FLYJACK 654 #45226 December 23, 2013 RobertMBlevins***ok, not sure if this works, a flying tour of the potential float path from the St Johns dump to TBAR in 2002 (image).. Download file open in GOOGLE EARTH.. It works. I got a pretty good idea on where you are going with this theory. I'm taking a neutral stand on this one. It's possible the money could have floated into Tina Bar as you say. The two main problems are these: You have Tom Kaye and his team saying they don't believe the found money was ever in the river, or exposed to open water for any real period of time, based on their tests. The second point is the amount of the money discovered, which adds up to more than one bundle of the ransom. In order for your theory to work, this assumes that approximately three bundles of the cash somehow stayed together for a river trip lasting a few miles. I don't have any real conclusion here. In the lack of good theories on the money, yours is as legitimate as any of the others presented. (Possible plant, Cooper crashed nearby, dredging, etc) Yes, the money would have floated in a "container" like a paper bag,, the bag would have deteriorated very quickly. but this theory is very early.. my reading of the dump characteristics in the 70's was that it was a mess with businesses and individuals illegal dumping all around there. If anyone can think of a reasonable theory for cash to end up in the dump in a state that can float intact to TBAR, post up,, (bonus, if it can lead to a suspect) St Johns landfill in 70's.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #45227 December 23, 2013 was there any issues of trash from the dump getting into the surrounding waters in this time period? the dump seems to be in the general area of the flight path. I'm going to take a look with my simulator......."It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #45228 December 23, 2013 sailshawFlyjack It would have been easy to launder the Norjak money by using it at Casino's and when exchanged for a couple hundred in twenties the chips could be later exchanged for larger bills. DB might have had a partner that was a gambler who could have laundered the loot very easily. Cossey was a gambler, could he have done the laundering? Did they know each other from Issaquah Sky Sports? Bob Sailshaw [email protected] I agree it would have been easy, but those casino bills would then get passed many times over in circulation, it just isn't the first pass, but the logic here is backasswards.. premise no money was found in circulation.. and it would have been relatively easy for the "hijacker:" to pass the bills after a period of time.. therefore, he spent the cash LOGIC.. premise no money was found in circulation therefore, we don't know if the money was spent So, it really comes down to subjective probability... OPINION If I had to make a call, I'd say the likelihood that money was passed undetected through to destruction is about the same as myself sinking a single basket from half court, however, the likelihood of finding the cash at TBAR would be like myself sinking 50 baskets in a row from half court. .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #45229 December 23, 2013 mrshutter45was there any issues of trash from the dump getting into the surrounding waters in this time period? the dump seems to be in the general area of the flight path. I'm going to take a look with my simulator....... There was a flood in dec 1978, the place was a HUGE mess with illegal dumping all around it, the dump was essentially in the Slough, there were also hundreds or maybe a thousand gulls routing through the trash that may have dislodged a brown paper bag.. there are many ways that the cash could have made it into the Slough from the dump, the harder explanation/speculation is the "container" float to TBAR, money intact.. it is extremely unlikely that the cash floated on its own. A paper bag fits... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVickiW 0 #45230 December 23, 2013 FLYJACK***was there any issues of trash from the dump getting into the surrounding waters in this time period? the dump seems to be in the general area of the flight path. I'm going to take a look with my simulator....... There was a flood in dec 1978, the place was a HUGE mess with illegal dumping all around it, the dump was essentially in the Slough, there were also hundreds or maybe a thousand gulls routing through the trash that may have dislodged a brown paper bag.. there are many ways that the cash could have made it into the Slough from the dump, the harder explanation/speculation is the "container" float to TBAR, money intact.. it is extremely unlikely that the cash floated on its own. A paper bag fits... There was a theory that someone had posited earlier in the forum regarding the arrival of the money on Tina/Tena Bar. The tied bank bag washed up on the banks of the river with the raging water of the Spring floods. The bag was partially deteriorating and the money fell out of the partially open bag. When the flood waters raised again the bag was pulled back into the river with the tide and a portion of the money was left on the shoreline. The receding water deposited sand over the money. I do not remember who brought this up, but I thought it sounded like a plausible theory.Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #45231 December 23, 2013 EVickiW******was there any issues of trash from the dump getting into the surrounding waters in this time period? the dump seems to be in the general area of the flight path. I'm going to take a look with my simulator....... There was a flood in dec 1978, the place was a HUGE mess with illegal dumping all around it, the dump was essentially in the Slough, there were also hundreds or maybe a thousand gulls routing through the trash that may have dislodged a brown paper bag.. there are many ways that the cash could have made it into the Slough from the dump, the harder explanation/speculation is the "container" float to TBAR, money intact.. it is extremely unlikely that the cash floated on its own. A paper bag fits... There was a theory that someone had posited earlier in the forum regarding the arrival of the money on Tina/Tena Bar. The tied bank bag washed up on the banks of the river with the raging water of the Spring floods. The bag was partially deteriorating and the money fell out of the partially open bag. When the flood waters raised again the bag was pulled back into the river with the tide and a portion of the money was left on the shoreline. The receding water deposited sand over the money. I do not remember who brought this up, but I thought it sounded like a plausible theory. definitely plausible, I'd love to go to the dump and toss a paper bag of cash and a canvas money bag of cash into the Slough and see what happens. EDIT,, not my cash of course.. someone else's .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #45232 December 23, 2013 RobertMBlevins ****** The point I'm making is that Larry Carr has no way of knowing what individual tellers were doing in the 1970s. Or if they took the extra time to go through their 20s at the end of the day in hopes of getting that reward. How would he know this? Perhaps Blevins can tell us if Larry Carr had even been born by 1971/1972? Answer: Yes. Not by much, though. But since he was a case agent for Cooper and had access to all the FBI files, he deserves a certain amount of respect. His main job was never Cooper, but busting bank robbers and bringing them to justice. Too bad some beanheads drove him away from DZ, isn't it? Meanwhile, you can argue about how easy it was to compare this twenty or that from a list of 10,000 numbers printed on a 34-page list... I'm not arguing with you, Robert - just trying to make you understand a simple concept - as you are so fond of saying. To sing out a bit about R-E-S-P-E-C-T. First - I have the utmost respect for Mr. Carr and think he is one of the best things to ever happen to this case. That does not mean that he is always right or accurate. He's developed a profile of the case and Cooper from all of his files, but some of that is speculation - as he will attest. The difference in his speculation and yours (or mine) is that his comes from a larger base knowledge of the case and crime/criminals in general, but that doesn't mean he always gets it right. Now find out what it means to me....engaging in debate about something does not have to lead to disrespect -- "ckret" was not afraid of a little debate and usually seemed willing to look at things from other angles AND admit when he was wrong. Point being, if my information is correct --disagreement and debate is not why Carr left the forum. Second - Do I really have to draw down the NUMEROUS posts where you accuse Larry Carr and the FBI of all sorts of tomfoollery in connection with the Amboy chute? I might add - in a somewhat disrespectful tone. Or how about the posts you made "dis-respecting" Earl Cossey before you became his best bud after he died? Pot meet frickin kettle. Not to mention the pages after pages of endless, back and forth, nonsense-laden, drivel-filled, I-can-piss-further-than-you-can drama that most of us just ignore because we have found it useless to complain. Answer me Santa - is it Blevins derangement syndrome or is there a common denominator to the madness? Just saying....I don't know you personally, but based on your participation in this forum, the last lecture that you are qualified to give is one on respect. Shame really for advancing the KC theory - Like Jo, you can be your own worst enemy. But....back to point at hand - As to your source - I'll listen again, because I might have missed it, but I did not hear Larry Carr say anything about 3 - 6 months in connection with checking the money. Once again....oh nevermind.. As I said - the logistics involved in spot-checking twenties say, and I agree, that the number checking probably did not last long. But my point that 3 - 6 months is just another guess remains. Now... would another 3 or 6 or 12 months have impacted the odds of discovery in a meaningful way? I'm not a statistician so I don't know - but anytime we allow speculation to be put out as fact - even on something seemingly inconsequential - seems like we lose validity on future calculations.but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #45233 December 23, 2013 FLYJACK definitely plausible, I'd love to go to the dump and toss a paper bag of cash and a canvas money bag of cash into the Slough and see what happens. EDIT,, not my cash of course.. someone else's .. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #45234 December 23, 2013 sadly, the whole money argument revolves around KC purchasing the house shortly after the crime. this is why he is pushing the stopping of the search for the cash. he needs to convince the dozens (*laughs*) of emails he gets monthly on Cooper & KC. whats even funnier is the lack of discussion on his form. even if a bill did surface, would this be a direct link to Cooper surviving, or possibly someone finding the loot? I think the dump theory is worth looking into, but are we trying to hard to match the how the bills were found?"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #45235 December 23, 2013 mrshutter45......... even if a bill did surface, would this be a direct link to Cooper surviving, or possibly someone finding the loot? I think the dump theory is worth looking into, but are we trying to hard to match the how the bills were found? I agree a bill showing up would not prove that Cooper survived, but the circumstances of the find might play a part in the probability of that. I think the dump theory is interesting - just not sure about the massive amount of follow-up that would be required to go anywhere with it. I'm just not seeing a paper trail here - especially if illegal dumping was going on. But kudos if flytrack or someone goes somewhere with it. If nothing else though, on first glance it seems that Flytrack has presented a viable alternative to how the money might have arrived to Tena Bar. And in a fast moving flood situation, the bag of money wouldn't have had to stay in the water long to get there either.but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 21 #45236 December 23, 2013 FLYJACKok, not sure if this works, a flying tour of the potential float path from the St Johns dump to TBAR in 2002 (image).. Download file open in GOOGLE EARTH.. Very cool FLYJACK! KML files are a great tool. I did a hop and pop jump from 18,000 ft with APRS ham radio telemetry gear that transmitted GPS and physio data. We were able to create a 3D KML file of the jump using the received data. You could see my position, heart rate and blood O2 level at various parts of the jump and also ground speed, altitude and CMG (course made good). Happy Holidays to everyone. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #45237 December 23, 2013 smokin99***......... even if a bill did surface, would this be a direct link to Cooper surviving, or possibly someone finding the loot? I think the dump theory is worth looking into, but are we trying to hard to match the how the bills were found? I agree a bill showing up would not prove that Cooper survived, but the circumstances of the find might play a part in the probability of that. I think the dump theory is interesting - just not sure about the massive amount of follow-up that would be required to go anywhere with it. I'm just not seeing a paper trail here - especially if illegal dumping was going on. But kudos if flytrack or someone goes somewhere with it. If nothing else though, on first glance it seems that Flytrack has presented a viable alternative to how the money might have arrived to Tena Bar. And in a fast moving flood situation, the bag of money wouldn't have had to stay in the water long to get there either. What is the normal (and flood) speed of the water between the dump and TBAR,,, it is about 6 miles,, estimation,, the Williamette at Portland speed in normal conditions travels at almost 1 ft/second 6 miles is 31860 feet or seconds, that is 528 minutes or 8.8 hours in the water,, check my math.. a flood condition may be quicker. A paper bag would begin to deteriorate after getting wet, but would hold the cash long enough to get it intact on TBAR.. SPECULATION,,, of course .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #45238 December 23, 2013 377***ok, not sure if this works, a flying tour of the potential float path from the St Johns dump to TBAR in 2002 (image).. Download file open in GOOGLE EARTH.. Very cool FLYJACK! KML files are a great tool. I did a hop and pop jump from 18,000 ft with APRS ham radio telemetry gear that transmitted GPS and physio data. We were able to create a 3D KML file of the jump using the received data. You could see my position, heart rate and blood O2 level at various parts of the jump and also ground speed, altitude and CMG (course made good). Happy Holidays to everyone. 377 Do you have a link for a file or video, can it be viewed,,,?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 197 #45239 December 23, 2013 smokin99 ***......... even if a bill did surface, would this be a direct link to Cooper surviving, or possibly someone finding the loot? I think the dump theory is worth looking into, but are we trying to hard to match the how the bills were found? I agree a bill showing up would not prove that Cooper survived, but the circumstances of the find might play a part in the probability of that. I think the dump theory is interesting - just not sure about the massive amount of follow-up that would be required to go anywhere with it. I'm just not seeing a paper trail here - especially if illegal dumping was going on. But kudos if flytrack or someone goes somewhere with it. If nothing else though, on first glance it seems that Flytrack has presented a viable alternative to how the money might have arrived to Tena Bar. And in a fast moving flood situation, the bag of money wouldn't have had to stay in the water long to get there either. Whole bag scenario requires a lot of sand to cover it up so it isn't seen afterwards. Whole lot of sand spread over N square feet. hmmm... an amount equivalent to: hmmm ... a dredging scenario? You have to account not only for money arriving at Tina Bar but also not being seen, and not being seen for t-amount of time, however much $$$ was deposited in one or more events. A bushel of sand? A pickup of sand )spread over...)