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Zero evidence that Cooper was the person who wrote those letters to the press.

What is truly amazing (unless he was the author of the letters ;)) is Al Di's deciphering of the exact magazine source of the cut out text.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tS_XP7GekGlB8idOZUK3ffGgcdUyfe3ipR5hFm0p3vY/edit?hl=en_US

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I just did not contribute to all of this, but my story about a Playboy magazine and the cut-out and the letters was in an email to Galen Cook.

I share this with him and with Ralph Himmeslbach - so unless there was a source for this pre-1997 it was taken from what I told Ralph Himmelsbach and then Cook.

Remember my communications were mostly with Himmelsbach and some with the FBI - but, only on the phone.

I did not have email until 2000 and really didn't know much about using email until 2001 or 2002. That is when I found that old prison thing about Folsom or SanQuentin trying to form a group to work with the forestry using parajumpers and 3 men were in that group pic infront of the prison.
I didn't know how to save these things - it was there and then it went POOF!

I never found it again and when I tried to send it to Doug Pasternak it went POOF...I believe this was around the time he did the article - almost immediately after the article came out. I did not print it but immediately sent it to him - he did NOT get it - so he said.

I never found it again...I know I had been researching Folsom and Firefighters in the West. I had found an article about firefighters from the prisons being used in the midwest....Montana - I believe.

I did this based on something Duane said one night when the big fire was happening. He told me he used to know a couple of guys who were located at the location of this big fire....the big fire was before Duane died.

God, I had even forgot about that until now - but, I have mentioned in this thread...I know I contacted many to find out were the firefighters came from...it was the BIG one before Duane died. I did NOT know how Duane knew these guys or from what period of his life he knew them.
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I did not have email until 2000 and really didn't know much about using email until 2001 or 2002. That is when I found that old prison thing about Folsom or SanQuentin trying to form a group to work with the forestry using parajumpers and 3 men were in that group pic infront of the prison.
I didn't know how to save these things - it was there and then it went POOF!



There never were prisoner smoke jumpers. There never was a program to train inmates to jump. I've researched these claims Jo and there's nothing there.

The kinds of fires inmates were called to fight were not the type that smoke jumpers fought. Smoke jumpers are typically deployed to remote often inaccessible areas to fight small fires before they expand to large ones.

Inmates typically fought larger fires that had roads reasonably near.

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Everyone on the staff has wondered why Galen Cook would suddenly emerge from his anonymity with us and start spouting BS about my co-author Skipp Porteous, (I've emailed Cook a few times over the years with legit questions, zero answers received) and we finally figured it out.

He simply didn't like what we said about him in Blast in Jan 2011:

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'The third main suspect in the case, and the highest-profile one, is a man named William Gossett. According to Spokane, Washington attorney Galen Cook, Gossett is the strongest suspect to date. Cook has been featured on radio and television, and has been investigating William Gossett and the hijacking for several years. He is working on a book and involved in an active investigation with the Gossett family.

However, Cook once claimed that he could locate the hijack ransom in a bank safety deposit box in British Columbia, but a trip up there produced nothing. Cook’s evidence linking Gossett to the hijacking is very thin. One reason is because most of it comes via Gossett’s children, who possibly stand to gain if their late father is named as the hijacker.

One serious flaw in the Gossett theory is Gossett’s appearance in a picture taken at his military retirement ceremony at Fort Lewis, Washington a mere eighteen months after the hijacking. It shows an overweight man who looks little like the F.B.I. sketch. This conflicts with the pictures Galen Cook has offered up previously that supposedly resemble the famous sketch, but were taken years before the hijacking.

In early 2010, Cook claimed to have a new witness, a woman he called ‘Janet’ who allegedly saw the hijacker standing on the airstairs of the hijacked jet and tossing flares into the Columbia River while it flew over Vancouver, Washington. This claim has been roundly discounted because of the altitude of the plane (9,600 feet) and that it was dark, raining, and the plane was flying above heavy cloud cover.

In an article from May 22, 2010, Scott Schwebke of the Utah Standard-Examiner reported this story. Among other things, Cook speculates that the hijacker was probably ‘testing the wind direction’ with the flares before jumping. He adds that Gossett was known to be ‘obsessed with road flares’.

