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I would worry about Bruce a bit since he sees gravity as an option not a law. 377




Sorry, I know this is morbid - but that made me LOL! & just trying to respond has me laughing....geez I must be one sick puppy, but frankly Brucie deserves to have to jump for his interview....of Coure Ralph is way to rule consciece & if Brucie is still as overweight as he was - too dangerous!



I like to play in the sky.. well I used to before my health grounded me.

Some of the new disciplines like proximity flying test the bounds of the sport. Somewhere up on Mt Si just east of Seattle is a young man that lost with his playing with gravity and the rocks. No one has yet to stmble across his body up there in the cliffs.


Skydiving can be thought of as a game of rock, paper, meat sack...... It is always well to remember that when playing the game with gravity... ROCK always wins. Some people like to kid themselves that skydiving is safe... no it is not safe.. but it is survivable for most people... you MITTIGATE the risk to the best of your ability... and millions of jumps a year.. we get away with it most of the time.

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Some people like to kid themselves that skydiving is safe... no it is not safe.. but it is survivable for most people... you MITTIGATE the risk to the best of your ability... and millions of jumps a year.. we get away with it most of the time.



Never safe. Sweetly calling you to the edge with a song that mortals cannot resist. The Sirens had wings. Homer just never looked skyward.

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Ralph has viewed pics of Weber but did not recognize him - but HOW did Duane know him prior to 1979? He had no explanation of why Duane would claim to know him & he did not recognize Weber.



Occam has an answer but you won't like it Jo.

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Occam has an answer but you won't like it Jo.

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Regarding McCoy

We had been transferred to Va from Ga. Duane showed me where McCoy was killed when he was orientating me to the area - shopping center and groceries.

He explained to me who McCoy was and I did know about the crime, but was never interested in things like that & I long before had forgotten how he reacted to the money find in 1979 - it was just NOT part of my life.

I think I actually expelled negative thoughts about others from my mind. Most would have connected the incidents - I didn't & life was good.

We were basically on a honeymoon - we were making good money and we worked together and we played together....We loved the beach and we were there when the weather permitted. He was out of the reach of his ex-wife and we paid her off and started over.

Why I didn't pick up on the connections to our trip in 1979 I will never know - but, simply I did not.

In the back of my mind - I was sorting it out - just shook my head at any negative thought I could have about this man who treated me like China Doll - We were good and we were a good match. I did not know a union between two people could be so harmonious.

Our relationship never was dull and guess it was a relationship neither of us had ever experience before.

ODD now that I think back over things - DUANE never pressured me - he always made me feel loved & he understood me - I didn't feel I had to pretend to be something I was not. Even my children were pleased how Duane and I interacted. IT was good.

Duane could take a worst case senario and make it into something good....we didn't talk about the past - it was the here and now and what we going to do next wk or next month and we were saving for the future...Life was HOW it was supposed to be.

Then the Kidney started to fail in 1986. He was acceoting and cautious, but the Dr.s were good.

By 1987 he was on Disability with the company and we moved to AL - a move that was costly as I knew others had never been able to turn AL around - yet Duane was sure we could do it...I was the manager on paper but he really did the managment.

It didn't work and I went to work as a manufactures rep traveling the state of AL and Panhandle of FL - then we moved to Fl....and we bought a home.

He opened up a shop and I went back to insurance sales and that wss our life. A boring couple - but we were never bored with each other.
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Robert, if you would drill a hole in that thick skull of yours you would have noticed I called him out from the very start. I repeatedly asked for proof just as I asked for it from you. I have yet to see anything from either of you so nothing has changed in what I have done from the start.

It's ridiculous how you judge people. you have been banned twice from here, but have no problem telling people about others who are permanently banned? doesn't that make you half as bad as the ones you try and discredit? you were given two chances here, but it's not ok to give others a chance? explain your logic.

My main goal has been reached. that is a forum that discusses DB Cooper. is it perfect, nope, but what forum is I ask? no matter how hard you search the site, you will NOT see page after page of arguing that seemingly follows you where ever you go. that includes where you try and sell books. I don't allow that to happen.