? A dump truck of sand spread over ??? You get the point! Stop guessing! Ask Blevins - he has the FBI reports on the matter! Her Blevins IS your resident expert on all these matters. He has the FBI reports! Probably direct from Carr! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 197 #45240 December 23, 2013 FLYJACK ******......... even if a bill did surface, would this be a direct link to Cooper surviving, or possibly someone finding the loot? I think the dump theory is worth looking into, but are we trying to hard to match the how the bills were found? I agree a bill showing up would not prove that Cooper survived, but the circumstances of the find might play a part in the probability of that. I think the dump theory is interesting - just not sure about the massive amount of follow-up that would be required to go anywhere with it. I'm just not seeing a paper trail here - especially if illegal dumping was going on. But kudos if flytrack or someone goes somewhere with it. If nothing else though, on first glance it seems that Flytrack has presented a viable alternative to how the money might have arrived to Tena Bar. And in a fast moving flood situation, the bag of money wouldn't have had to stay in the water long to get there either. What is the normal (and flood) speed of the water between the dump and TBAR,,, it is about 6 miles,, estimation,, the Williamette at Portland speed in normal conditions travels at almost 1 ft/second 6 miles is 31860 feet or seconds, that is 528 minutes or 8.8 hours in the water,, check my math.. a flood condition may be quicker. A paper bag would begin to deteriorate after getting wet, but would hold the cash long enough to get it intact on TBAR.. SPECULATION,,, of course .. ASK BLEVINS! HE HAS THE FBI REPORTS! DIRECT FROM THE PALMER FAMILY! Hint: Bradley used 3 ft per second. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #45241 December 23, 2013 georger *********......... even if a bill did surface, would this be a direct link to Cooper surviving, or possibly someone finding the loot? I think the dump theory is worth looking into, but are we trying to hard to match the how the bills were found? I agree a bill showing up would not prove that Cooper survived, but the circumstances of the find might play a part in the probability of that. I think the dump theory is interesting - just not sure about the massive amount of follow-up that would be required to go anywhere with it. I'm just not seeing a paper trail here - especially if illegal dumping was going on. But kudos if flytrack or someone goes somewhere with it. If nothing else though, on first glance it seems that Flytrack has presented a viable alternative to how the money might have arrived to Tena Bar. And in a fast moving flood situation, the bag of money wouldn't have had to stay in the water long to get there either. What is the normal (and flood) speed of the water between the dump and TBAR,,, it is about 6 miles,, estimation,, the Williamette at Portland speed in normal conditions travels at almost 1 ft/second 6 miles is 31860 feet or seconds, that is 528 minutes or 8.8 hours in the water,, check my math.. a flood condition may be quicker. A paper bag would begin to deteriorate after getting wet, but would hold the cash long enough to get it intact on TBAR.. SPECULATION,,, of course .. ASK BLEVINS! HE HAS THE FBI REPORTS! DIRECT FROM THE PALMER FAMILY! Hint: Bradley used 3 ft per second. I assume that is the Columbia,, if accurate then at 2 seconds (average), the Slough may be slightly slower, the cash would be in the water at 2 sec/ft = 4.4 hours at 3 sec/ft = 2.9 hours,, either way it is not long in the water... 3 - 9 hours... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #45242 December 23, 2013 georger ******......... even if a bill did surface, would this be a direct link to Cooper surviving, or possibly someone finding the loot? I think the dump theory is worth looking into, but are we trying to hard to match the how the bills were found? I agree a bill showing up would not prove that Cooper survived, but the circumstances of the find might play a part in the probability of that. I think the dump theory is interesting - just not sure about the massive amount of follow-up that would be required to go anywhere with it. I'm just not seeing a paper trail here - especially if illegal dumping was going on. But kudos if flytrack or someone goes somewhere with it. If nothing else though, on first glance it seems that Flytrack has presented a viable alternative to how the money might have arrived to Tena Bar. And in a fast moving flood situation, the bag of money wouldn't have had to stay in the water long to get there either. Whole bag scenario requires a lot of sand to cover it up so it isn't seen afterwards. Whole lot of sand spread over N square feet. hmmm... an amount equivalent to: hmmm ... a dredging scenario? You have to account not only for money arriving at Tina Bar but also not being seen, and not being seen for t-amount of time, however much $$$ was deposited in one or more events. A bushel of sand? A pickup of sand )spread over...)