The alleged witness ‘Janet’ also claimed to have written a letter to the Portland office of the F.B.I. about what she had seen on the night of the hijacking. Two weeks after that, she says, a mysterious man dressed in black visited her home and told her to ‘shut the fuck up.’ Cook speculates further that the F.B.I. may have threatened ‘Janet’ because it would have drawn law enforcement resources from the search that was going on up near Merwin Lake at the time. In this author’s opinion, the ‘Janet’ story should be taken with a grain of salt.

In any case, Flight 305 co-pilot Bill Rataczak insists strongly that the hijacker jumped from the plane not over the Columbia River, but further north. Cook has been a regular visitor on Coast-to-Coast AM Radio and other media in his efforts to convince the public that William Gossett was the hijacker.

I leave readers to draw their own conclusions...'



As Tom Hanks once said in Cast Away:

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'This could work...'
(to explain his motivations)



I suppose there's also the old 'truth hurts' concept with Cook, or 'You can't HANDLE the truth' idea.

As I said, I did attempt to question him (Cook) on some of these items, to hear his side of it, but he never responded. Instead, he just starts telling outright lies about Skipp Porteous in some pathetic effort to discredit. Then when we confront him on these lies, he offers up some silly 'agreement' document where he wants both of us to stop talking about each other. Our answer to that is simple: Admit you lied about receiving emails from Skipp Porteous on certain negative subjects and apologize. Everyone who has seriously investigated DB Cooper has screwed up occasionally. Even me.

Now it's YOUR turn to apologize. By doing this, you will regain some measure of credibility, and chances are good you won't stoop to doing that again. Just saying.


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Mark What lead me to believe that Sharidan wrote the four letters was the salutation on letter three "from the guy that devised the system to beat the system. DB Cooper" or something like that. He had mentioned the same mantra while living at my house for a month over and over. That was when I knew Sharidan was DB. That is why the DNA from the letters/stamps would show it was him.

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Robert, why do you feel the need to constantly bring your personal gossip stories to this thread? some of those screenshots are months old. if you feel the need once again to be the Cooper police patrolling the internet. at least stay up to date.

August 28, 2014 Coopsnoop wrote...Hot Off The Press!!!

"Look, I know this REALLY bothers Blevin's psyche, but the fact of the matter is that Skipp Porteous wants NOTHING to do with Robert M. Blevins. It's terribly obvious when one co-author goes into hiding and won't defend his literary or investigative works. Skipp's thoroughly embarrassed. Partly because he knows that his book Blast is a pile of trash, that KC was not the hikacker, and that the book is full of many factual errors. But Skipp's real source of embarrassment is that his name is still tied to Robert M. Blevins, his co-author who can't shut up about all of the snafus he has created. This causes Skipp great consternation. Blevins keeps saying he's going down to see Skipp (whos' he's never met) in CA this summer. Summer is over. So, RMB has to make up new lies to support the failings of his previous lies. No wonder MR. Blevins is not an investigator. You can't build a case, or, be competent on a foundation of LIES. Game over, Blev. Everyone is on to you."

Now, there are a few others. these posts by Cook are a small percentage on that thread. you try and make it out as some big liable case. I'll tell you the same as I told Jo. have your lawyer call me. all three of you are acting like children. this is a DB Cooper forum Robert. it's not designed to have you dumping your personal issues on. Cook has been warned on my forum. who has done anything here? perhaps you should start your own forum and "blast" away! this has nothing to do with Cooper. at least I have an off topic thread. unfortunately this one doesn't, but that doesn't stop you from dumping trash here does it? unfortunately people do this on the internet (trash talk) it's nothing new. Cook doesn't stop my forum in it's tracks like you do this one to report your gossip. if you were on that forum the same would happen as you do here, or even where you try and sell your books. you will go on for pages sometimes. it's ridiculous nobody steps in here. does anyone care what your "staff" thinks Robert? you constantly drift off topic. isn't that against the rules here Robert?

