DB Cooper

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RobertMBlevins

Pretty defensive regarding Christiansen aren't you? I see your quote from Agent Carr and those others. Here's another from Agent Gutt in Seattle:

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"Your assumption that Christiansen has been eliminated is wrong. Some here (in the Seattle office) believe he is a good suspect. Others believe there are better suspects..."

Just saying.

Pretty defensive? why wouldn't I be. I see a lot of misinformation floating around.

why are you so defensive? when it gets hot, you pull the "I'm no longer answering any questions regarding KC" card (*laughs*)

Kenny doesn't fit the description, the evidence is a mythic pile of nothing. documents incorrect. no money trail to follow. it's logic over the defensive approach I'd say.....

Just saying

Added: Here is what your buddy Rataczak also said.....

"There’s been a lot of talk, some recently, about former purser Ken Christiansen being D. B. Cooper.
He was fully vetted by the F.B.I., who determined he was not a person of interest."

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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mrshutter45

***Pretty defensive regarding Christiansen aren't you? I see your quote from Agent Carr and those others. Here's another from Agent Gutt in Seattle:

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"Your assumption that Christiansen has been eliminated is wrong. Some here (in the Seattle office) believe he is a good suspect. Others believe there are better suspects..."

Just saying.

Pretty defensive? why wouldn't I be. I see a lot of misinformation floating around.

why are you so defensive? when it gets hot, you pull the "I'm no longer answering any questions regarding KC" card (*laughs*)

Kenny doesn't fit the description, the evidence is a mythic pile of nothing. documents incorrect. no money trail to follow. it's logic over the defensive approach I'd say.....

Just saying

Added: Here is what your buddy Rataczak also said.....

"There’s been a lot of talk, some recently, about former purser Ken Christiansen being D. B. Cooper.
He was fully vetted by the F.B.I., who determined he was not a person of interest."

Here's another quote:

"Blevins? Blevins who?"

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Robert99

Jo,

Fourth, Duane DID NOT have anything to with the CIA or the firms you mentioned even though you wrote him into that story you copied from the CIA's web page.

Robert99

Jo was not part of the whatever Jack you were chasing.

Definitely do NOT need a shrink - but minds not open to exploration might need to see one.

MOST important - WHAT CIA article did I take my information or questions or statements from???

99% of what I have told I had heard out of the mouth of Weber over the 18 yrs I was with him...The research that got my attention was when IT MATCHED the things he told me, but in 3rd person. I used to know a guy....
But when you put the 3rd person stories together you find out it was really something he had experienced....

For Instance when he told me about the man who was arrested in Fla and when asked about his occupation said "Crook I guess" THEN I find out that person was really Duane Weber and an arrest the FBI NEVER told me about...I found out about that on this thread......

Just the most obvious example and one that was PROVEN - not by the FBI, but by this THREAD on the DZ!

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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RobertMBlevins

***Until someone can put a name to an FBI agent that thinks KC is a good suspect, I will continue to believe there are none. I don't think there are many people at all that buy KC as a viable suspect.

I discussed this point twice with the Seattle FBI, and at that time they were actually returning phone calls and emails. (These days they do it by email mostly)

Kept getting the same answer, one from Gutt, one from another agent. Gutt also confirmed that Christiansen has NEVER been investigated or 'vetted' by the FBI in the Cooper case. Neither has the DNA comparison been done from the sample Lyle Christiansen provided to the Minneapolis office agents who visited his home. To put it bluntly, not a single FBI agent has ever explored a single piece of evidence presented on Christiansen. Or bothered to question even ONE of the witnesses we provided for them. We already know why. It's because these days they want the case handed to them on a silver platter first, or they're not lifting a finger. I guess after forty plus years and no more money in the Cooper budget I can understand this attitude. Which only made us decide to work harder.

Reason given by SOME agents in Seattle why Kenny isn't a suspect: They say he has a level of expertise in skydiving above what they believe the hijacker had, and they think he doesn't the fit the description. That's it. No investigation. No 'vetting'.

We (AB staff) say that due to what has been presented, and what will be presented in the updated report, that this is not enough to dismiss him offhandedly.

Shutter: I have read your comments back there. It's amusing to see you complaining about me 'no longer answering questions on Kenny' when you're the same guy who decided to block our office computers from even VIEWING your website. Yet...you jump over here to Dropzone at will, commenting on my posts HERE. The last one wasn't even directed at you, but Robert99. Are you like his lawyer or something? Twilight Zone 'Four o' Clock' with folks we've worked hard to earn trust with.

