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"...Perhaps Jo will also tell us how Duane liked the swimming and fishing in Groom Lake? Did Duane and his friends have beach houses there? Who were their neighbors?

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I understand the sunsets over Groom Lake are outstanding. Definitely Miller Time.

A tad dusty, though.


There are the signs, the cameras, the patrols, the ground sensors, and ready-to-go aerial recon and interception stuff there. No one gets within 25 miles of that place unless they are authorized, or have a death wish. :|

Tell you what though. I wouldn't mind having one of the Highway 395 signs that lead to the place. They say 'Extraterrestrial Highway' on them. Too cool.

I've done a lot of driving in Nevada over the years. Like on the way to Eureka, Nevada...there is this vast open white desert plain that goes out forever. Makes the Bonneville Salt Flats look like peanuts. So...I drive out there a couple of miles and actually go camping. Why? Because you can do long-distance target shooting that is so ridiculous you have to use your truck to go and check the targets you just fired at. LOL...too far to walk out and check. This is where you really discover the effective range of any scoped weapon. You can do Quigley Down Under stuff for sure out there. Just aim HIGH. :)


And of course we need to give a hat tip to Burning Man, which starts this weekend, I believe.

I just got an email from the Institute of Noetic Sciences that announces they are doing consciousness studies at Burning Man this year. All that isolation and common purpose are ideal to study quantum entanglement.

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First off, no one does chute jumps at Groom Lake unless they are hitting the ejection lever on a test flight. I think we can agree that the original idea behind Groom Lake was a secure facility to develop and test new aircraft technology.



Quade has some relevant first hand knowledge about jumping in Area 51. Ask him.

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"...Perhaps Jo will also tell us how Duane liked the swimming and fishing in Groom Lake? Did Duane and his friends have beach houses there? Who were their neighbors?

Robert99



I understand the sunsets over Groom Lake are outstanding. Definitely Miller Time.

A tad dusty, though.


There are the signs, the cameras, the patrols, the ground sensors, and ready-to-go aerial recon and interception stuff there. No one gets within 25 miles of that place unless they are authorized, or have a death wish. :|

Tell you what though. I wouldn't mind having one of the Highway 395 signs that lead to the place. They say 'Extraterrestrial Highway' on them. Too cool.

I've done a lot of driving in Nevada over the years. Like on the way to Eureka, Nevada...there is this vast open white desert plain that goes out forever. Makes the Bonneville Salt Flats look like peanuts. So...I drive out there a couple of miles and actually go camping. Why? Because you can do long-distance target shooting that is so ridiculous you have to use your truck to go and check the targets you just fired at. LOL...too far to walk out and check. This is where you really discover the effective range of any scoped weapon. You can do Quigley Down Under stuff for sure out there. Just aim HIGH. :)


And of course we need to give a hat tip to Burning Man, which starts this weekend, I believe.

I just got an email from the Institute of Noetic Sciences that announces they are doing consciousness studies at Burning Man this year. All that isolation and common purpose are ideal to study quantum entanglement.

EDIT: It's been many years since I went to that area. So...I check Google Maps. It's only about seven or eight miles across, not 'forever' or 'bigger than Bonneville Flats'. I guess it just seemed like it was bigger when I was there. It's also a wildlife refuge now so probably no more shooting anyway. Just search out 'Churchill County, NV' on Google Maps to see the place. It's near Fallon, I think. :$

Hmm...no. It's not the refuge near Fallon. Wrong again. It's been so long since I was there I had to do some research on the exact location. Finally figured it out. It's the place where Highway 50 actually CROSSES the lakebed, and that means Frenchman's Dry Lake. Well, I haven't been there since the early 80's. Pics attached.


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I think you left dropzone because you don't like me anymore why didn't you tell me you were leaving because of this I'm gonna jump off the Tacoma narrows bridge



Okay. That does it. Dannie Ten-Ten, if you're a real kid named Andy, I'm stepping into your life. I take suicidal threats seriously. Hence, I'm going to contact Atlanta CPS, your school and family.

To everyone else, I'll keep you posted as to wtf is happening here.

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***I think you left dropzone because you don't like me anymore why didn't you tell me you were leaving because of this I'm gonna jump off the Tacoma narrows bridge



Okay. That does it. Dannie Ten-Ten, if you're a real kid named Andy, I'm stepping into your life. I take suicidal threats seriously. Hence, I'm going to contact Atlanta CPS, your school and family.

To everyone else, I'll keep you posted as to wtf is happening here.

I sent you a PM with a link to his mother's Facebook.
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First off, no one does chute jumps at Groom Lake unless they are hitting the ejection lever on a test flight. I think we can agree that the original idea behind Groom Lake was a secure facility to develop and test new aircraft technology.