1704 comments on that thread. as mentioned before, probably 20 or so from Cook about you. I've explained to him that I don't want to read about this crap anymore unless proof is presented. if it continues the problem will be removed as quick as you were removed. either put up, or shut up. both of you!! something typed by either of you doesn't cut it either.

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I think you are right in hind sight. Why would he sign his name DB (?) But if he didn't have some one on the ground, was there a hidden receiver in the suitcase with the bomb so he could pick up a transponder signal and possibly prevent himself from becoming a "Christmas tree ornament"?

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I think you are right in hind sight. Why would he sign his name DB (?) But if he didn't have some one on the ground, was there a hidden receiver in the suitcase with the bomb so he could pick up a transponder signal and possibly prevent himself from becoming a "Christmas tree ornament"?



First, Cooper didn't sign his name at all. He told the ticket agent his name was "Dan Cooper" and that is what the ticket agent wrote on the ticket. The "Dan" became "DB" when a reporter and a police officer had a miscommunication or simply bad information from someone.

Cooper had a small attaché case and not a suitcase. There was no way that he could get a 1971 transponder in that case since it was already filled with a large battery and what was probably some road flares.

Also, a transponder would not do him much good in determining his position. He would need additional equipment, which he did not have, to pinpoint his exact (or even general) position.

And you can forget about Jo Weber's preposterous claim that Duane Weber had some specially modified underwear that permitted him to receive multiple radio signals and determine his position. Her claims are to silly to merit further comment or wasted time explaining things to her.

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There never were prisoner smoke jumpers. There never was a program to train inmates to jump. I've researched these claims Jo and there's nothing there.

The kinds of fires inmates were called to fight were not the type that smoke jumpers fought. Smoke jumpers are typically deployed to remote often inaccessible areas to fight small fires before they expand to large ones.

Inmates typically fought larger fires that had roads reasonably near.

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The jumpers never became a program and there was no training.
It WAS a picture of 3 inmates infront of the prison with jump attire and they had volunteered to participate in a program for inmates to be trained for this purpose. The 3 inmates were prisoners or exprisoner in the prison and from the pictures within my mind and memory - it was Folsom.

NOW for the last time - this has been explained to best of my knowledge!

I did inquire from a historian of the prison - and he found nothing within the archived files he had access to.

He admitted the files he had were limited....

I investigated this yrs ago and that is all I found....I keep hoping there is an old smokejumper who remembers the effort made by these prisoners and/or exprisoners. I do not remember if I contacted this man by phone or email - knowing me it was by phone....I wanted to know the source of the photo that was briefly on the internet.

The site it was on - went POOF within days of my first finding it and I was researching Folsom & firefighters. How many yrs has that prison been closed? I even researched the old Johnny Cash files because he gave at least one concert there.
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'Robert, why do you feel the need to constantly bring your personal gossip stories to this thread? some of those screenshots are months old. if you feel the need once again to be the Cooper police patrolling the internet. at least stay up to date.

August 28, 2014 Coopsnoop wrote...Hot Off The Press!!!

"Look, I know this REALLY bothers Blevin's psyche, but the fact of the matter is that Skipp Porteous wants NOTHING to do with Robert M. Blevins. It's terribly obvious when one co-author goes into hiding and won't defend his literary or investigative works. Skipp's thoroughly embarrassed. Partly because he knows that his book Blast is a pile of trash, that KC was not the hikacker, and that the book is full of many factual errors. But Skipp's real source of embarrassment is that his name is still tied to Robert M. Blevins, his co-author who can't shut up about all of the snafus he has created. This causes Skipp great consternation. Blevins keeps saying he's going down to see Skipp (whos' he's never met) in CA this summer. Summer is over. So, RMB has to make up new lies to support the failings of his previous lies. No wonder MR. Blevins is not an investigator. You can't build a case, or, be competent on a foundation of LIES. Game over, Blev. Everyone is on to you."

Now, there are a few others. these posts by Cook are a small percentage on that thread. you try and make it out as some big liable case. I'll tell you the same as I told Jo. have your lawyer call me. all three of you are acting like children. this is a DB Cooper forum Robert. it's not designed to have you dumping your personal issues on. Cook has been warned on my forum...'