Now, in conclusion. my forum is currently online for all to see. I'm not in a position to market the forum. it's purpose is to have a discussion about DB Cooper, and not make sure the whole planet see's it. if people want to join, so be it. if they choose to continue to say "the deserve each other" so be it. I don't care if it comes in dead last on the Google ratings! I didn't start it to try and knock this site down. I didn't start it to be on top of every known Cooper forum. I started it to get away from the constant bickering that occurs here.

End Of Story......
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Robert, if you would drill a hole in that thick skull of yours you would have noticed I called him out from the very start. I repeatedly asked for proof just as I asked for it from you. I have yet to see anything from either of you so nothing has changed in what I have done from the start.

It's ridiculous how you judge people. you have been banned twice from here, but have no problem telling people about others who are permanently banned? doesn't that make you half as bad as the ones you try and discredit? you were given two chances here, but it's not ok to give others a chance? explain your logic.

My main goal has been reached. that is a forum that discusses DB Cooper. is it perfect, nope, but what forum is I ask? no matter how hard you search the site, you will NOT see page after page of arguing that seemingly follows you where ever you go. that includes where you try and sell books. I don't allow that to happen.

Now, in conclusion. my forum is currently online for all to see. I'm not in a position to market the forum. it's purpose is to have a discussion about DB Cooper, and not make sure the whole planet see's it. if people want to join, so be it. if they choose to continue to say "the deserve each other" so be it. I don't care if it comes in dead last on the Google ratings! I didn't start it to try and knock this site down. I didn't start it to be on top of every known Cooper forum. I started it to get away from the constant bickering that occurs here.

End Of Story......



Excuse me...but since I didn't make the allegations (Cook did) then I am not required to provide any 'proof'. That is up to the accuser, am I right? B|

No worries. I see you have a handle on it. I'll think of your struggles with Cook and his lies the next time you remind me how bad I am. And then I will laugh about the whole thing. Come on man...you have to admit his 'agreement' thing was kind of funny. That was nothing more than an attempt on his part to save face. And when that didn't work, he hits up your site with more BS. I don't know what BS that happens to be this week, since I gave up visiting that site from Greg's computer. I just don't WANT to see whatever Cook is saying now, that's for sure. I'll let it be your problem.

I'll agree that enough has been said on this subject, and we should return to Cooper.

Speaking of Cooper, I don't know how well he was trained (if at all) in the use of a chute, but I always wondered why he told Mucklow 'I don't need that' when he was offered the instructions provided with the chutes. I have seen this quoted several times as an exchange between Mucklow and Cooper. If the quote is true, then I think this proves he wasn't a complete novice with a ripcord.

UPDATE: I am in the process of setting up an interview on video that will be posted to YouTube and made into a DVD. It is somewhat Cooper-related, but not Christiansen-related at all, and has nothing to do with our book. Should be interesting though. I'm shooting this one in 1080p high-definition, widescreen, using 5.1 Dolby surround sound. Good results when you do that, even though it takes forever to convert the video files, even with a fast computer. I can't reveal the name of the person being interviewed, but I'm sure you will enjoy the results. I will post it up when it is finished. That will be in two weeks. At this time I can't make the subject of the interview public. Not to be crass about it, but if some of you knew who it was, you might try talking them out of it.

Actions by a few bad apples have made it necessary for me to put things on a need-to-know basis sometimes. Which frankly...is a bit of a bummer. But like I said, I will post up the interview when it's finished.


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Speaking of Cooper, I don't know how well he was trained (if at all) in the use of a chute, but I always wondered why he told Mucklow 'I don't need that' when he was offered the instructions provided with the chutes. I have seen this quoted several times as an exchange between Mucklow and Cooper. If the quote is true, then I think this proves he wasn't a complete novice with a ripcord.



He said, "I don't need that", because he didn't need that.

I have never bought into the idea that he was a novice.
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Look, I don't want to make too big a deal of this but I was sent some screenshots today taken at the alternate website. Nothing really bad or terrible, but I saw Galen Cook is still claiming that Skipp Porteous and I had a falling out and he stays as far from me as possible.