You have your own site on the case and I wish you guys well. In fact, I hope you come up with something solid on the case. But I don't owe you any answers to anything. You keep going on about the money, but I told you a long time ago that it was never really about the money, not completely. That's just a part of it, and we already know here at AB exactly how the arrangements on the Bonney Lake home and the loan to Dawn Androsko went down. Exactly.

We're just not telling you about it. Or didn't you wonder how the KC report suddenly expanded from 29 to 53 pages? Do you think we slammed the investigation back into high gear on Kenny over the last few months? If you answered 'yes,' you would be right.

While you worry about some house docs, we figured out that good witnesses with solid testimony (who can provide information known only to the hijacker) was more likely to crack the case wide open, rather than just paperwork. That's our main focus, and we are getting very close on that. Not to say we're on the verge of proving Kenny was Cooper. Sure, that's very possible. But the real goal is to either make the case on him once and for all, or prove for certain he wasn't involved. We have never believed that Cooper acted completely alone, or that no one knows today what happened. We think these people exist, and now we believe we have identified them. Some are known to you, others are not.

Trust? What is trust around Cooperland? It's a non-existent commodity. I'm not telling anyone anything about the guy we're investigating, or any further AB activities or business...unless you need to know. And you don't need to know.

When I get asked 'Well, if you aren't willing to provide info on KC, then why are you here?' My answer is simple. Because there are other things to discuss in the Cooper case besides Kenny Christiansen.

You said you were dropping the whole KC-thingy.

Wouldn't give info and other stuff of like-minded thingyness.

Guess not ...

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I KNOW he had something with him - and it might have been something so that another party could TRACK him after he was on the ground! I do KNOW it had something to do with something Duane put a certain towers....but, he mentioned the other 2 towers -noting they made a pyramid and he used the world pyramid - not triangle....and you will find this very very odd. I have a ring he wore on his pinky - a large triangle with several diamonds in it ---everyone comments on this ring. I had it sized and I wear it and it always gets attention - not because of size but because it is so unique.

Not at deaths door, but I am NOT well and was sent to another specialist (today) who is taking a different course of action...I will try anything just to be comfortable & avoid a 4th surgery..... The pain and nausea sometimes gets me down - but I force myself to eat and I refuse to take pain medication until I have tears running down my face.

That crap dulls the mind too much and makes you more suspectible to taking a fall...

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Shutter: I have read your comments back there. It's amusing to see you complaining about me 'no longer answering questions on Kenny' when you're the same guy who decided to block our office computers from even VIEWING your website. Yet...you jump over here to Dropzone at will, commenting on my posts HERE. The last one wasn't even directed at you, but Robert99. Are you like his lawyer or something? Smile It's your right to post wherever you wish, of course. And it's OUR right to make decisions regarding the release of information. Do you believe we're stupid enough to provide you with information that you would simply take over to YOUR website and discuss, without us even having the ability to view comments there on that information? Man...you must really think we're dumb. So the decision was made to freeze all outgoing information on Christiansen until we come to a conclusion about him. Hell, if I started dropping names and providing updates, it wouldn't be long before some of your users would be confronting people on their doorsteps or emailing them trash. Or calling them and whatever. It's not YOUR investigation, but OURS. You and your users do not deserve to either have the opportunity to trash us without repercussions, or start playing Twilight Zone 'Four o' Clock' with folks we've worked hard to earn trust with.


And why are you blocked from viewing that forum Mr. twisty? perhaps you joined under a phony name, and then after a simple block you used a proxy blocker illegally to get around the block. yes I remember well. months ago you were laughing and stating you can't stop me from VIEWING that site, and yet you continue to whine about something that was your FAULT.

what are you doing with other forums discussing KC? how can you control where and who can discuss it?

Trust you? you flip flop through just about everything you say. including not discussing KC.

"Sorry...wrong number. No more discussion by me about KC on public forums. See you the second Saturday of August, and then I'm out of the Cooper biz."

Now, you claim you are "freezing" information. several days ago the excuse was addresses? flip flop.

To date, I don't believe anyone has emailed, or contacted any of the people on your list. what I don't understand is the fact of trying to hide information that is about a Federal crime. these people have chosen to speak about it only to you. that's a problem. being open about other possibilities is part of the deal. what are you scared of?

For the record. who found the known problems with the KC saga? you know, the ones you admit to? you want the truth, but whine that we are not trust worthy? again, who found the problems? you would think you would continue to allow things to surface if the truth was the true intention here.