Looks like your 'warning' didn't work there Shutter, since Cook is still posting that crap and sticking to his story, according to you as of August 28. Nobody said anything about libel or lawyers on this. The simple fact of the matter is that Cook keeps claiming he has all these things straight from Porteous, and I already know that isn't true, i.e. that Cook is simply making these things up. His silly claims, his even more silly posts (yes, they were screenshotted and posted back there) speak for themselves. I think they are Cooper-related because they concern a man who co-wrote a book on the Cooper case. Cook claims to actually SPEAK for Porteous in some of his posts. They are cheap shots by Cook, not based in any kind of truth, and nothing more.

He's not really my problem. He's YOUR problem. No one sees his latest posts anyway unless you bring them here. I think I saw his August 28 post already over at Greg's house, on his computer. We ignored it.

I don't need to 'prove' anything. I'm not the one saying those things about Porteous, Cook is. If you believe them, that's up to you. But he's mainly YOUR problem. ;) For example, if I told you I had emails from William Gossett's son saying that they wished they had never met Cook, then you would be justified in requesting proof of same. And so would Cook. But...I have never said anything like that because I've never received any such emails. People can post up false allegations, or claim to speak for another, and it's usual for that person to offer proof of those allegations.

I already inquired about all these things with Skipp Porteous a couple of months ago anyway. He says he's disappointed in Cook and hasn't contacted him in 'about three years'. And I never said I was going to travel a thousand miles down to California to visit Skipp this summer. I said the invitation was there for me and Gayla to do so. But I just don't have time. We run two businesses here in Seattle and I'm lucky if I have time to fly down to Phoenix twice a year to see my folks.

Cook can babble on whatever he wishes at your site. Still YOUR problem, LOL. B| If you can't handle him, and you finally get tired of his lies, ask him to post up at least ONE screenshot of an email from Porteous (that he claims to have) where Porteous says these things. Make sure he shows the date. Those are kind of tough to fake. Otherwise it's just more BS from him. I already know he can't produce a single one. Why?

Because I believe Porteous when he says he hasn't contacted Cook in years.


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Well, he has been doing it since HE first contact me....around 2003 and he kept evolving and has had multiple suspects over the yrs. He used others I am sure the way he has used me. Bruce is too naive or greedy to know this individual has also used him.

The old printed Emails I have from him & the rest are on my aol account....I know I need to start printing those. but I have so many issues I have put it off. I do have a word file I have saved many of his emails to & the ones on AOL need to be moved to that - it is just time consuming. To print them all the way I used to is just too costly. The early ones were simply printed & punched & put in large ringed binders.

I have just lost interest in a man whose manners & means or objectives are only to agitate & to be cruel..., I know I need to make finishing the file on him a priority - but, is it even worth the effort...other than to provide evidence of the manipulation used in the Cooper story...just in the event someday someone proves Duane or another suspect was Cooper.

I think there is enough in my file for someone to write a book about his exploration and his using & manipulating others then claiming the information as his own about his unlikely suspect. Why one man could knowingly cause so much grief for anyone who has a suspect is actually unbelievable unless they actually read all of the transactions....this includes my responses to him.

I REALLY do NOT want to discuss you know who - so why can't we just elimitate him for our discussions on the D.Z.
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The jumpers never became a program and there was no training. It WAS a picture of 3 inmates infront of the prison with jump attire and they had volunteered to participate in a program for inmates to be trained for this purpose. The 3 inmates were prisoners or exprisoner in the prison and from the pictures within my mind and memory - it was Folsom.



Wrong Jo. You are supplementing a dim memory with facts you wish were true. Such a program even in the proposal phase never existed. Just think of how impractical and unnecessary it would have been. That alone should make you question the accuracy of your memory.

Inmates fought fires but never as smoke jumpers. The USFS would have been involved in any proposed program. I'm
in touch with old smoke jumpers and none recall any such program ever being proposed much less implemented. Smoke jumper history is richly documented. Nothing in that history about inmate smoke jumpers.

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Wrong Jo. You are supplementing a dim memory with facts you wish were true. Such a program even in the proposal phase never existed. Just think of how impractical and unnecessary it would have been. That alone should make you question the accuracy of your memory.