So I would like to set the record straight on this issue.

1) Skipp Porteous and I communicate on a regular basis, mostly by email. The last time was maybe two weeks ago.

2) Porteous told me he hasn't communicated with Galen Cook in 'about three years'. (his words) He also says he isn't angry with Mr Cook for the things he has said, but is more disappointed in him.

3) Porteous has a contract with us and owns an even share of any screenplay based on the book regarding KC, and the same with the book itself.

4) Gayla Prociv and I have an open invitation to visit Mr. Porteous anytime at his home in California and stay in the guest bedroom. He has said repeatedly he would like to meet me. (We've never actually met in person)
He lives south of San Francisco, near the beach.

Galen Cook can say what he wishes, but there you have it. If you want to verify the things I listed, just email Skipp Porteous and ask. His email address is easy to find, and it's public.

And after you verify these things, and discover I wasn't making them up...perhaps we can go back to Cooper.


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So many over the yrs have tried to aid me....I dissed some I should never have dissed.

A ton of bricks hit me today!

An individual contacted me about 2 yrs ago - his story had some things that I was AWARE of, but he went off the deep end with all of this as we all have a tendancy to do so....I have been trying to contact him - but the number goes no where now.

The lad who contacted me - like myself only knew PARTS & CLIPS. He fabricated things - but, his basic knowledge was like my own - fragmented...he was only 8 yrs old when his connection to Cooper came about...

But, in telling me about himself - 2 stories collided only briefly.

AWARE Air Base Constructors built private airports and airstips - not just military facilities.

Duane had told me about a man & Endersol Rand, When the a young man started his 1st conversation with me a few yrs ago - he mentioned Endersol Rand & then the name Elmer Lonn came up. His father or a friend of his father I assume was connected to the company. ( I forget the details, but I have 1/2 inch of printed correspondence with him).

Elmer Lonn could have been a name picked up from my prior enquiries many yrs ago...but the Endersol Rand - was what held my attention. Perhaps Elmer Lonn worked for Endersol Rand - but who developed Endersol Rand
What was Endersol Rand in the 40's, 50's and 60's?

Why GOD sees fit to endow me with the knowledge I needed over the yrs and to find the connections at this time in my life - I do not understand.

I would never have put together all of this had it NOT been for those 2 damn Books I have cursed over the yr - like 377 often looks at his twenty and wishes it could talk.

Well, I had Books with names in them & and insight in to the past. Those Books didn't talk to me either - I just knew they were Duane's connection to all of this and to his past....he kept them concealed from me until 1993 just 2 yrs before he died and then he put them in PLANE site. But, the one time I used one of them - he was frantic - telling me to be very careful. I ASKED WHO THE GIRL was in the picture - thinking maybe it was a picture of his daughter.

Elmer Lonn & Endersol Rand - this was part of why this young man contacted me, but he went too far trying to convince me of "his story about this". In doing so he like myself defeated his purpose and got lost in the chase.

Elmer Lonn of Endersol Rand - they provided heavy equipment for the air base and airport construction....is probably not the man Duane mentioned because I was under the impression the man would have been older. But, then I do not know how old Elmer Lonn is or if he is a junior or the history of Endersol Rand. At one time 377 referenced me to some information - but it seem insignificant - and nothing connected unto today!

Our road was being worked on today and the heavy equipment - jogged something inside of me hidden so deeply it took my breath away - literally.

This equipment has been going for 2 days on my small street - the sound and the dust and the pounding - all of that equipment.
It was rattling my nerves.

For some reason when they pulled off today - memories flooded my mind...

Duane mentioning Indersol Rand & the Heavy Equipment. Then this coming back to me yrs later from a young man - who kept talking about Elmer Lonn of Endersol Rand

THE MOMENT!

AWARE built airports. Endersol Rand supplied the equipment needed. Duane's obcession with airstrips and he seemed to know where very one of them was located in WA. The towers located near the airport. The communications systems relating to the airlines and airstrip and flight in general.