For the record. you obviously read Bruce's blog where I stated you were not welcome on my forum. I don't recall stating you were not allowed to VIEW it. then two days after the start of the forum you registered under the name DungeonsWizard. 10 days later you revealed who you really were. you were BANNED from the forum. this included your IP, just like it's done here! so, what did you do? you jumped on hidemyass.com and started taking screenshots (illegally) of a poster talking about you. absolutely nothing was said about you until your little stunt was performed. that's why you were BANNED, and that's why you can no longer VIEW it easily. you also agreed to the rules when you registered (see photo)

So, what is it you are whining about in general? it's all the fault of Robert M Blevins. it's kind of hard for you to slant, or skew the reasons Robert! blame nobody but yourself. you are not welcome on that forum. perhaps you understand now? I can provide a video if needed, or raise the volume for the hearing impaired?

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[MarkBennett 5]

Well, I've finally done it. I've just completed a 750 page PDF file that proves conclusively that actor Christopher Walken was the notorious DB Cooper.

I've talked to several witnesses who say he could be the hijacker and can prove that Mr. Walken has much more money after 1972 than he did before 1972.

You people who say he was too young or doesn't match the description are just haters! As a result, I don't trust any of you, so I won't be sharing the PDF! I will only share it with reporters who have won at least two Pulitzer prizes or with law enforcement officials who helped find Osama Bin Laden.

I know you guys really want to see it, but in the words of Albert Einstein "neener neener neener".

Because the truth is all that matters!

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RobertMBlevins

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'You said you were dropping the whole KC-thingy.

Wouldn't give info and other stuff of like-minded thingyness.

Guess not ...'

I didn't say I was dropping the investigation into KC. That was obvious. I said I couldn't provide any new information at this time. And I don't see anything in there that provides new info.

BTW: Did you warn (or ask permission) from 'Bruce Kitt, NWA Historian' that you planned to post his private phone call comments online?

You know...yesterday I posted up a lengthy comment you made back in 2008 on another Cooper thread. But then I thought it was a tad vindictive and took it down. You can see it if you wish, but I'm actually going to ASK you first if you mind if others see it.

Warning: The post makes it obvious that your smarmy attack-dog comments are nothing new, and that I am not the first person you've engaged in this manner.

Just the LATEST one. Kitt. Yes or no? View post. Yes or no? Easy questions, even easier answers.

When are YOU going to stop claiming to be other people?

And speaking, thinking, and acting in their place, as if you were them! ?

There is something wrong with you, boy. You ain't a room at Motel 6! And you don't have special powers either.

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MarkBennett

Well, I've finally done it. I've just completed a 750 page PDF file that proves conclusively that actor Christopher Walken was the notorious DB Cooper.

I've talked to several witnesses who say he could be the hijacker and can prove that Mr. Walken has much more money after 1972 than he did before 1972.

You people who say he was too young or doesn't match the description are just haters! As a result, I don't trust any of you, so I won't be sharing the PDF! I will only share it with reporters who have won at least two Pulitzer prizes or with law enforcement officials who helped find Osama Bin Laden.

I know you guys really want to see it, but in the words of Albert Einstein "neener neener neener".

Because the truth is all that matters!

Can we expect a screenplay? Looking forward to it.

Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

[Amazon 7]

And yet another takes the low dive into the fine art of floccinaucinihilipilification.

[mrshutter45 21]

"There is no use in discussing this any further. Each has their own side to this story"


No Robert, there will only be the truth remaining. that's how it's done. I will continue to to discuss it, and I will investigate it. that's what these forums are suppose to be used for, to discuss evidence, analyze, and research any given topic. you don't like it? tough. you can't have it one way.

You had no problem looking into Marla's story, the same now goes for the KC saga. when I see problems in a story. I check it out for validation. once it's all been checked out, and properly researched. I will show my findings just as you did. it's no different, except the proper documents to backup what has been said will be included.

When you have documents incorrectly reported, stories that turn out to be untrue, and other possibilities why someone has money. it needs to be added to the story. it seems some have been purposely left out. you can't just make things look good. especially when you are accusing the living of a Federal offense. all four corners of the box needs to be checked. you seem to be missing several corners to most of the conclusions.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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EVickiW

***Well, I've finally done it. I've just completed a 750 page PDF file that proves conclusively that actor Christopher Walken was the notorious DB Cooper.

I've talked to several witnesses who say he could be the hijacker and can prove that Mr. Walken has much more money after 1972 than he did before 1972.

You people who say he was too young or doesn't match the description are just haters! As a result, I don't trust any of you, so I won't be sharing the PDF! I will only share it with reporters who have won at least two Pulitzer prizes or with law enforcement officials who helped find Osama Bin Laden.

I know you guys really want to see it, but in the words of Albert Einstein "neener neener neener".

Because the truth is all that matters!

Can we expect a screenplay? Looking forward to it.


I hope he is willing to speak to the media, and LEO. you know, that pesky trust thingy.....