Quade has some relevant first hand knowledge about jumping in Area 51. Ask him.

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Quade used to have a paper online about jumping NEAR Area 51 but not OVER it. Perhaps you can Goggle it if he doesn't send a URL soon.

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***I think you left dropzone because you don't like me anymore why didn't you tell me you were leaving because of this I'm gonna jump off the Tacoma narrows bridge



Okay. That does it. Dannie Ten-Ten, if you're a real kid named Andy, I'm stepping into your life. I take suicidal threats seriously. Hence, I'm going to contact Atlanta CPS, your school and family.

To everyone else, I'll keep you posted as to wtf is happening here.


Update on Dannie 10-10


1. I called Georgia CPS this evening and apprised them that a kid named Andrew Patrick Poppens, aka Dannie Ten-Ten, is threatening to harm himself by jumping off a bridge. They have passed the notice on to Fulton County Child Welfare.

2. I have located a "Poppens" family north of Atlanta, and have a phone number and address. I will call tomorrow, Sunday, August 24, 2014, since it is currently about 10:30 pm Eastern Time.

3. I will also call Cumberland Academy, either tomorrow or Monday, as classes resumed on August 14.

4. I have discovered that the "Poppens" family that is in Georgia north of Atlanta had also lived previously in Bellevue and Sumner, Washington.


Bobby B, since Sumner, WA is next door to Auburn, is there anything you want to tell us about Andy? Anything you want to tell CPS? Their number is 1.855.422.4453.

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******I think you left dropzone because you don't like me anymore why didn't you tell me you were leaving because of this I'm gonna jump off the Tacoma narrows bridge



Okay. That does it. Dannie Ten-Ten, if you're a real kid named Andy, I'm stepping into your life. I take suicidal threats seriously. Hence, I'm going to contact Atlanta CPS, your school and family.


To everyone else, I'll keep you posted as to wtf is happening here.


Update on Dannie 10-10


1. I called Georgia CPS this evening and apprised them that a kid named Andrew Patrick Poppens, aka Dannie Ten-Ten, is threatening to harm himself by jumping off a bridge. They have passed the notice on to Fulton County Child Welfare.

2. I have located a "Poppens" family north of Atlanta, and have a phone number and address. I will call tomorrow, Sunday, August 24, 2014, since it is currently about 10:30 pm Eastern Time.

3. I will also call Cumberland Academy, either tomorrow or Monday, as classes resumed on August 14.

4. I have discovered that the "Poppens" family that is in Georgia north of Atlanta had also lived previously in Bellevue and Sumner, Washington.


Bobby B, since Sumner, WA is next door to Auburn, is there anything you want to tell us about Andy? Anything you want to tell CPS? Their number is 1.855.422.4453.



Update II


I sent a message to Danielle Poppens on her Facebook account, as per EVick's link.

In addition, I visited "Andy Poppens" Facebook page. There is nothing there except the same pix that he uses as his avatar here. No friends, no timeline, etc.

Also, Danielle lists an "Andy" as her son.

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Ah, Groom Lake.

Tell me, Mrs. Cooper, did Duane has nightmares about owls?



Perhaps Jo will also tell us how Duane liked the swimming and fishing in Groom Lake? Did Duane and his friends have beach houses there? Who were their neighbors?

Robert99

I do not know any thing about Groom lake. In 1979 - I could not see from the highway any thing other than desert (what I call desert) but there was low vegetation...

I did NOT see the rocks he told me about - so obviously they were beyond my view or removed.

He told me about a town I could not see from the highway and a lake.

On the other side of this lake is where the man lived he told me about....that man was a jumper!
Expect this was about the only time he actually admitted to a relationship with someone who jumped. The conversation was more like he was a helper - collecting up the chutes and hardware - I assumed he was a very young man at the time.

Again the guys....I got the impression it was a small town and little was said about that. He did mention JUMPING in that conversation & I have explore this yrs ago. Yes, per the man I spoke to about this area - there was jumpers who lived there.

I know absolutely little to nothing about that area, but it was BEFORE we reach Tahoe and evidently in the middle of NOWHERE.

:|(I just edited the above post because this was ONE specific time when he DID mention chutes}.
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Perhaps Jo will also tell us how Duane liked the swimming and fishing in Groom Lake? Did Duane and his friends have beach houses there? Who were their neighbors?

Robert99



I do not know any thing about Groom lake. In 1979 - I could not see from the highway and thing other than desert (what I call desert) but that was vegetation there but low vegetation...

I did NOT see the rocks he told me about - so obviously they were beyond my view or removed.

He told me about a town I could not see from the highway and a lake.
On the other side of this lake is where them man lived he told me about.