WE all MISSED it - because there was so many with just a piece of the story - not one of us knew the entire story...we may never know the entire story.

If Duane helped construct the airstrips in WA and other places from the things he said over the yrs....things I have until a few moments ago NEVER put together -we have a connection worth chasing.

It was all of the noise and the carbon monoxide that started the wheels turning today. Maybe I am high because of the fumes?

It was after all of it got quiet and then this hit me like a ton of bricks

This is too long and too rambling - NO one will understand what I am trying to say.
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It's incredulous that someone would have that much on the ball immediately after the high jacking to send in phoney letters mailed from different cities. If the jumper was "Dan Cooper" , the writer's personality seems more based on "Klondike Kat's " nemesis "Savoir Faire" ie." Savoir Faire is everywhere!" Did he have help on the ground?

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Zero evidence that Cooper was the person who wrote those letters to the press.

What is truly amazing (unless he was the author of the letters ;)) is Al Di's deciphering of the exact magazine source of the cut out text.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tS_XP7GekGlB8idOZUK3ffGgcdUyfe3ipR5hFm0p3vY/edit?hl=en_US

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I guess that is the name. But I just had another SHOCK wave!

Remember all the airports Duane said "The guys flew in and out of" - When I asked what they did - he just said he couldn't talk about it....

ALL of those AIRSTRIPS & small airports where he talked about flying in and out of with the GUYS. Wonder what name he was living under then?

Oh my GOD, I made this complicated & it is so simple - but, I proposed it before & NO one CARED and I let it go.

The Airstrips & small airports - (so many of them)....This is when he talked about the guys & the places they ate.

If they were building airstrips & airports & installing the communications systems and evidently someone within that was a friend of the family. The man Duane had his picture made with in The Dalles - that was a relative.
Need to find the names of every fireman (volunteer or paid) in The Dalles from 1944 to 1971. Surely they have that even if they do not have the picture.

OH MY GOD! WE did it - we or I or God found the link. They need the names of the strips and any pictures made of the construction and the builder who helped build these place.

It is ALL there - it is ALL here! WE have done it. Who would have paid any attention to a young man who was a friend of the family or one of the workers? I have a feeling the manual workers were bused in...but remember Duane had family connections in WA.

The jump areas needed airstips - it was ALL right in front of us all of this time. Now I know why Ralph couldn't identifiy any of the pictures - Duane wasn't a jumper - he help build the airstrips or related to someone who did build them...the names that his SISTER kept telling me in our last phone conversation to write them down.

I did the best I could, but I just wrote them the way they sounded. She told me she would not be able to talk to me after she moved - she did write me a letter after she moved and before she died, but she didn't say anymore about the names she told me I had to remember.

Her son was career military & I guess she thought the truth would tarnish his career - I don't know - I never spoke to him. Maybe his mother never told him - I would think this the most likely.

Duane's sister was socially respected and she did not want her own name tarnished - to be remembered as the sister of Cooper.

Who would remember one of the contruction guys or their relative who was along for the ride. Several yrs before the crime.

Hately would have been a boy himself - and he is younger than Duane....but then again I do not know the time frames Duane was doing this - makes me wonder about his criminal records and how accurate they are.

Help me out guys - NOW all of the things Duane said make sense. What were the time frames Duane would have been doing this other than those yrs surrounding McNeil and afterwards...surely San Quentin nor Folsom had a program that would have allowed him to do something like that....and Jefferson - hell we know it was not in that time frame.

FINDING out when the airstrips and facilities were built or improved at all of the sites Duane mentioned are iimportant. My maps are packed away and I am unable to get them.

Remember Duane talked about Nevada, Oregon, Washington and Ca when he talked about these things....I sensed the remorse when he told me about the fire that killed so many of the BOYS.

NOW it makes sense what Duane said about getting a BOY in trouble - but was he a BOY or a MAN at the time?

Did Cooper find himself in a bind and injured - and contact an OLD friend. More than like that is what happened.

Did that old friend help him out after the fact - and kept it to himself all of these yrs up until he died in 2004. But my guess is he did NOT know Duane's real name.