Inmates fought fires but never as smoke jumpers. The USFS would have been involved in any proposed program. I'm
in touch with old smoke jumpers and none recall any such program ever being proposed much less implemented. Smoke jumper history is richly documented. Nothing in that history about inmate smoke jumpers.

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377 the ACCURACY of my memory is recorded by a 3rd party.

I never said the program was implimented and I was in communication with Doug at that time.

I did make a personal contact with a man who tried to preserve the history of Folsom - but nothing about this was in the files he was provided & all of the history of Folsom has been preserved by others.

This was 3 guys in a picture OUT side of Folsom and these guys wanted to impliment a programs to train firefighters and jumpers....within the system. These men obviously had spent time in Folsom.

There was never anything else found by Doug, myself or the self implementing historian who made attempts to save the history.

AS I stated before - this was phone conversations and I was put in touch with him through my efforts to have access to the history of the prison..
I can assure you I probably still have the phone bills.

My memory is NOT failing me in this nor has it failed me regarding what Duane told me in the hospital or what I held in my hands at one time and visually saw the next time - the airline ticket! Nor is my hearing garbled.

Duane told me
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377 the ACCURACY of my memory is recorded by a 3rd party.



Prove that Jo.

The fact that you communicated an inaccurate memory to a third party who can verify that communication does not prove that your memory was accurate.

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Well, folks, looks like it's time for a family therapy intervention session here at the DZ. We certainly don't want anyone jumping of a bridge THIS weekend, so I called Skippy to see what's cookin'.

I was surprised to receive a Facebook message in response saying that Skipp couldn't talk to me because he has a progressive neurological disorder that causes aphasia, the inability to form words. Skipp also wrote that his aphasia is such that it is also difficult for him to organize his thoughts. As a result, he is very limited in communicating effectively or in a finely fashion.

Nevertheless, we exchanged a couple of emails today and Skipp explained his situation a bit further.

He said that his aphasia has prevented him from advocating his book, posting here, establishing a blog or website to discuss Kenny, attending any Cooper symposia, or joining the talk radio hit parade, such as C-2-C or Ground Zero.

However, his email to me was basically coherent - certainly no worse than Jo on meds, or JT in his heyday here.

I'd like to learn more about Skipp, and will continue a conversation with him. In the meantime, he told me that Bobby was the guy who initiated contact to write a book on Kenny, which is 180 from what I understood from Blevs.

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Jo wrote that Duane said on his death bed:
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"I'm Dannn Cooooper"!



I believe you Jo.

I just don't think he was telling you the truth.

You've been unable to produce ANY evidence that unequivocally connects Duane to Norjack.

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Well, folks, looks like it's time for a family therapy intervention session here at the DZ. We certainly don't want anyone jumping of a bridge THIS weekend, so I called Skippy to see what's cookin'.

I was surprised to receive a Facebook message in response saying that Skipp couldn't talk to me because he has a progressive neurological disorder that causes aphasia, the inability to form words. Skipp also wrote that his aphasia is such that it is also difficult for him to organize his thoughts. As a result, he is very limited in communicating effectively or in a finely fashion.

Nevertheless, we exchanged a couple of emails today and Skipp explained his situation a bit further.

He said that his aphasia has prevented him from advocating his book, posting here, establishing a blog or website to discuss Kenny, attending any Cooper symposia, or joining the talk radio hit parade, such as C-2-C or Ground Zero.

However, his email to me was basically coherent - certainly no worse than Jo on meds, or JT in his heyday here.

I'd like to learn more about Skipp, and will continue a conversation with him. In the meantime, he told me that Bobby was the guy who initiated contact to write a book on Kenny, which is 180 from what I understood from Blevs.



Everything you said above is TRUE. (Minus your 'family therapy' comment. No one involved is family LOL)

Yes, that is Skipp's exact situation, and why...not that it's anyone's business...it's also why I knew Galen Cook was full of crap from the start when he began putting words in Porteous' mouth. I had promised Skipp a long time ago that I wasn't going to make his health situation public. He was okay with that, although I warned him that because he was unable to post publicly in support of the book, or appear on media or in person, that some heat would come my way about it. And that people might start wondering. Well..like the guy said in the film Dark City:

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'And now you know the truth...'