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[377 21]

Jo,

You cant possibly KNOW that Duane installed nav devices on those three towers. Its just a wild guess and, in my opinion, an incorrect one.

As I posted before:

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Cooper wasn't flying the plane or giving detailed navigation orders to the crew. So what use was all this alleged high tech gear he had? Cooper probably could do some eyeball position estimating through breaks in the clouds if he knew the area. What need would there be for precision navigation gear if you are not controlling the flight path? It might help you determine a good exit point but eyeball nav would do that too. McCoy and Heady landed amazingly close to their intended destinations and neither had anything but eyeball nav.

So given the above what sense would it make for Cooper to have elaborate covert electronic navigation gear?

I am VERY glad to learn that you are not on death's doorstep. I hope the docs can help to resolve what currently ails you.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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From a retired smoke jumper friend:

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Also, an aside, I saw the movie Ben Hur last week on the big screen and wondered how they found so many brown eyed actors. From wiki -
"Because both Boyd and Heston had blue eyes, Wyler had Boyd outfitted with brown contact lenses as a way of contrasting the two men." This was 1958/59.

Hmmmm... Does this put Ted Braden or Sheridan Peterson back on the list of possibles?

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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RobertMBlevins

I noticed that Georger dodged the question about whether he warned Bruce Kitt (or asked permission) to post Kitt's private phone comments on the internet. I have to assume by his non-answer that he simply played a dirty trick on Kitt and then embarrassed the guy to boot. At least when I interviewed people I asked permission to video or voice record them, and told them I was taking notes for an ongoing investigation. The only exception to this was the first fifteen minutes with Bernie Geestman. But beyond that point, he knew what was going on...and why.

I got to pack. I will return on Saturday, but I have to go to a party when I return over at Greg's. Maybe we will take a look at your site and have a laugh. Five bucks says I see serious posts there from some of the same users here you keep leaping in to defend. Users who come to Dropzone simply to empty their trash on others...

Because you are in Washington, you are required by federal law to issue a statement to the other person when recording a conversation. Washington is a two-party consent state. However, in Minnesota and Iowa, it is a one-party consent state. Any recorded comments between two people are not considered private and only one party needs to know it is being recorded or used outside of the conversation.

If Kitt said something in yours, Decoded or KC's favor, would you still be upset about it?

And...I would tell you all about my upcoming weekend and every trivial detail, but it is really nunya. Get it? Ever hear of over sharing?

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o·ver·share
verb
reveal an inappropriate amount of detail about one's personal life.

EDITED TO ADD: Why do you think Kitt would be embarrassed? I think you are embarrassed for touting him like you have been and then a phone call was made. Then the call verifies his feeling about KC, Decoded and you. Did you ask him permission to post his travel plans to Seattle along with his intentions to attend your slideshow presentation?

Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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I keep telling you....I don't need you, I don't need your permission for anything. the Knoss story growing is all to familiar. so, rattle on with the new big findings.

Documents don't lie, people do.

Have 3 or 4 laughs. why don't we just link the sites. it will save you a lot of time?

You have a problem with Georger. take it up with him. I have nothing to do with what goes on between you guys. If Kitt said those things, what will happen? nothing. if he burned a bridge to prove something. so be it.

You make mountains out of molehills. very similar to the KC saga. I'll tell you what I tell Knoss. prove it! all I've seen is misinformation, incorrect documents, false statements. speculation to the max. Bernie is a liar according to Robert, Decoded says, I believe him? ya, the FBI wants a piece of this chicken (*laughs*)

The biggest hurdle for ya is Tina. remember? she had to look up at Cooper. isn't Tina 5'8"...isn't Kenny 5' 8"

He is not a viable suspect.....Ayn Dietrich FBI.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Larry Carr FBI ..reference to Lyle Christiansen.

She insists all the suspects still being touted by Cooper sleuths have been ruled out — either because they don't match the DNA or fingerprints they have on file, or because the descriptions just don't match up.

So are we now close to finally having a real suspect in the decades-old case? reference to Marla...

Now, see the bold letters FBI? isn't that the very same people you claim that know where Cooper jumped, and where the plane was? why is that correct, and the above not? isn't these the same smart guys you speak so highly of, or until Kenny is brought up? or anything that could relate to it?

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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When I came the DZ in 2004 requesting assistance on the subject & a suspect - I never expected the thread to evolve into a Promotional medium for a writer.

Unfamiliar with forums or blogs this thread seemed to stay basically on topic...until Blevins took over....he made it all about his book on a suspect & to PROMOTE his book. Any investigations into any suspect - was stifled by Blevins.