Perhaps the guy helped Weber out in 1971, but didn't know he was Cooper. Just an old friend who needed some help.... maybe he didn't know until after the fact when he saw Margie's article in 2001.

"I knew a boy I got in some trouble there and I can never go back"..what was he talking about - who was the boy? He basically at that time was talking about Spokane and Coure d'Alene...he talked about a hunting area also.

"THE BOYS" how damn vague could he have been? He may have after the fact learned Ralph had birds, but he talked like he knew the man. Ralph is younger than Duane - and Ralph as a young man was Green Beret and he is a respected citizen...but, Duane did know who he was. Duane was just a guy who worked to build the strips and set up the towers...Ralph would not have known him. Duane was a man one could look right through - unless he sang for them.

The guy who contacted Ralph is the same name Duane told me. This guy went to Ralph after he saw the pictures in the Oregonian - and realized he knew the joker, but evidently not under the name of Duane L. Weber or John Collins.

Afraid he would be implimented in the crime is why he wanted immunity!

The man tried to contact Margie - God, I wish we had Margie's old files - to see what email address the guy used...he gave no name I remember that - and we did not discuss the email address...hell I didn't know much about computers at that time or now. Not enough to have asked for the email address.

I bought my first computer in 2000 and it was 2001 when Margie did the article...maybe the first time the guy had seen pictures of a suspect named Weber...

DAMN the FBI for NOT giving that man immunity - DAMN them!
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Read down the page. Some interesting alleged facts about Ralph Hatley.

http://patriotaction.net/m/blogpost?id=2600775%3ABlogPost%3A4439954

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You do know that Ralph has located and turned in criminals and molesters.
I forgot where I read this but I was looking up Ralph Hatley's name and it regarded a county that has come up in research regarding Cooper and Weber....Clackamas County - not sure I am spelling it correctly. Seems like Ralph does NOT like the fact that law enforcement can and does use their status or profession to commit crimes and to evade punishment.

Ralph sound like a good citizen to me.
I know he was a Green Beret, but little else. Maybe it is not the right Ralph Hatley. It is a relatively common name in that area...

Seem like a pretty nice guy with what I have found....straight forward and with a very good reputation.
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It's incredulous that someone would have that much on the ball immediately after the high jacking to send in phoney letters mailed from different cities. If the jumper was "Dan Cooper" , the writer's personality seems more based on "Klondike Kat's " nemesis "Savoir Faire" ie." Savoir Faire is everywhere!" Did he have help on the ground?




Maybe Dan Cooper wrote all those letters on the plane as he circled Sea-Tac for two hours.

You know how times drags when you're going around in circles.

Wait. Dan would have had to know that his name was gonna be changed to DB.

Hmmmm. Oh, well, another Great Theory shot down.

The Bigger Question is: Who is Al Di? aka "Idla"....

My money's on Curtis. Maybe that's my ticket to fame and fortune: The Al Di Lottery!

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No, I didn't know that Mrs. Cooper. How do you know that?

More to the point, though, has he ever called Georgia Child Protective Services? I suppose I'll have to ask him in October.

I was telling my therapist today of my heroics over the weekend and she told me she has had to deal with GA CPS and their lousy phones, so we commiserated professionally, so to speak.

Small World.

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Read down the page. Some interesting alleged facts about Ralph Hatley.

http://patriotaction.net/m/blogpost?id=2600775%3ABlogPost%3A4439954

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I suppose I'll be asking Hats about MAC-V-SOG, too! The list is sure growing. Thanx, TSS for the link.

I wonder when the last time Ralph met a left-wing pinko liberal journalist on Obamacare who talks with Billy Waugh!

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No, I didn't know that Mrs. Cooper. How do you know that?

More to the point, though, has he ever called Georgia Child Protective Services? I suppose I'll have to ask him in October.

I was telling my therapist today of my heroics over the weekend and she told me she has had to deal with GA CPS and their lousy phones, so we commiserated professionally, so to speak.

Small World.

I suppose I'll be asking Hats about MAC-V-SOG, too! The list is sure growing. Thanx, TSS for the link.