? A dump truck of sand spread over ??? You get the point! I do get the point. That's why I said "on first glance". You're right - there are a lot of variables that would have to be covered for this idea to be fully vetted (such as it is). But it's a start. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 654 #45243 December 23, 2013 smokin99 *** definitely plausible, I'd love to go to the dump and toss a paper bag of cash and a canvas money bag of cash into the Slough and see what happens. EDIT,, not my cash of course.. someone else's .. Another flying tour from the dump to TBAR, this one is a little more accurate for the final destination,, I think,,, open file in Google Earth .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #45244 December 24, 2013 I am the one who got BLAMED, but my only complaint was his using the Cooper Comic in the FBI site AFTER this thread discussed it. Prior to that there WAS no mention of the Comic in the case other than casually. This is what set off another story - the one Marla told. He was putting things in the thread that was NOT part of the case in its origin. She took the Cooper Comic from the FBI site! What was done probagated a lot of problems for the FBI. I seriously doubt MY complaint caused them to dismiss him from the thread. I expect there are and where underlining conditions such as violations of protocol - but, that would only be a guess. REMEMBER Carr denied me the Jefferson file and so did other agents. ONLY after a recent poster did what Carr should have done. I printed and investigated. What was available when Carr was here - it was pathetic. I had to go to the state to get what little I did - there were NO details available when Carr was here and I could NOT obtain the actual file because he nor the FBI would provide me with the means to do so. I asked and asked. I had a man go to the prison with the appropriate papers after a worker there said we could have them. They turned him away and that was an expensive trip...all communications with this person at the prison was denied. Made me fight even harder! I had given up ever seeing the prison pics - like I had of the other encarcerations. There were NO pics with the McNeil - because the FBI denied Duane was in McNeil until I cornered the FBI agent in 2000 (plus the file was so old all of the back information had been destroyed). Deliberate concealment and misinformation was provide - why?Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45245 December 24, 2013 RobertMBlevins Here's the actual truth: You saw the Decoded show, or read Blast, or saw the Geoff Gray book, or my Newsvine articles on Christiansen, maybe the KC report at the AB website last Christmas, or saw Gray's 2007 New York Magazine article, or probably all of these things... You believed, based on what you saw, that Kenny was CERTAINLY the hijacker. No problem there. I get emails all the time saying the same thing. Or not. Depends on the sender. Then...you downloaded the letters sent to the media right after the hijacking and started trying to make connections between Kenny and the letters. I will give you a certain credit for that, although your results are still up-in-the-air. Am I getting warm yet? It's cold in Jan the 1 is real cold Sorry Sir but I told JT that the money was found in the Lewis river before you or G Grays wrote your books so good luck with that. And I spoke with B Ingram Before your books The ticket is from 1971 The letters are from 1971 1972 I put it on a MAP BEFORE you wrote your books ask JT I told G Grays I knew the person that put it there before he wrote his book I gave him my number on the beach that day Like I said suspect number 6 not 1 1 two 6 he was last on my list But I can't dispute the handwriting and DNA Or Curtis Eng telling me that you have solved it Paul in person at the FBI Office Or Larry Carr Telling me that you have solved it on the phone Paul Or Curtis Eng calling me and telling me Paul you did it it's Ok to go to the Media Had the FBI told Me not to I would not have I would have taken it to the grave. GC 148 Paul Geivett The Gray Cop The secrets are funner for me and sadly this one was the best I wished I had kept I to myself and sent it to the FBI Anonymous now you get the Gray cop thing. You really haven't read my book DB COOPER CASE SOLVED 6 13 13 HI 18c nice to ccccccccccccc you here DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uberalles 0 #45246 December 24, 2013 18C First post here. Hello to all. Currently reading Geoffrey Gray's book Skyjack and I'm sure he claims the serial numbers of the $20 ransom notes were NOT supplied in sequential order to banks etc. From memory he does say the $20 showed only 3 different year dates. He nominates the years, but I don't have the book with me. Go easy. Some of you have had 43 years and 1978 pages start on me. Hello poster 18C....... Welcome to the Forum :) uberalles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #45247 December 24, 2013 perhaps you could explain this post made several days ago? "On another note; "No Sir, the case is still open, it has not been solved. No, we are not close to making an announcement. Yes, leads are still being looked in to, but we do not have any current viable suspects, all past suspects are still that, suspect, but not viable for the highjacking. (And honestly, no new evidence to suggest any new suspects. Yeah, that site, interesting to say the least) You be safe out there Officer" Matt ""It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45248 