mattaman 0 #1 October 13, 2006 I see young people do really well in high adrenaline activities at about 12. Martial arts, snow boarding, skiing, shooting, football, baseball, etc. If they are trained properlyThose stuck in maya, seek to be seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #2 October 13, 2006 I would vote based on individual maturity; not age.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattaman 0 #3 October 14, 2006 Sounds goodThose stuck in maya, seek to be seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teason 0 #4 October 14, 2006 It would make sense for it to be in line with driving age. An irresposible driver can do far more damage than an irresponsible skydiver. If the person is ready for the resposibilty of driving, they should be ready for skydiving. Besides, I'd rather have an average 16 year old than an average 40-50 year old with thier extra pounds, disintergrating bones and slowed reflexes climing out of a plane. I'm only in my mid thirties and I'll be shopping for a new knee soon! It's the ravages of age!I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattaman 0 #5 October 14, 2006 Let alone all those years of denial they have, I like your line of reasoning. I'm always amazed when a 50 year old person gets to the door, shaking, white, stiff as a board, and says their not afraidThose stuck in maya, seek to be seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdfreefly 1 #6 October 16, 2006 Quote I would vote based on individual maturity; not age. You shut your mouth! We'll all be grounded! Methane Freefly - got stink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #7 October 16, 2006 Oops. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schoenauer 0 #8 October 16, 2006 None of the above, 15 years of age.Memento Mori Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pia 0 #9 October 16, 2006 I just thought back to myself at those ages and I would go with 16. I was way to daring and experimental at those ages. I 2nd the maturity thing (one day I'll get there) **Those who refuse to live and learn simply exist** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,255 #10 October 16, 2006 QuoteWhat age could the average person learn to skydive? Average people don't often skydive Seriously though, if you look at kids in motor racing they are competing in world championship events in, for instance, 125cc Motogp when they are 14-15 years old. That is dangerous stuff and requires a huge amount of skill and dedication that probably began years earlier. I don't see why those type of kids couldn't apply themselves to skydiving when they're 13 or 14.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #11 October 16, 2006 QuoteI just thought back to myself at those ages and I would go with 16. I was way to daring and experimental at those ages. I 2nd the maturity thing (one day I'll get there) were you still 16 when you went pier jumping in Durban ?? For "average" kids... well they would have to be above average anyways... 15-16, but would be better for them to already be "in the sport" for sometime, DZ kids...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pia 0 #12 October 16, 2006 QuoteQuoteI just thought back to myself at those ages and I would go with 16. I was way to daring and experimental at those ages. I 2nd the maturity thing (one day I'll get there) were you still 16 when you went pier jumping in Durban ?? Quote Unfortunately I'm the only person who can say that I hurt myself at a Boogie and it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with skydiving. **Those who refuse to live and learn simply exist** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,255 #13 October 16, 2006 QuoteUnfortunately I'm the only person who can say that I hurt myself at a Boogie and it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with skydiving. I know many people who've hurt themselves at boogies and it had nothing to do with skydiving, so believe me you're not alone there (Its the bouncy castles you need to watch out for)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lekstrom10k 0 #14 October 16, 2006 I totally agree with this reasoning. They know they are responsible for their actions.There wont be any Mommy or Daddy save me during a malfunction. Just as in a drivers ed course they are taught what can happen and how to deak with it. Mommy may pay their tickets, but cant take away the points.As earlier stated maturity has a lot to do with it and attention span. I take some Tandems I will be glad when its over walking to the plane types. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #15 October 16, 2006 QuoteI see young people do really well in high adrenaline activities at about 12. Martial arts, snow boarding, skiing, shooting, football, baseball, etc. If they are trained properly All those sports have a "shallow end of the pool." You can start of with a .22 rifle or on the bunny slope, but there is not a skydive you can make that can't kill you. With that said, I can't decide what age is best. I know some great skydivers that started as young as 14 and had the maturity to handle it. My 14 yo son would be in that group, but he'll be waiting until 16 to make a solo jump, probably. He's been around the sport long enough, though, to know the score. People off the street might still believe the marketing slogan that "Skydiving is Safe!" and sign their too young kid up, thinking it's just like swimming lessons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mattaman 0 #16 October 16, 2006 The older I get the more I want people to understand just how dangerous skydiving is. I find people practice more, treat it with more respect, and mature the more they respect how dangerous jumping out of a plane is. People who use denial to deal with this, are just flat out annoying, no matter what age.Those stuck in maya, seek to be seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #17 October 17, 2006 i'd say 16. if they can drive, they can skydive. individual maturity and fitness permitting of course MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AFFI 0 #18 October 17, 2006 Quotei'd say 16. if they can drive, they can skydive. individual maturity and fitness permitting of course I'd say raise the driving age to 18... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites packing_jarrett 0 #19 October 17, 2006 YEAH!EAH! Made my first tandem when I was 9 Started doing the static line when I turned 14. Now I'm 15 with like 350. So I'm going to say 14. Mullins started extremely young. I asked Zach and he said he started when he was 11Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #20 October 18, 2006 Quote Seriously though, if you look at kids in motor racing they are competing in world championship events in, for instance, 125cc Motogp when they are 14-15 years old. That is dangerous stuff and requires a huge amount of skill and dedication that probably began years earlier. I don't see why those type of kids couldn't apply themselves to skydiving when they're 13 or 14. Note those kids were allowed to start with smaller bikes, at slower speeds, and work their way up. By comparison they'll likely get to potentially fatal speeds on their very first freefall. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jarrodh 0 #21 October 18, 2006 Idk why I think the age for skydiving should stay at 18 and not go any lower, particularly because Im 18 now and I was dying to jump since I was about 14. As a student jumper off AFF working towards an A license I dont think 14 year olds recognize the potential consequences of skydiving and might look at it as more of a hobby then a dangerous sport. I think it is perfectly fine to allow people as young as ten to do Tandems, however to become a solo skydiver, to me, 18 sounds like the perfect balance for mental readiness and physical fitness.2 BITS....4 BITS....6 BITS....A DOLLAR!....ALL FOR THE GATORS....STAND UP AND HOLLER!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,255 #22 October 18, 2006 QuoteNote those kids were allowed to start with smaller bikes, at slower speeds, and work their way up. By comparison they'll likely get to potentially fatal speeds on their very first freefall. Most certainly. The point I'm making is more that these kids are able to be dedicated to their sport and take it as seriously as any adult (probably more seriously than a lot of muppets out on the road with R1's) at that young age. Learning to skydive is dangerous - to everyone. I don't think people give younger teenagers enough credit in not believing that they are able to properly grasp that and give skydiving (and other dangerous sports) the respect it deserves.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mattaman 0 #23 October 19, 2006 Young people in the history of the world have raised families, fought in wars, saved communities, worked harder and longer than most adults. Young people ruitinely compete at higher levels than adults in the olympics. There was a 14, I think, year old polish battle ship captain in ww2, I think thats what it was, anyway. My point is not taking into the consideration a warped legal system. But that skydiving is a great way to teach young people about responsibility, consequences, and to get real. Young people are not getting more mature, I think we're getting less. In the old days every culture on the planet had rituals that youth had to go through to become an adult, the purpose was to get them to not make bad decisions that would fuck up the tribe, like having kids when the tribe couldn't handle it, etc. Skydiving is the best way to get people to learn that they are not immortal, and that we all have fear, and covering it up is bs. When we do not instill this in people they become borderline psychotic adult children. we've plenty of them in this society. I fear those who want to benifit from these adult children, they make money off human faliure. I'm not so sure we should run away from this question, I'm not going to do underage skydiving yet, but I got into this to work with people to help them deal with fear. This is important, and I'm not sure we should allow a failed legal system to keep us from our best as a nation. I know it says skydiving is of no benifit to society on our waivers, but I think we all know this is crap, it is, and its benifited us.Those stuck in maya, seek to be seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CReW 0 #24 October 19, 2006 Yes, 18 is a good age to start driving an automobile solo. I'd say NOT before. My Son just turned 18 and just got his drivers license, his examiner said he's a fine driver. Time will tell. As for jumping I'd guess somewhere between 18 and 21 would be about right although some would never be ready. T Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 558 #25 October 23, 2006 Quote Yes, 18 is a good age to start driving an automobile solo. 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jakee 1,255 #13 October 16, 2006 QuoteUnfortunately I'm the only person who can say that I hurt myself at a Boogie and it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with skydiving. I know many people who've hurt themselves at boogies and it had nothing to do with skydiving, so believe me you're not alone there (Its the bouncy castles you need to watch out for)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lekstrom10k 0 #14 October 16, 2006 I totally agree with this reasoning. They know they are responsible for their actions.There wont be any Mommy or Daddy save me during a malfunction. Just as in a drivers ed course they are taught what can happen and how to deak with it. Mommy may pay their tickets, but cant take away the points.As earlier stated maturity has a lot to do with it and attention span. I take some Tandems I will be glad when its over walking to the plane types. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #15 October 16, 2006 QuoteI see young people do really well in high adrenaline activities at about 12. Martial arts, snow boarding, skiing, shooting, football, baseball, etc. If they are trained properly All those sports have a "shallow end of the pool." You can start of with a .22 rifle or on the bunny slope, but there is not a skydive you can make that can't kill you. With that said, I can't decide what age is best. I know some great skydivers that started as young as 14 and had the maturity to handle it. My 14 yo son would be in that group, but he'll be waiting until 16 to make a solo jump, probably. He's been around the sport long enough, though, to know the score. People off the street might still believe the marketing slogan that "Skydiving is Safe!" and sign their too young kid up, thinking it's just like swimming lessons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattaman 0 #16 October 16, 2006 The older I get the more I want people to understand just how dangerous skydiving is. I find people practice more, treat it with more respect, and mature the more they respect how dangerous jumping out of a plane is. People who use denial to deal with this, are just flat out annoying, no matter what age.Those stuck in maya, seek to be seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #17 October 17, 2006 i'd say 16. if they can drive, they can skydive. individual maturity and fitness permitting of course MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #18 October 17, 2006 Quotei'd say 16. if they can drive, they can skydive. individual maturity and fitness permitting of course I'd say raise the driving age to 18... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #19 October 17, 2006 YEAH!EAH! Made my first tandem when I was 9 Started doing the static line when I turned 14. Now I'm 15 with like 350. So I'm going to say 14. Mullins started extremely young. I asked Zach and he said he started when he was 11Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #20 October 18, 2006 Quote Seriously though, if you look at kids in motor racing they are competing in world championship events in, for instance, 125cc Motogp when they are 14-15 years old. That is dangerous stuff and requires a huge amount of skill and dedication that probably began years earlier. I don't see why those type of kids couldn't apply themselves to skydiving when they're 13 or 14. Note those kids were allowed to start with smaller bikes, at slower speeds, and work their way up. By comparison they'll likely get to potentially fatal speeds on their very first freefall. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarrodh 0 #21 October 18, 2006 Idk why I think the age for skydiving should stay at 18 and not go any lower, particularly because Im 18 now and I was dying to jump since I was about 14. As a student jumper off AFF working towards an A license I dont think 14 year olds recognize the potential consequences of skydiving and might look at it as more of a hobby then a dangerous sport. I think it is perfectly fine to allow people as young as ten to do Tandems, however to become a solo skydiver, to me, 18 sounds like the perfect balance for mental readiness and physical fitness.2 BITS....4 BITS....6 BITS....A DOLLAR!....ALL FOR THE GATORS....STAND UP AND HOLLER!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,255 #22 October 18, 2006 QuoteNote those kids were allowed to start with smaller bikes, at slower speeds, and work their way up. By comparison they'll likely get to potentially fatal speeds on their very first freefall. Most certainly. The point I'm making is more that these kids are able to be dedicated to their sport and take it as seriously as any adult (probably more seriously than a lot of muppets out on the road with R1's) at that young age. Learning to skydive is dangerous - to everyone. I don't think people give younger teenagers enough credit in not believing that they are able to properly grasp that and give skydiving (and other dangerous sports) the respect it deserves.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattaman 0 #23 October 19, 2006 Young people in the history of the world have raised families, fought in wars, saved communities, worked harder and longer than most adults. Young people ruitinely compete at higher levels than adults in the olympics. There was a 14, I think, year old polish battle ship captain in ww2, I think thats what it was, anyway. My point is not taking into the consideration a warped legal system. But that skydiving is a great way to teach young people about responsibility, consequences, and to get real. Young people are not getting more mature, I think we're getting less. In the old days every culture on the planet had rituals that youth had to go through to become an adult, the purpose was to get them to not make bad decisions that would fuck up the tribe, like having kids when the tribe couldn't handle it, etc. Skydiving is the best way to get people to learn that they are not immortal, and that we all have fear, and covering it up is bs. When we do not instill this in people they become borderline psychotic adult children. we've plenty of them in this society. I fear those who want to benifit from these adult children, they make money off human faliure. I'm not so sure we should run away from this question, I'm not going to do underage skydiving yet, but I got into this to work with people to help them deal with fear. This is important, and I'm not sure we should allow a failed legal system to keep us from our best as a nation. I know it says skydiving is of no benifit to society on our waivers, but I think we all know this is crap, it is, and its benifited us.Those stuck in maya, seek to be seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CReW 0 #24 October 19, 2006 Yes, 18 is a good age to start driving an automobile solo. I'd say NOT before. My Son just turned 18 and just got his drivers license, his examiner said he's a fine driver. Time will tell. As for jumping I'd guess somewhere between 18 and 21 would be about right although some would never be ready. T Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #25 October 23, 2006 Quote Yes, 18 is a good age to start driving an automobile solo. I'd say NOT before. My Son just turned 18 and just got his drivers license, his examiner said he's a fine driver. Time will tell. As for jumping I'd guess somewhere between 18 and 21 would be about right although some would never be ready. T >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Teenagers are allowed to start driving at age 16 in British Columbia, but they must conform to a long list of restrictions. ... mostly about not joy-riding with their friends after dark ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