He came to the thread at our invitation & jumpers & Cooper experts at DZ showed him his errors. All of you guys with the chute info & others with their knowledge of the Cooper case helped him to make his book at least factual in some aspects of the crime.

WELL - What we did was create a Cooper Bigfoot! Yea, that is what I call Blevins - he is a myth - NO, he is a NIGHTMARE.

The Cooper thread can no longer carry on objective discussions about any other subject, discuss the mechanics of the jump or to explore any subject....

One might say the same things about me...but, I came here to explore & learn. I did NOT come here to SELL a book & I have accepted the knowledge & acknowledged the DZ participants for all of the help they have provide.

I had some fun and some really bad times.....we discussed other subjects. The DZ became the place to go to - regarding information about D.B.Cooper.

NOW the thread had BECOME useless as a medium to discuss any of the technical aspects or suspects...all because of Blevins & his promotions.

Everyday I come here & hope we can discuss Cooper & seek out clues & hope someone comes to the DZ looking for information and clues. Vicky is a good example -she is still lookng for her father & frankly because of other things only I know - maybe he was. The counterfeit 20's and a news article Duane made a comment about.

BUT, I can't prove it & she can't prove it....they were both criminals maybe they just crossed trails in jail. Maybe both of them were part of a group...or just 2 men looking for an easy way out. Maybe there is no connection.

The DZ thread on Cooper attracted Vickie to come here and that is why I came here - for REAL information and for clues. Some one else might find something strange in some old items their grandfather had & the seek out the reason.

Now we have lost the objective of the thread and it is NO longer a place to discuss the mechanics of the jump or suspects.

Originally we discussed other suspects & the mechanics of the jump & the 727. NOW it is all ABOUT a man selling a BOOK! He was invited to come here because he really needed help on technical aspects & we wanted to explore Kenny as a suspect.

LITTLE did we know we were creating THE BIG FOOT NIGHTMARE. Yea, I still think Weber was Cooper - but there is NO book or movie or other motives. There are stories yet to be told.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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RobertMBlevins

***"There is no use in discussing this any further. Each has their own side to this story"


No Robert, there will only be the truth remaining. that's how it's done. I will continue to to discuss it, and I will investigate it. that's what these forums are suppose to be used for, to discuss evidence, analyze, and research any given topic. you don't like it? tough. you can't have it one way.

You had no problem looking into Marla's story, the same now goes for the KC saga. when I see problems in a story. I check it out for validation. once it's all been checked out, and properly researched. I will show my findings just as you did. it's no different, except the proper documents to backup what has been said will be included.

When you have documents incorrectly reported, stories that turn out to be untrue, and other possibilities why someone has money. it needs to be added to the story. it seems some have been purposely left out. you can't just make things look good. especially when you are accusing the living of a Federal offense. all four corners of the box needs to be checked. you seem to be missing several corners to most of the conclusions.

That's all well and good, although some of your statements are more opinion than fact. And I hope you do well investigating KC. Realistically though, you should not expect any help from me, or for me to verify or comment on anything you discover about his possible involvement in the hijacking.

Your worries are for nothing regarding Christiansen. We know a lot more about the situation on him then we did 120 days ago.

I noticed that Georger dodged the question about whether he warned Bruce Kitt (or asked permission) to post Kitt's private phone comments on the internet. I have to assume by his non-answer that he simply played a dirty trick on Kitt and then embarrassed the guy to boot. At least when I interviewed people I asked permission to video or voice record them, and told them I was taking notes for an ongoing investigation. The only exception to this was the first fifteen minutes with Bernie Geestman. But beyond that point, he knew what was going on...and why.

I got to pack. I will return on Saturday, but I have to go to a party when I return over at Greg's. Maybe we will take a look at your site and have a laugh. Five bucks says I see serious posts there from some of the same users here you keep leaping in to defend. Users who come to Dropzone simply to empty their trash on others...

Sour grapes of course.

I notice you havent called me a liar this time - you havent
attacked the information - so you attack my 'permission'?

So Hypocrite Blevins: who gave you and Producer Kagin
"permission" to hide and bypass Kitt's information freely given to
Meltzer from appearing on your "staged and manipulated"
Decoded show on Kenny Christiansen?

Packing - leaving? Well of course you dont want to discuss it!

Doesn't Jo call this: "Sneaky snake" ?

Did you have Kitt's PERMISSION to hide his real feelings
and information when it counted... while also cherry picking a
few of his remarks an calling it "testimony!" to make it appear he
supported your theory that KC was DB Cooper, for the purpose
of producing a favorable Decoded program with you a major
player?

You say "we don't know you" ?

Will the real RobertMBlevins please stand up?

(oh! There he is! The guy sneaking out the exit under cover of
darkness...)

