on you personally. I don't think the government gives a rats ass about how many sudafeds I take aslong as I not buying 90 packages at a time. Making sudafed a controlled substance would involve the FDA and probably doesn't fit the criteria of a controlled substance. However this product has a proven track record of abuse. How would you fix it? >And as far as this story is concerned, do you really think that this is going to stop the production of meth? If you have to show ID to buy it you'll do one of many things to circumvent that little piece of "protection" I think it will certainly slow it down, until the drug companies get onboard and offer the product in a form that can't be abused. I don't look for the law banging down my door anytime soon. blues jerry

I would agree, the British took land they didn't own and gave it to someone that didn't live there. I have a feeling that Arabs have long memories. The current problems in Iraq are what? You have a leader with people willing to follow him, who could probably restore oder in the region where he lives. Too bad he's a reglious fanatic, and wouldn't work for the rest of the country. The problem is getting all the people in Iraq on the same page without the threatening to kill them. Their fresh out of dictators, maybe the UN can help. blues jerry

Here's some more... LIE: "We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We are concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs [unmanned aerial vehicles] for missions targeting the United States." - President Bush, Oct. 7. TRUTH: Said drones can't fly more than 300 miles, and Iraq is 6,000 miles from the U.S. coastline. Furthermore, Iraq's drone-building program wasn't much more advanced than your average model plane enthusiast. And isn't a "manned aerial vehicle" just a scary way to say "plane"? In fact I'll even provide a link to all of Bushes Lies. http://www.pantsonfire.net/lies.htm blues jerry Proud supporter of Show George the Door.

You are right, I do not get it. I refuse to believe business owners would find it a hassle or a loss to get meth users off the street. My heart bleeds for the drug manufacturer, who might see a slight drop in sales. blues jery

Looks like Iraq was the target right from the get go. Bush Secretly Ordered Iraq War Plan, Book Says War Plan on Iraq Drawn Up Soon After U.S. Forces Entered Afghanistan By CALVIN WOODWARD and SIOBHAN McDONOUGH, AP AP President Bush announces attacks on Taliban regime in Afghanistan in October, 2001. A month later he reportedly asked Donald Rumsfeld for a plan for Iraq. WASHINGTON (April 16) - President Bush secretly ordered a war plan drawn up against Iraq less than two months after U.S. forces attacked Afghanistan and was so worried the decision would cause a furor he did not tell everyone on his national security team, says a new book on his Iraq policy. Bush feared that if news got out about the Iraq plan as U.S. forces were fighting another conflict, people would think he was too eager for war, journalist Bob Woodward writes in "Plan of Attack," a behind-the-scenes account of the 16 months leading to the Iraq invasion. The Associated Press obtained a copy of the book, which will be available in book stores next week. "I knew what would happen if people thought we were developing a potential war plan for Iraq," Bush is quoted as telling Woodward. "It was such a high-stakes moment and ... it would look like that I was anxious to go to war. And I'm not anxious to go to war." "I knew what would happen if people thought we were developing a potential war plan for Iraq." -President Bush, as quoted in "Plan of Attack" Bush and his aides have denied accusations they were preoccupied with Iraq at the cost of paying attention to the al-Qaida terrorist threat before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. A commission investigating the attacks just concluded several weeks of extraordinary public testimony from high-ranking government officials. One of them, former counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke, charged the Bush administration's determination to invade Iraq undermined the war on terror. Woodward's account fleshes out the degree to which some members of the administration, particularly Vice President Dick Cheney, were focused on Saddam Hussein from the onset of Bush's presidency and even after the terrorist attacks made the destruction of al-Qaida the top priority. Woodward says Bush pulled Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld aside Nov. 21, 2001 - when U.S. forces and allies were in control of about half of Afghanistan - and asked him what kind of war plan he had on Iraq. When Rumsfeld said it was outdated, Bush told him to get started on a fresh one. The book says Bush told Rumsfeld to keep quiet about it and when the defense secretary asked to bring CIA Director George Tenet into the planning at some point, the president said not to do so yet. Even Bush's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, was apparently not fully briefed. Woodward said Bush told her that morning he was having Rumsfeld work on Iraq but did not give details. In an interview two years later, Bush told Woodward that if the news had leaked, it would have caused "enormous international angst and domestic speculation." The Bush administration's drive toward war with Iraq raised an international furor anyway, alienating long-time allies who did not believe the White House had made a sufficient case against Saddam. Saddam was toppled a year ago and taken into custody last December. But the central figure of al-Qaida, Osama bin Laden, remains at large and a threat to the west. The book says Gen. Tommy Franks, who was in charge of the Afghan war as head of Central Command, uttered a string of obscenities when the Pentagon told him to come up with an Iraq war plan in the midst of fighting another conflict. Woodward, a Washington Post journalist who wrote an earlier book on Bush's anti-terrorism campaign and broke the Watergate scandal with Carl Bernstein, says Cheney's well-known hawkish attitudes on Iraq were frequently decisive in Bush's decision-making. Cheney pressed the outgoing Clinton administration to brief Bush on the Iraq threat before he took office, Woodward writes. In August 2002, when Bush talked publicly of being a patient man who would weigh Iraqi options carefully, the vice president took the administration's Iraq policy on a harder track in a speech declaring the weapons inspections ineffective. Cheney's speech was viewed as the beginning of a campaign to undermine or overthrow Saddam. Woodward said Bush let Cheney make the speech without asking what he would say. The vice president also figured prominently in an protracted decision March 19, 2003, to strike Iraq before a 48-hour ultimatum for Saddam Hussein to leave the country had expired. When the CIA and its Iraqi sources reported that Saddam's sons and other family members were at a small palace, and Saddam was on his way to join them, Bush's top advisers debated whether to strike ahead of plan. Franks was against it, saying it was unfair to move before a deadline announced to the other side, the book says. Rumsfeld and Rice favored the early strike, and Secretary of State Colin Powell leaned that way. But Bush did not make his decision until he had cleared everyone out of the Oval Office except the vice president. "I think we ought to go for it," Cheney is quoted as saying. Bush did. U.S. forces unleashed bombs and cruise missiles, blanketing the compound but missing the palace. Tenet called the White House before dawn to say the Iraqi leader had been killed. But his optimism was premature. Saddam was alive. The 468-page book is published by Simon & Schuster More proof that there ain't no oil in Aafghanistan. And people want four more years of this bozo, give me a break! blues jerry

Well it's still an over the counter med, and it comes in other forms off the shelf. Big deal. Around here cooking meth is a cottage industry. The problem besides the users is that if someone is cooking meth in your rental property. they can contaminate the place and make for a very expensive cleanup if it's not condemned outright. I don't think anyone will be inconvenienced except the crank head. blues jerry

How about the gun that won't fire without the implant matching the owner? May not be pratical but it's a nice idea. It'll never happen.

No insult intended, but really the only people who would think this worth mentioning are the people who cook meth. Or were you going to to tie this into to a gun thread somehow? ------------------------------------------------------------------- It's amazing how many people enter a political forum, only to complain about it being full of political topics Your ultra right views are well known in post after post. No complaints here John, just stating a fact.

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