I wonder when the last time Ralph met a left-wing pinko liberal journalist on Obamacare who talks with Billy Waugh!


It's only 'heroics' if you don't brag about your actions, or post folks' personal info on the internet in a pathetic effort to make yourself look cool, or promote your position within 'Cooper Royalty' (a group based entirely in myth that few care about anyway except other 'royalty')

You should know that skydivers actually READ this thread, some of whom hang out at Hatley's DZ. Which means you have about as much chance of a decent interview with him now as I have of getting my cat Hobo to talk. ;)

Problem is, sometimes you just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, even when it is in your best interests to do so.


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No, I didn't know that Mrs. Cooper. How do you know that?

More to the point, though, has he ever called Georgia Child Protective Services? I suppose I'll have to ask him in October.

I was telling my therapist today of my heroics over the weekend and she told me she has had to deal with GA CPS and their lousy phones, so we commiserated professionally, so to speak.

Small World.

I suppose I'll be asking Hats about MAC-V-SOG, too! The list is sure growing. Thanx, TSS for the link.

I wonder when the last time Ralph met a left-wing pinko liberal journalist on Obamacare who talks with Billy Waugh!


It's only 'heroics' if you don't brag about your actions, or post folks' personal info on the internet in a pathetic effort to make yourself look cool, or promote your position within 'Cooper Royalty' (a group based entirely in myth that few care about anyway except other 'royalty')

You should know that skydivers actually READ this thread, some of whom hang out at Hatley's DZ. Which means you have about as much chance of a decent interview with him now as I have of getting my cat Hobo to talk. ;)

Problem is, sometimes you just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, even when it is in your best interests to do so.

Yup, keeping my mouth shut is an issue for me from time to time.

But more importantly, do you consider me a hero, Bobby?

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I can't keep this up much longer. I have too many problems & issues to deal with on a personal level right now.

I respect what Shutter is trying to do in that other place, but after reading most of it - it is pretty far off base.

All of the problem makers seem to be there now....I do not envy Shutter's job keeping them in line.

Finally Georger & Cook have a place they can throw around false information and keep everyone confused. NOTE how all of the stories changed over the yrs.

Homid had SOLID theories & facts, but finally he just had to step away - it is useless to work toward a goal when you have others who only want to chat or play with the facts & to distort the basics. The Facts have become obsured within the muck.

If I can get to WA there are a select few I would love to meet. Ralph Hatley, Sailshaw, 377, Bennett, Amazon, Homid, Snowman & others who have offered & have help me to find the things I could not find on my own.

Over the yrs there have been so many who have tried to help. Some whose names I just cannot pull out of my brain at this moment that I would like to thank and to actually meet all of them.

Many have provided me with information - and some whose real names I do not know & exchanges outside of the thread.

Those I have NO interest in meeting are Georger and Bruce and Cook along with others whose only agenda as been to seek and destroy or distort. I like Robert Belvins as he has always been kind, but I do not respect what he is doing nor his methods or reasons.

Unfortunate there are so many brilliant minds here whose intellect if they could be objective and filter thru the hearsay over the internet and all could have 30 days on site to explore & study the area with pictures of how things looked in 1971 versus how they have changed over the yrs....But, who has the money to provide such an event?

How many would actually apply themselves to an objective effort and how would one keep out those whose only reason would be to prove a specific suspect was Cooper. To assemble & view with old timers of the area (there are only a few still left alive)...and the developement is rampant. Nothing looks like it used to look....it would require pictures from the 70's.

I would love to go back in time to what I actually remember - but that is not to be. It will never be and those whose objectives are only to profit off of Cooper or to distort the facts to meet their own agendas have and continue to distort the FACTS of the crime to the point of being ridiculous.

Playing with theories is one thing - actually changing the known truths is another.

Wish the proof would just drop out of the sky at my feet, but that is not going to happen....it has been 18 yr since I found out who Dan Cooper was and 43 since the crime was committed.