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RobertMBlevins

Kitt's part in Decoded was reletively small, and was already in the can by the time they got around to me. So I can't speak for anything except for my experience with them, which was good. They never coached me, they never told me what to say or even made suggestions.

Marisa Kagan's office was in LA. She has nothing to do with filming of the show. Her job was to do research on the episodes that were in development for the show.

Kenny C was never investigated by the Seattle FBI. Never. He was dismissed as having a level of expertise in skydiving too extensive to have been Cooper. And for the description. Those reasons alone, when compared to the current evidence against him, are not enough to dismiss him without a cursory look by the FBI. That's an opinion, of course. And what Lyle Christiansen thinks or doesn't think matters little in the investigation because Lyle does not know whether his brother was Cooper. He has been a help in providing pictures, documents, and the like though. And no...the FBI hasn't run the DNA sample the Minneapolis agents took from him against the partial profile from the tie. I asked.

I'm still here because I leave in the early morning, but with the massive gear I take, I usually pack the day before...

I received two Cooper-related phone calls today. One from my co-writer on the script, the lady in Seattle that no one wants me to name because her first name and last initial match a famous stewardess from the hijacking. No big deal, I'm not releasing her name anyway. We discussed progress on the script, which is 90% complete now, and we will meet after the Fourth to go over it, as well as the storyboards.

The other call was from the witness we're going to interview, also after the Fourth. This person is ready to come forward, but will bring another person along for support. (We will give out a hard copy of the new report to them and discuss it together.) I'm bringing Gayla and Greg to the meeting as well. The truth is, I don't want to interview this person without witnesses being present, and this person has agreed to allow recording of the interview. The information gathered will be added to the new report on Christiansen. Yes, we are excited about this upcoming interview. The reason is because this person is in an extremely unique position to know the truth one way or another regarding Kenny/Bernie Geestman/the hijacking. Some phone statements by this witness indicate they understand the ramifications involved here, and we know what they are doing is going to take a great deal of courage. I can't explain it any further right now.

I don't think there's anything new other than that. A happy Fourth to you and yours...wherever you are.
Late Edit for Shutter: You understand of course that because you decided to block AB's office computers from viewing your site, (not POSTING, but just VIEWING) that some people might wonder why. Are you really so afraid of what we might see?

Well...welcome to the 21st century. You didn't block other staff members, and Greg looks whenever he wishes. And unless you're still continuing to block out networks, schools, libraries, phone access, etc (no wonder you can't get much new traffic LOL) I will be able see your site anytime I wish on the Samsung I recently ordered from Amazon.

Gayla lets me borrow her smartphone when I go camping, in case there is trouble. I've never tried to view your site on it, but just for laughs I might try while I'm up in the hills this week. She's got one of those unlimited plans.

The general opinion around here is you just haven't figured out the Information Age yet for what it actually is, and how it works. The only real loser here is YOU and YOUR site. We can look at it whenever we wish...or force you to block out millions of people at the same time in your efforts to prevent one single person from looking. Have we got the power over you or what? I would say yes. But you allow us this power.

You really should give it up and stop making yourself look uninformed, uneducated...and silly.

I really shouldn't tell you this stuff. You should have figured it out on your own a while ago. BTW: We meet with our witness on Sunday. You will NOT be updated with anything you can actually use. And we care not a whit whether that suits you or not.

Will the American Civil Liberties Union come to Bernie's defense
against Blevins and Gayler and Nelder and Page, and your new
witness the Rina de la Ranger ?

Does your canoe have a paddle ?

Do you have a license to practice Persecution?

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RobertMBlevins

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The other call was from the witness we're going to interview, also after the Fourth. This person is ready to come forward, but will bring another person along for support. (We will give out a hard copy of the new report to them and discuss it together.) I'm bringing Gayla and Greg to the meeting as well. The truth is, I don't want to interview this person without witnesses being present, and this person has agreed to allow recording of the interview.

The reason is because this person is in an extremely unique position to know the truth one way or another regarding Kenny/Bernie Geestman/the hijacking. Some phone statements by this witness indicate they understand the ramifications involved here, and we know what they are doing is going to take a great deal of courage. I can't explain it any further right now.

BTW: We meet with our witness on Sunday. You will NOT be updated with anything you can actually use. And we care not a whit whether that suits you or not.

Blevins - the man used 2 different emails with me (2012 & 2013) and another supposed real name and then he inlisted poor gullible Knoss recently to pretend to be the 3rd person....they forgot that JO keeps records. When I WOULD NOT go along & refused to fall for the scheme they changed gears!

[blue} Remember when Cossey got zapped... the man got angry with me just a few days before & went poof for 3 wks then Cossey comes up dead (it was Murder).