December 24, 2013 mrshutter45perhaps you could explain this post made several days ago? "On another note; "No Sir, the case is still open, it has not been solved. No, we are not close to making an announcement. Yes, leads are still being looked in to, but we do not have any current viable suspects, all past suspects are still that, suspect, but not viable for the highjacking. (And honestly, no new evidence to suggest any new suspects. Yeah, that site, interesting to say the least) You be safe out there Officer" Matt " I would tell Him to call me but he won't 360 975 9601 ask him to show you the results form FBI lab Virgina ask him if your shoes are untied thats the only way you would know. Curtis Eng told me that some people don't want this case solved and I see that's you Its the FBI policy not to comment on a ongoing investigation but Curtis Eng made an exception. Good LUCK Sir find a new hobby try metal detecting sorry Sir but Paul Geivett of Vancouver WA state Solved the DB COOPER CASE ON 6 13 13 get over it no body is hiding the letter's from you or the ticket Go out side in the lite of day and ask someone you don't know if they think the handwriting matches. Don' tell them it has any thing to do with DB COOPER. THEY all will say yes. ASK 12 and your done The only people that say no are on this site only 7 or so You have $$$$$$$$$ motivation Sir that's all Greed$$$$$$$$$$ ask your doctor next time you see him if he thing the handwriting matches. Then ask him to explain DNA to you I spell Curtis Eng that way not Matt tell Matt to call the ST patrol if he want's me to show him who DB COOPER IS OR HE CAN WATCH MY VIDEOS FOR HIMSELF AND SAVE ME ANOTHER SPEEDING TICKET Sir you DENIAL is almost unbelievable it's shocking YOU WILL NEVER BE ABEL TO TALK TO CURTIS ENG EVER AGAIN. you will get the media department isn't that right Curtis. Controversy will sell more of my book than the case being solved conspiracy Ill sell even more that way so keep it up Sir Case solved every body can go home low book sales I like it your way. So keep up the good work SIR DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45249 December 24, 2013 GreyCopGC148 ***Here's the actual truth: You saw the Decoded show, or read Blast, or saw the Geoff Gray book, or my Newsvine articles on Christiansen, maybe the KC report at the AB website last Christmas, or saw Gray's 2007 New York Magazine article, or probably all of these things... You believed, based on what you saw, that Kenny was CERTAINLY the hijacker. No problem there. I get emails all the time saying the same thing. Or not. Depends on the sender. Then...you downloaded the letters sent to the media right after the hijacking and started trying to make connections between Kenny and the letters. I will give you a certain credit for that, although your results are still up-in-the-air. Am I getting warm yet? It's cold in Jan the 1 is real cold Sorry Sir but I told JT that the money was found in the Lewis river before you or G Grays wrote your books so good luck with that. And I spoke with B Ingram Before your books The ticket is from 1971 The letters are from 1971 1972 I put it on a MAP BEFORE you wrote your books ask JT I told G Grays I knew the person that put it there before he wrote his book I gave him my number on the beach that day Like I said suspect number 6 not 1 1 two 6 he was last on my list But I can't dispute the handwriting and DNA Or Curtis Eng telling me that you have solved it Paul in person at the FBI Office Or Larry Carr Telling me that you have solved it on the phone Paul Or Curtis Eng calling me and telling me Paul you did it it's Ok to go to the Media Had the FBI told Me not to I would not have I would have taken it to the grave. GC 148 Paul Geivett The Gray Cop The secrets are funner for me and sadly this one was the best I wished I had kept I to myself and sent it to the FBI Anonymous now you get the Gray cop thing. You really haven't read my book DB COOPER CASE SOLVED 6 13 13 HI 18c nice to ccccccccccccc you here Well sorry Sir but your book and Grays book do not talk about handwriting or DNA or the money binge planted But it looks like you copied me on were the money was found I showed this to JT before you wrote your book. SO SAD SIR BUT I GOT YOU NOW . SEE LARRY CARR I TOLD YOU HE KNEW. SIR YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF. forget Jan 1 your done........... DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45250 December 24, 2013 RobertMBlevinsQuote'Or Curtis Eng telling me that you have solved it Paul in person at the FBI Office Or Larry Carr Telling me that you have solved it on the phone Paul Or Curtis Eng calling me and telling me Paul you did it it's Ok to go to the Media...' You should go to the media then...and quote both those FBI agents as saying that you have indeed solved the case. The media will attempt to verify your claim that these agents actually told you this, of course... It's in the Columbian news paper 6 28 under special notice look it up Just like HAPPY BIRTHDAY CLAIR as seen in classified. Sir you are no longer welcome to take part in me solving the case you have burned your bridge with me forever. SO good luck in your future but I will not be part of it Sir you only want the case solved if you do it. Sorry but I did it BRAD M can call me Grays or Skip But not after Jan 1 14 GOOD BY AND GOOD LUCK DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