Even emails are difficult for him now. And have been for YEARS. On the subject of the book, Porteous is partially correct. I contacted him back in 2008 and asked him if he'd gotten anywhere with his book. I suggested to him that AB of Seattle, since we were a NW publisher, might be willing to publish the results of his investigation.

He sent me a manuscript, along with a bunch of reports, letters by Kenny Christiansen, photographs galore, and a boxload of documents. I examined what he had and told him he had a fairly good circumstantial case but what he needed was testimony from the people who knew Christiansen best. Since Porteous lived in New York at the time, and I lived a mere ten miles from where KC used to live, I told him I might try doing some interviews.

You can bet I was pretty surprised when people like Dawn Androsko started telling me things like, 'Me and some of my friends wondered at the start (in 72) if he (Kenny) might be Cooper.' Or Bernie Geestman pointing to his ex-wife up in Twisp as being Kenny's accomplice, and later...she doing the same thing and naming HIM. I won't go into all of that again.

Suffice it to say that when Galen Cook tells you that Porteous told him this or that...or that he was going to drag Bernie Geestman down from Port Angeles for Auburn Days...

It was all a pack of lies. I'm going to tell you something about me. I might be wrong sometimes on points regarding the case. But I'm always going to give it to you straight, i.e. I'm not going to just make shit up in order to make myself look good or strengthen any case against Kenny Christiansen. You start doing that, you also go down a road where no one trusts what you say anymore. It's one thing to be wrong, and quite another to lie.

Attached: Skipp's most recent email to me. He notified me that he had discussed his situation with Smith. Because of his current physical situation, the message is hard to understand.

But the one line where he talks about Galen Cook is pretty straightforward.

Both Porteous and yours truly believe Galen Cook owes us an apology for his lies. Not that we will get it, of course. :S


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377 the ACCURACY of my memory is recorded by a 3rd party.



Prove that Jo.

The fact that you communicated an inaccurate memory to a third party who can verify that communication does not prove that your memory was accurate.

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I sent it to Doug, but it did not come thru - remember 2001 computers I was still learning...I went and found it again - and couldn't print it...I tried and tried...I remember the picture like it was yesterday.

Doug can tell you how upset I was when I couldn't find it again. Even today I have been searching old Folsom files - but you need to be able to down load U-Tube and have something besides dial-up. I still to this day see that picture and it is not distorted nor am I imagining it.

Some one had that photo and it was on a site related to my keying in. Firefighters and Folsom and smokejumpers....the men were squatted down - not standing. The picture was sepia. The old prison was in the back ground...perhaps why they squatted for the photographer.

Their attire was dark.

God KNOWS if I could project that photo on to paper with my mind I would do so. It was the key to all I have searched for - the names I no longer remember....but, at the time it was on the computer only 1 of them was still alive.
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However, his email to me was basically coherent - certainly no worse than Jo on meds, or JT in his heyday here.

I'd like to learn more about Skipp, and will continue a conversation with him. In the meantime, he told me that Bobby was the guy who initiated contact to write a book on Kenny, which is 180 from what I understood from Blevs.



My only communication with Skipp was the site he showed the picture of KC.
I told him in a reply to the site that I didn't believe that KC was Cooper and told him why - and briefly my story about Duane Weber.

He made a short communication to me. When I went back to the site again - Blevins had showed up. Later I could not find the site again.

This was the first I ever heard of Blevins....and before he developed his story.
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However, his email to me was basically coherent - certainly no worse than Jo on meds, or JT in his heyday here.

I'd like to learn more about Skipp, and will continue a conversation with him. In the meantime, he told me that Bobby was the guy who initiated contact to write a book on Kenny, which is 180 from what I understood from Blevs.



My only communication with Skipp was the site he showed the picture of KC.
I told him in a reply to the site that I didn't believe that KC was Cooper and told him why - and briefly my story about Duane Weber.

He made a short communication to me. When I went back to the site again - Blevins had showed up. Later I could not find the site again.

This was the first I ever heard of Blevins....and before he developed his story.