Again the guys....I got the impression it was a small town and little was said about that. He did meantion JUMPING in that conversation and I have explore this yrs ago. Yes, per the man I spoke to about this area - there was jumpers who lived there.

I know absolute little to nothing about that area, but it was BEFORE we reach Tahoe and evidently in the middle of NOWHERE.

Jo, Groom Lake is a dry lake bed in Area 51. There is no water there except after rains and it is unlikely that the water collects to even an inch deep after a heavy thunderstorm. All the lake beds in that area are dry and the same comments apply to them.

Area 51 is adjacent to the nuclear testing grounds operated by the Atomic Energy Commission. Radioactive fallout has contaminated Area 51 and Groom Lake on many occasions.

No one "lives" in Area 51 or the nuclear testing grounds. Groom Lake, some other aeronautical facilities, and probably the AEC facilities, have living quarters for personnel who are there temporarily for tests or other activities but no one lives there permanently. There are no "towns" in the Nellis Air Force Range.

Lake Tahoe is near Reno, NV on the California border. Groom Lake and Area 51 are about 80 miles northwest of Las Vegas, NV.

Groom Lake is about 50 miles north of Indian Springs and cannot be seen from US highway 95.

Duane was talking through his hat. Of course, you accepted anything he said as Words from On High.

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On August 23 at 9PM your time you openly threatened an individual who was threatening certain actions.

You do realize it is a weekend - did YOU actually speak with the authorities? If you did they would have couciled you NOT to confront the person....or to make the individual aware of the course of action.

You are an idiot & you have NO expertise in this at all. Yes, some one needed to do something - but, you do NOT confront or make public actions until AFTER the fact.

What you have done is VERY dangerous considering the fact it is a wk-end....I am praying as I write this.

DID you actually speak with a resource available to take IMMEDIATE action?

IF not What happens lies WHOLLY on you. Hope you can live with it!

Such inappropriate actions could also cause a liability for the DZ...

YOU are an IDIOT and YOU KNOW ZERO about dealing in matters like this.

If you WALK with a BIG STICK - you should KNOW how to use it first.
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Bruce says in part:

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'Update on Dannie 10-10

1. I called Georgia CPS this evening and apprised them that a kid named (removed by RB), aka Dannie Ten-Ten, is threatening to harm himself by jumping off a bridge. They have passed the notice on to Fulton County Child Welfare.

2. I have located a (name of family removed by RB) family north of Atlanta, and have a phone number and address. I will call tomorrow, Sunday, August 24, 2014, since it is currently about 10:30 pm Eastern Time.

3. I will also call Cumberland Academy, either tomorrow or Monday, as classes resumed on August 14.

4. I have discovered that the (unnamed) family that is in Georgia north of Atlanta had also lived previously in Bellevue and Sumner, Washington.

Bobby B, since Sumner, WA is next door to Auburn, is there anything you want to tell us about Andy? Anything you want to tell CPS? Their number is 1.855.422.4453.



No. Not unless they ask. I think you should stop with the first two items though. I wouldn't call the school. And if you call his parents, try to be nice would you? Neither he or his folks are Cooper suspects or witnesses. You shouldn't even be posting your plans here. They sound self-serving. If you had real concern, you would do these things privately and keep it off the internet. Have you considered the idea that Andy might read them himself? :S

It's almost like you're trying to impress everyone, rather than being truly concerned with the boy's welfare. And my name isn't Bobby. Those are cops in Great Britain. My name's ROBERT. Get it straight if you can.

EDIT: And by the way...posting the full name of a minor and other personal information about him and his family could be considered a breach of the rules. You should have done these things you said PRIVATELY. You know, like off the internet. I edited the quote I took from you for the same reason. What in the heck are you thinking? Maybe you should go back and do a little editing before someone else at DZ makes some decisions FOR you. Like whether you are allowed to remain.

UPDATE: Andy is fine. I have this from both Andy and his family. I asked his mother for permission to send him some books for free. He's picking two.


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"...And by the way...posting the full name of a minor and other personal information about him and his family could be considered a breach of the rules...."




I only posted here the names that you provided previously, or Andy did. I did not introduce anything personal to the Internet that is new material. Only my actions.

As stated above, I take suicidal threats seriously.

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"...On August 23 at 9PM your time you openly threatened an individual who was threatening certain actions...."



Characterizing threats of suicide as "certain actions" grossly misrepresents the seriousness of this matter.

Yes, I spoke with an official at the Georgia State Child Protective Services.

Unlike you, Mrs. Cooper, I have professional training and experience in the matter of youths committing suicide and the steps one can take to prevent these tragedies.