When they were looking for evidence of Weber in Wa they forgot to check - incidents where parties were pulled over for drunk driving...perhaps one of them was more sober than the other and they were allow to go on their was or get a taxie to their destination. ALL three names in ONE car and at the right time - was no coincidence....ages give where a little different - but all of the names were correct. Now that information is no longer available.

Oh,Well! I have given it all I have. Now I just have to figure out how to move on. I forgot to live my own life in the process and now it is too late, but I sure would love to have the answers - but, I guess that was NOT meant to be.

THere is NO more evidence & the ones who actually knew something - the fragments they knew & their memories of incidents was not enough to get the FBI to take action.

Marla went to WA and dragged thethe FBI thru Muck....wonder what would have happend if I had done that in 1996?

Why the FBI let Marla get away with what she did will always be a puzzle to me..

Good night!
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'Yup, keeping my mouth shut is an issue for me from time to time.

But more importantly, do you consider me a hero, Bobby?'



I don't want to come down TOO hard on you. There are degrees of poor judgment. For example, jaywalking across an empty street is no big deal. Running across a busy freeway is something else.

There was nothing wrong with you calling people to ensure the kid was okay. Posting it all up on the internet negates the hero factor and places your actions more in self-serving mode. Not the smartest thing to do, but not inherently evil either. I think enough has been said about it.

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'I respect what Shutter is trying to do in that other place, but after reading most of it - it is pretty far off base.
All of the problem makers seem to be there now....I do not envy Shutters job keeping them in line.

Finally Georger & Cook have a place they can throw around false information and keep everyone confused.'



Doesn't matter. They only keep themselves confused. Few people see that stuff except for the other users there. It's not a public discussion site. It's a convention. Greg the Techie Guy and I meet up at his place about once a month to discuss his latest book acquistions and where AB is going, etc. About every other time we take a look at the site just for laughs. Unless it's really crazy there, we tend to just let it go. Nobody from the general public is seeing anything there much anyway. We can tell by looking at total views since our last visit.

I have to admit I never expected Galen Cook to simply start making shit up off the top of his head, though. Like Porteous, I was completely surprised by that. Cook's a known Cooper investigator and an attorney, not some anonymous person with an ordinary interest in the case, although he does have a username there. That stuff from him came totally out of left field.


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I have to admit I never expected Galen Cook to simply start making shit up off the top of his head, though. Like Porteous, I was completely surprised by that. Cook's a known Cooper investigator and an attorney, not some anonymous person with an ordinary interest in the case, although he does have a username there. That stuff from him came totally out of left field.




Well, he has been doing it since HE first contact me....around 2003 and he kept evolving and has had multiple suspects over the yrs. He used others I am sure the way he has used me. Bruce is to naive or greedy to know this individual has also used him.

The old printed Emails I have from him & the rest are on my aol account....I know I need to start printing those. but I have so many issues I have put it off. I do have a word file I have saved many of his emails to and the ones on AOL need to be moved to that - it is just time consuming. To print them all the way I used to is just too costly. The early ones were simply printed and punched and put in large ringed binders.

I have just lost interest in a man whose manners & means or objectives are only to agitate & to be cruel..., I know I need to make finishing the file on him a priority - but, is it even worth the effort...other than to provide evidence of the manipulation used in the Cooper story...just in the event someday someone proves Duane or another suspect was Cooper.

I think there is enough in my file for someone to write a book about his exploration and his using & manipulating others then claiming the information as his own about his unlikely suspect. Why one man could knowingly cause so much grief for anyone who has a suspect is actually unbelievable unless they actually read all of the transactions....this includes my responses to him.

I do know he interviewed Ralph Hately - per what I was told by Cook and Ralph. None of this I am saying viciously because I actually saved ever email he sent me & I sent him. At one time I actually trusted the man - but, with his actions the last few yrs - NO way!

He took what he acquired from me and twisted it for his own purpose & made some of it about his own subject....remember at the time I was communicating with Galen - I had very little access to investigate things - so I trustingly made him privey to those things - like the prints on the aft stairs and everyone KNOWS he applied that to his suspect changing the dream to a judge.
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