I didn't 'develop' a story. I traveled around for over a year interviewing people who knew Christiansen, and then added those interviews to the manuscript Porteous had already provided. Later, I added some parts about our work with History Channel, and the interviews with Helen Jones and her daughter.

EDIT for Bruce Smith and Shutter: Well, what about it boys? I invited both of you to email Skipp Porteous regarding the truth of the matter on Skipp...and now that's been done. End result was I was right all along. So what do you do, Bruce? Your good buddy took both you and that website for a big ol' ride down Liars Lane. You gonna believe him the next time he spouts off more crap about me or Porteous? You still think Cook's word is credible? Or will you find a way to weasel around all that? Because he's your Big Buddy and all. Tell you what...if my friend Greg started lying to me and everyone else he wouldn't be my friend very long.

Shutter said he wanted proof. I think that's been presented, and not by me, but an independent source. (Smith) I would call it case closed on this particular subject.


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Wrong Jo. You are supplementing a dim memory with facts you wish were true. Such a program even in the proposal phase never existed. Just think of how impractical and unnecessary it would have been. That alone should make you question the accuracy of your memory.

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IT WAS NOT a dim memory and it was there! I will swear that in a court of law if need be....that picture did exist on the internet and in relation to Folsom and Firefighters...and Smokejumping ---- because that is how I was searching with key words.

To this day - I still search for that photo...the new sites since I cannot see U-tube - I am unable to download or search thru the old files.
Basically my search abilities because of my connect and computer system are useless.

I cannot afford anymore than dial-up.
I cannot afford a new computer.
Therefore I work with what I have.

Even U verse adds $40 to my phone bill and with my unlimited long distance (for the kids and Cooper calls). My phone bill averages 70 to 80 per month...they want $199 to hook me up to U-verse.

My phone bill would be over $100 per month, but useless to me without a new computer - which has been upgraded to its max. Old Windows XP with the necessary programs at that time.



They advertise $399, but they do not have a word program or photo program and Poof that $400 jumps to $1400 in the blink of an eye.

These things came on my computer in 2006 when I bought it...

Not to mention my car 2003 Rendezou with 79K has its problems.
In my area having transportation is a necessity. Needs ALL WHEEL differential if they can even locate one, new seals, belt, shocks or struts, brakes - the list goes on and on & the price tag phenomenal.

I just do what is essential with regular maintence and keep on plugging along.

At this time in my life I have no way to replace my monies and they are dwindling more rapidly than we expected due to the economy.

If not careful - I could find myself in the position many senior are in at this moment. They retired with a decent supplement to their SS & the economy whacked their retirement plans. Some got desperate & then lost what they did have...with alternate retirement scams that ended up causing them to loose their homes and move in with the kids. Some did re-verse mortgages and found gliches when they went to sell the home.

Everything is a racket today & most of it targets seniors...the most gullible and the most to loose.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Nothing would be here about Cook if you had not been bringing up every other week. Cook is not my problem. you act as if it's a problem on my end. I'm tired of constantly reading about stuff you bring up on this forum that has zero do do with Cooper, or this forum.

He is not a problem on my forum. he doesn't even post enough to matter. try staying on topic (extremely hard for you) but again, this is a DB Cooper forum where you are SUPPOSE to discuss Cooper, not what others are talking about with Robert (aka Bobby) Blevins.

It's not my problem, or this forums problem if he doesn't respond to you. stop making it everyone's problem by continuing to bring it here! I've taken action, but nobody seems to have taken any here though. I don't have time to sort through your drama with Cook. it's between you and him. not Dropzone.com, or my forum, or any other source you throw into the pot.
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Nothing would be here about Cook if you had not been bringing up every other week. Cook is not my problem. you act as if it's a problem on my end. I'm tired of constantly reading about stuff you bring up on this forum that has zero do do with Cooper, or this forum.

He is not a problem on my forum. he doesn't even post enough to matter. try staying on topic (extremely hard for you) but again, this is a DB Cooper forum where you are SUPPOSE to discuss Cooper, not what others are talking about with Robert (aka Bobby) Blevins.

It's not my problem, or this forums problem if he doesn't respond to you. stop making it everyone's problem by continuing to bring it here! I've taken action, but nobody seems to have taken any here though. I don't have time to sort through your drama with Cook. it's between you and him. not Dropzone.com, or my forum, or any other source you throw into the pot.



You say all this now...but YOU were the one who kept coming to Dropzone and demanding 'proof'. So now you have it. So what are you whining about? You asked, you received. Are you laying this stuff on Bruce Smith, as well? He's the one who finally went to Porteous and checked, and then posted the results. So why aren't you talking to HIM?

Cook doesn't even post at Dropzone, so I consider the matter closed. Look at the bright side. The next time he tries to lay a bunch of lies on your website...you'll already know his history on that and be able to address him much more effectively. B|


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"...EDIT for Bruce Smith and Shutter: Well, what about it boys? I invited both of you to email Skipp Porteous regarding the truth of the matter on Skipp...and now that's been done. End result was I was right all along. So what do you do, Bruce? Your good buddy took both you and that website for a big ol' ride down Liars Lane. You gonna believe him the next time he spouts off more crap about me or Porteous? You still think Cook's word is credible? Or will you find a way to weasel around all that? Because he's your Big Buddy and all...."




Whoa, not so fast Bobby B. You are more comfortable in a Black-White World, whereas mine is mostly gray (or grey). I'm still gathering information. There are many more possibilities than one guy lying or not.

One of those possibilities is that I am being played by Skippy. Time will tell, I suppose. After all, the email that you posted reveals that Skipp's typing and composition isn't that bad. He could post here if he chose.

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Robert, again you take things out of context. I stated many times that I haven't seen proof from either of you. I didn't demand anything! what Bruce wrote above doesn't really tell much. the problem is between you and him, such as the problem between Jo, and Cook. none of this should be posted anywhere. all 3 of you are whiner's.

The whole drama, soap opera is ridiculous. it doesn't belong anywhere. certainly not between two different forums.
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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"...EDIT for Bruce Smith and Shutter: Well, what about it boys? I invited both of you to email Skipp Porteous regarding the truth of the matter on Skipp...and now that's been done. End result was I was right all along. So what do you do, Bruce? Your good buddy took both you and that website for a big ol' ride down Liars Lane. You gonna believe him the next time he spouts off more crap about me or Porteous? You still think Cook's word is credible? Or will you find a way to weasel around all that? Because he's your Big Buddy and all...."




Whoa, not so fast Bobby B. You are more comfortable in a Black-White World, whereas mine is mostly gray (or grey). I'm still gathering information. There are many more possibilities than one guy lying or not.

One of those possibilities is that I am being played by Skippy. Time will tell, I suppose. After all, the email that you posted reveals that Skipp's typing and composition isn't that bad. He could post here if he chose.



Are you kidding? Do you realize how long it takes him just to do an email these days? Last time he tried it he was so shaky he spilled his coffee onto his laptop and fried the thing. And you should know that I have warned him about you, i.e. sometimes you come on to people in a friendly way and then try to use whatever you find against someone, or to make them look bad. You have DONE THIS. (occasionally)

One of the reasons he doesn't post is because he has seen the senseless attacks that go on here, sometimes coupled with outright lies. And he wants no part of it. Can't say I blame him much. As far as I'm concerned this subject regarding Galen Cook and Porteous is closed. You should have figured out that since Porteous receives royalties on the book and owns a portion of the rights to any screenplay...that Cook's allegations and quotes regarding Porteous were lies from the start. Did it surprise you Cook would stoop that low? I have to admit it surprised me completely. I could see this coming from some anonymous Cooper fan, but not a known Cooper investigator like Cook. I was like 'whaaat?' when I first saw what he was saying.

So it goes. I don't live in a 'grey' world on this particular subject. It's black and white all the way. And I think this issue is settled.

EDIT: I had to check my messages for a moment. Yes, I told Amazon three days ago why Porteous couldn't post on the internet. I knew she wouldn't make his health problems public...as you did. I also told Porteous today that you did just that. I doubt he will be any kind of source for you now. In my humble opinion, you and your friend Cook deserve each other. Maybe if Porteous refuses to speak to you further, you could just do as Cook did and simply make a few emails up on your own. (*laughs*)


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