The man would get VERY angry with me on the phone & in emails. All of this happened after I found the SPOKANE connection - that the FBI ignored and that I contacted them about and wrote about in the forum.

At first I figured it was a couple of guys trying to get their PI's, but it could have been the same 2 men who spoofed Ms Marla Cooper.

He makes (supposedly) several trips to and from WA and interviews a man with the last name that starts with an M in Oregon. The man claimes to have buried something and he coudl prove Cooper was (Weber). He claimed to be ill and wanted these guys to wait a couple of yrs. I guess he was buying time due to an illness. His story was very close to the story I knew from others.

He claims a girl who became a woman was woring on the Oregon side of the River shelterd Weber and posistivily identified him...down to the green plasitic covered package he had. He asked to use the tellephone and tha a white Caddy with a blond in the back pulls up and he take them to nother location in Washington.

The man picking them him up drove a very fancy care - one of three supposedly given away to Boeing employees.

Now this man is sick and he wants to tell his story - but he has to have an audience - going to the autoriitys is not enough. Except back then Weber was his target.

It sounded like he borrowed a lot of his story from Max Gunther.
The investigator claims to work for the same company Duane told me about which is now housed in the midwest. The company name I knew well as Duane had told me about the founder of the company, but I didn't know its location.

At that time they reveal there ia another one in Seattle who is not ready to talk .....Now get this while the are doing that with you they wanted set me up to meet with Mr. M. when the time came.

After Cossey came up dead NO WAY!

The man also claimed to have wittness....still living and proof that was hidden. Supposedly he arranged for this hidden box to be delivered to him in Missour - it is an old Safe from Kanas and it reorginallly belonged to Weber.
He even sent me a picture of it., but it got his own reflection in it.

When you are talking to them you will hear heavly equipment moving in the back ground.

Then they had Knoss contactd me by email pretending the box had been delivered to them from the EAST. I hope I am getting all of this straight - but if the story is the same story - look out.

Long BORING story....wish you well sucker!
The man tries to side up with me again...he tells me about things I already knew and sends me pictures. I didn't think connected to skyjacking. He was fishing to see how much I knew.

I have the negatives of the pictures made at the wall - so they hid the evidence in several places.

SEE HOW CONVOLUTED THIS ALL SOUNDS....cant have s steak sandwich - they sette for baloney.

Remember this - Cossey came up dead the last time something like this went down! ONe of the guys supposedlly is calling from WA and is undergoing cancer treatment and eye surgery...Hey that is JUST no how ithey do it ....if you don't go along they will WHACK you or your girl friend?

They are probably NOT real - REAL game payers .... so what if one of them is 88 yrs old. A man who wants to make the record straight.

Why doesn't he go straight to the FBI himself with his wife.

What a convoluted story - who gets Wacked this time?

It is DONE!

Box is attache and study the reflection in the box caused by the cameraa flash!

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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"The general opinion around here is you just haven't figured out the Information Age yet for what it actually is, and how it works. The only real loser here is YOU and YOUR site. We can look at it whenever we wish...or force you to block out millions of people at the same time in your efforts to prevent one single person from looking. Have we got the power over you or what? I would say yes. But you allow us this power."

That's funny, I don't recall seeing your articles anywhere with the known Cooper sites? keep your audience. I don't want them Robert.

Show the power Robert. I would like to see people in the Cooper community speak of you, and I'm not talking about here. Is this more of your "I'm not trying to discredit the site"

The number one whiner in the United States:

"without us even having the ability to view comments there on that information?"

"We can look at it whenever we wish"...the flip flop thingy again you have probably said this 4 or 5 times, but I'm not going to look for all of them.

"It's not YOUR investigation, but OURS."
You think you own a investigation into a Federal crime? seriously? I hate to tell you but you can't really own an investigation. this proves once again how you are trying to control the TRUTH. sound the alarm! tell all people are coming to ask questions Robert screams! you would screenshot someone saying something like that about there story.

You keep failing to understand the forum is not designed for millions of viewers. I'm not in the numbers game Robert. that's your life. it will grow over time I'm sure. the main goal has been reached. If some sort of super Cooper evidence should arise. it will be given to the right people. it's another avenue for researching things
about Cooper. now, if you were Gray, perhaps I would be in a bit of trouble, because his word gets out to the public, and the media uses him for information. so, again, you can have your viewers Robert.

I'll be on the edge of my seat waiting for another deceptive Christiansen power witness that nobody will have access to in your CENSORED investigation. you learned a lot from Bob Knoss.