Hence, I knew an intake officer would be available to receive my notice.

I get the sense that you prefer committing the character assassination of me rather than saving the life of a kid.

Way to go, Jo. Your Southern charm really stinks tonight.

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"...If you had real concern, you would do these things privately and keep it off the internet..."





I have been concerned about Danielle1010 for some time. I have been in contact with Georgia Child Protective Services since August 9, 2014.

So, Bobby, fuck off.



My name isn't 'Bobby' and the only thing you are concerned with here is making yourself look important. You were the one who researched that family's previous residences and listed them, posted what school Andy goes to, gave his full name on the internet, and other family-related items like his mother's name and her Facebook page. You should have just done the sensible thing and edited those posts as I suggested, instead of posting up details on him and his family. Your alleged concern for his welfare doesn't require you to list those things you did, and then make them public on the internet. He's a minor, and in common sense you are lacking, at least today.

If you are banned now, you have no one to blame but yourself. It would be better if no one asks my opinion on this. Even better than that would be if you went back and edited a few items. Quickly.


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"...You were the one who researched that family's previous residences and listed them, posted what school Andy goes to, gave his full name on the internet, and other family-related items like his mother's name and her Facebook page..."



You allegations are incorrect, Bobby.

Everything specific that I posted I got from the DZ: from your posts and Andy's.

You provided the name of the school, and his medical diagnosis. He provided his full name and his mother's name. In fact, it is his moniker here at the DZ.

The fact that a family named Poppens lived in Sumner and Bellevue, WA is already posted on the Internet.

I have not posted a link to her Facebook page or her full name. Yes, she is on Facebook, but that is her choosing.

More importantly, Bobby, what is your relationship with Andy and his family? According to your previous post you are in communication with both Andy and his mom.

What's up with that? Are you a family friend? Have you met them in person? Why are you gifting Andy?

I'm trying to find out if some kid in this world is really going to kill himself and to do something about it that might prevent it.

What are you doing?

How is giving me shit gonna help anyone? And I'm the one trying to look important?

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Here are the stats:

Suicide is the third leading cause of death among young people, resulting in about 4,400 deaths per year, according to the CDC. For every suicide among young people, there are at least 100 suicide attempts. Over 14 percent of high school students have considered suicide, and almost 7 percent have attempted it.


440,000 suicide attempts by youths in the USA this year, Bobby. You gonna roll the dice?

What makes you feel so smug and cock-sure we're not going to have a death here? You know something about Andy we don't know?

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Update, Sunday, 2 pm PT


1. I have called the Poppens residence in Georgia. No answer, so I left a detailed message.

2. I sent a message and "friend request" to Danielle Poppens, Andy's mother, on her Facebook page. Again, no response.

3. Danielle1010 has never responded to my postings here at the DZ and continues to abstain from giving any acknowledgement or comment to our concerns for his welfare.

4. Blevs claims that he has the personal email address of Andy Poppens, and has been in personal contact with both Andy and his mother. Yet he fails to discuss the nature of his relationship with this family.

So, Bobby, how the heck did you get the private email address of a 15 year-old kid who is threatening to kill himself?

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Update, Sunday 2:20 pm PT


1. Danielle1010's actual suicide threat has been scrubbed from the DZ. Post #55087 is no longer posted. His words are only visible in responses by Bobby and me to his original post.

2. I will be sending a detailed email note to the GA CPS intake people shortly. Names, addresses, phone numbers, etc. of all the major players, including copies of the suicide threat posted here and Blev's response of a gift of books.

3. I have alerted the GA CPS that Robert M Blevins has the personal and private email address of Andrew. In addition, I said that Mr. Blevins seems to have some kind of relationship with Andrew. In fact, Andrew's disappointment with Blevins and the relationship seems to be at the core of his wanting to kill himself.

4. Georger, at Shut's site, indicates that GA LE is involved, along with officials from CNN.

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What a certain poster has done is completely wrong and jeopardizes the safety of a supposed child

I have empathy for the child in question, but this individuals' public means to attempt a rescue of a seemingly troubled person has gone way too far.

If this person was truely concerned about the child & had the expertise he claimed - he would NEVER have made PUBLIC what he claimed to have done.

Anyone ever NOTE the times of the postings? Even NOTE when this person posts and who this person responds to?

Child lives in Ga and there is no Tacoma bridge there.;)Why I did not take it serious.

DUHHHhhh!
He who knows ALL and gets it ALL wrong most of the time - contacts authorities and then publicizes his HEROICS before he is aware intervention had been made....or that a real problem even exists.


Way to go Brucie - you cause damage to anyone you interview and your purpose is always SELF SERVING!
U do not care whose lives you Screw up and all you care about is a STORY!

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