ADDED: Now, since you are a numbers kinda guy. I just went to my site. a record has been broken, oh no! the most online at one time was 17 back in March. 38 are currently online viewing the forum. "Most Online Today: 38. Most Online Ever: 38 (Today at 07:12:55 AM) you better get a crack'n Bobby!

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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RobertMBlevins

Well, I got up this morning and saw your post. This part was interesting:

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'That's funny, I don't recall seeing your articles anywhere with the known Cooper sites? keep your audience. I don't want them Robert.

Show the power Robert. I would like to see people in the Cooper community speak of you, and I'm not talking about here. Is this more of your "I'm not trying to discredit the site"...'

Well, no. I've said many times I hope you guys figure out something good on the case. I don't write for the 'Cooper community' or work for them either. That's a reletively small group, and the members range from nice (377, Amazon) to downright vindictive (Georger, who has been doing that to everyone for YEARS). I write for the general public. The reason you don't see any Cooper-related articles on other Cooper sites is because I seldom, if ever, post to those sites. Just Dropzone, mostly.

Can you really 'own' an investigation? Sure you can, especially when it concerns a single individual such as Kenny Christiansen. Others can investigate him as well, of course. I just decided a while ago that due to the backbiting and hatred that exists in Cooperland, that it might be better to keep some things confidential until if and when you can verify certain items in that investigation.

I consider some of the folks who investigate Cooper to be rabid dogs who occasionally eat their young, or who will go to any lengths to discredit anyone else investigating the case. Oh...we learned this lesson you can bet on that.

I've had to take a lot of flak from those folks you call the 'Cooper community' who are a mixed bunch indeed. Dealing with them you almost have to throw out the baby with the bath water because some can't be trusted. And I don't think any of them REALLY want to know the identity of the hijacker because then their agenda...their work...their suspect, would be all for nothing. And this is their greatest fear. It's a convention where competition exceeds the search for truth, where the discussion is more important than actually identifying Cooper.

I am REALLY looking forward to the interview this Sunday between AB staff and the witness. We've known this person for about a year and a half. Thank God we never revealed their identity publicly because the Cooper Sharks would be calling them now and scaring the shit out of them, or telling them in emails how crazy we are. If your little community is buzzing about this, I wouldn't be surprised although you should be worrying about other points in the case and less about Christiansen.

Leave him to us. We're figuring him out quicker than you think. I really have to get going now, but I'll leave you with that. You may believe we 'hate' you or something but nothing could be further from the truth.

We just don't trust some of you...big difference.
To Everyone Else: Have a great Fourth of July everyone. I know I will.

While reading your lengthy reply, I read the three paragraphs above(I added the bold).

Then I read them again.

This comes to mind.

1. The way you treated Marla. She also had a suspect and you jumped all over her before the day was done. Instead of working and verifying your own evidence to make your case against Kenny stronger, you ripped Marla apart and not just her story. L.D. Cooper did get the attention of the FBI, so obviously she had something in her memories about her uncle that peaked the attention from the FBI.

2. Within days of me posting the story on DZ about my father, Melvin Luther Wilson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs&list=UUIqXiJ2EOfl_ZaV8DN3V1oQ, YOU posted that he was just a missing person and there were thousands of missing people from that era. In addition, because we did not know his location on Thanksgiving (he was a fugitive of justice since September 15, 1971), a landlord or friend did not report him gone after the hi-jacking, Melvin possible could not be involved. However, Melvin's physical description and criminal history fit the description of Dan Cooper.

3. If anyone discredits the KC story or your evidence.....you become the rabid dog who discredits others. In your owns words "their agenda...their work...their suspect, would be all for nothing". This was very telling. You say "Leave him to us", well history shows that you have had a few revisions on your book and you were corrected by others on this thread. Now that posters here want to verify information that is in your book you call them Cooper nuts. Maybe they are trying to tame a "Cooper nut" and show him loopholes in his investigation.

You refer to people here as being in "Cooperland" and yet your description of these traits are how you are perceived on the thread. Unfortunately, you do not see these traits in yourself, but we do. I believe this is why you attract the venom that you do.

Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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RobertMBlevins

Kenny C was never investigated by the Seattle FBI. Never. He was dismissed as having a level of expertise in skydiving too extensive to have been Cooper.

I don't know how you know this. When Carr arrived in Seattle, he took a great interest in the case. He reviewed many of the suspects. He had a lot of contact with Gray. It's difficult to imagine he would not have taken a good look at Kenny C.

You might not like how much time and effort the FBI put into Kenny, but I don't think they ignored him.

[MarkBennett 5]

RobertMBlevins

Leave him to us. We're figuring him out quicker than you think.

Ooops....I hope you didn't leak the gender of your latest witness.

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An ex lover....no doubt.

"They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider