MarkBennett 5 #29751 January 7, 2012 Quote I. for one am not capable of presenting my case - and just do NOT do well in public or even standing up before the class in school as a girl. I know my story but it encases so many yrs of my life that one could NOT do it in 30 minutes if I was even capable of telling it at all in front of people. Jo, you may think you are not capable of presenting your case. But, you single-handedly got the attention of the FBI, got them to compare at least DNA (maybe fingerprints, too) and even had the cell phone number of the FBI agent on the case. That is what I would call presenting your case. Now the case is 40 years old and that might be as far as you're able to get with it. But, you've really done quite well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #29752 January 7, 2012 Seem to have problems with my AOL - Farflung this is for real! This post is just a test to see if I can post and leave and then come back to the last post. Recently I have had to scan thru pages and pages to get to the last post. Farflung - yes I will blame AOL, but it is probably just due to Old Age and Dumb Me Syndrome. Can't seem to enable the last post read return had before.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruceSmith 3 #29753 January 7, 2012 On Marla: Post after post from many of you with major whining regarding this woman. Fine. If she wants to use the email link and apply for a speaking slot, make the trip up to Seattle this August, okay. Let her do so. It's coopersummereventATgmailDOTCOM But if there were one slot remaining and Tom Kaye applied for one, and the other applicant was Marla, you can figure out who would be selected. If she applies soon enough, so that I don't have to make that choice, I will give her one. Quote You may not want to be too hasty in filling up the dance card. I've recently received two outreaches from good-ole boys in Oregon who are responding to the uptick in Cooper interest. One says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more. He has an attorney, and says the FBI is in frequent contact with him, demandng the exact coordinates and threatening him with criminal activity if he doesn't give them all the loot he finds. Sounds like the Bureau's open-but-not active case is a tad busy these days...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff. Just saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mrshutter45 21 #29754 January 7, 2012 anything on a possible location of where this is taking place? other than just Oregon?"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BruceSmith 3 #29755 January 7, 2012 Quoteanything on a possible location of where this is taking place? other than just Oregon? Quote yup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 197 #29756 January 7, 2012 QuoteOn Marla: Post after post from many of you with major whining regarding this woman. Fine. If she wants to use the email link and apply for a speaking slot, make the trip up to Seattle this August, okay. Let her do so. It's coopersummereventATgmailDOTCOM But if there were one slot remaining and Tom Kaye applied for one, and the other applicant was Marla, you can figure out who would be selected. If she applies soon enough, so that I don't have to make that choice, I will give her one. Quote You may not want to be too hasty in filling up the dance card. I've recently received two outreaches from good-ole boys in Oregon who are responding to the uptick in Cooper interest. One says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more. He has an attorney, and says the FBI is in frequent contact with him, demandng the exact coordinates and threatening him with criminal activity if he doesn't give them all the loot he finds. Sounds like the Bureau's open-but-not active case is a tad busy these days...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff. Just saying. An amazing article, just amazing. Yes it is a busy night! Breaktime. Coffee on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 197 #29757 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuote McCoy is a great Cooper too. If he screwed up and lost the money in the first jump I can see him doing it again. The FBI bought his alibi though. I am not sure I do. 377 well Im not totaly sure they did buy his alibi. It might have been a legal-tactical decision to persue the one for prosecution without opening the other - They had him dead-to-rights on the one count which was enough to clsoe the door on him forever - Later. Is there any place to go with McCoy? He was only 29, didn't match the description and they must have checked his fingerprints against the ones they had. Is there any place to go with McCoy? I dont think so. I am not expert on McCoy - several here know more than I do about McCoy. McCoy was ruled out, so far as I know, on physical description, prints, & alibi supposedly. Ive always wondered if Cooper knew McCoy and just acted first after hearing McCoy shoot his mouth off about 'this could be done, that could be done'. Because it was McCoy telling an aquaintance that he could have (pulled off) the Cooper hijacking, that got McCoy apprehended. He made his remarks over coffee to a highway patrolman! McCoy is a case study in his own right, for those interested in that kind of thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #29758 January 7, 2012 Bruce - That was a great story about your trip to see Sheridan Peterson, You do have a way of making readers feel they are along for the ride. And kudos to the dropzoner who sent the basket of cheer - I suspect it was 377 - he's always had an affinity for Sheridan - but I really have no idea. Whoever - was a nice thing to do. Thank you. At the risk of repeating myself - Peterson's own life story and his family history in America would be a fascinating legacy if someone could get it down on paper. Even without the Cooper angle. I'm glad you reached out to him again, Bruce.but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Farflung 0 #29759 January 7, 2012 Bruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” Really? Within an hour? That’s 59 minutes and 59 seconds or less from the deepest and darkest of Portland to wherever Miller lives. It takes me 15 minutes to get to the nearest McDonalds, but I’m one of those unlucky souls that uses Earth to travel on with a standard day being one revolution of the same planet. Time and space are the most abused and misused of concubines in the DBC stable. There are vastly different types of time measurements like New York Minutes and the famous ‘20 minute’ time frame which exists exclusively in Los Angeles and is the amount of time required to get from any point in that city to another. Quite remarkable in that 9 million people can collectively agree to engage the same lie for decades and reserve the temerity to say “Gee, I’ve never heard that before”. I had such high hopes for 2012 which included the reduction of this insane, secrecy associated with a 40 year old, cold crime and the associated bombast that must be some sort of Viagra for Walter Mittys. I think Bernie Madoff had a secret system also that thousands of self proclaimed intelligentsia bought into, figuratively and literally. The reason this sorry ass approach is still used today is simple…… it works. Why the need for this information enhancement? Do the Men in Black arriving within an hour convey some extra boner inducing, urgency that would be missing otherwise? Like a 5 hour lie detector test being more intense than a 5 minute examination? Kinda silly to read, pathetic to add and astonishing to believe. I guess a version where a couple bored agents are called to make an extra stop returning from a different crime on another whack job report isn’t what most people talk about anyway. I will now go into a trance and make some amazingly accurate predictions…….. The Amazing Farflungini sees a lack of photographic evidence supporting the found ‘70’s vintage’ twenty dollar bill associated with Cooper. This conclusion was reached since the Cooper money was 60’s vintage. Silence!....... Silence! The Amazing Farflungini is sensing another ‘First Attempt to Taste Like Vanilla Ice Cream’. Silence! The spotted parachute has no photographs either. I’m growing weak and must feed soon…. (cough)…. (cough) …. but I’ll try since I’m all about…. (gasp)…. the….. (arghhh)….truth. These artifacts are secret and must remain this way until legal council can be….. strength fading fast…. must keep channeling…. (sniff)… obtained in order to protect their rights…. The Amazing Farflungini is spent and his life shortened by this brave and hunky act. But since it was for the Cooper cause, he selfless sacrifices go without credit or seeking the same….. no matter how much he may deserve it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #29760 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote McCoy is a great Cooper too. If he screwed up and lost the money in the first jump I can see him doing it again. The FBI bought his alibi though. I am not sure I do. 377 well Im not totaly sure they did buy his alibi. It might have been a legal-tactical decision to persue the one for prosecution without opening the other - They had him dead-to-rights on the one count which was enough to clsoe the door on him forever - Later. Is there any place to go with McCoy? He was only 29, didn't match the description and they must have checked his fingerprints against the ones they had. QuoteIs there any place to go with McCoy? I dont think so. I am not expert on McCoy - several here know more than I do about McCoy. McCoy was ruled out, so far as I know, on physical description, prints, & alibi supposedly. Ive always wondered if Cooper knew McCoy and just acted first after hearing McCoy shoot his mouth off about 'this could be done, that could be done'. Because it was McCoy telling an aquaintance that he could have (pulled off) the Cooper hijacking, that got McCoy apprehended. He made his remarks over coffee to a highway patrolman! McCoy is a case study in his own right, for those interested in that kind of thing. While I have many doubts about McCoy being DB -- I have wondered at times about his physical characteristics... to me he has always looked much older than his stated age --but regardless of that I agree that he would be a case study in his own right. His background -- from religion to family to military honors to seeming like a regular, even shy ol joe -- just seems an ill fit to the man who would hijack a plane, escape prison and die in a shootout. From everything I've read no one who knew him thought from the start that he would have done what he did. Wonder how much his military experience changed him?but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BobKnoss 0 #29761 January 7, 2012 Quote While I have many doubts about McCoy being DB -- I have wondered at times about his physical characteristics... to me he has always looked much older than his stated age --but regardless of that I agree that he would be a case study in his own right. His background -- from religion to family to military honors to seeming like a regular, even shy ol joe -- just seems an ill fit to the man who would hijack a plane, escape prison and die in a shootout. From everything I've read no one who knew him thought from the start that he would have done what he did. Wonder how much his military experience changed him? You are referencing pictures of Henry Selick who was a stand-in for McCoy, approved by Judge Ritter. I have detailed close-up photos available that show Henry before and after his free plastic surgery. I posted real pics of McCoy a couple days ago. You can also view the blow-up on DB Cooper Site, Facebook. Mac looked his real age, four months older than me, without his typical beard. Cooper was 20 years older! Mac had a full head of black hair, hazel eyes that he claimed were blue, they were not. And a Z shaped scar by his right eye. Contrary to official reports, he was never in VietNam and was given medals as a cover. He was actually training Weber during part of that time. He was an extremely experienced jumper at the time Weber jumped, not a beginner. The rest is classified. No comment. Ask Mac. McCoy was not Cooper. He was Mormon. He believed in the "better good" philosophy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Robert99 37 #29762 January 7, 2012 QuoteBruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” Really? Within an hour? That’s 59 minutes and 59 seconds or less from the deepest and darkest of Portland to wherever Miller lives. It takes me 15 minutes to get to the nearest McDonalds, but I’m one of those unlucky souls that uses Earth to travel on with a standard day being one revolution of the same planet. Time and space are the most abused and misused of concubines in the DBC stable. There are vastly different types of time measurements like New York Minutes and the famous ‘20 minute’ time frame which exists exclusively in Los Angeles and is the amount of time required to get from any point in that city to another. Quite remarkable in that 9 million people can collectively agree to engage the same lie for decades and reserve the temerity to say “Gee, I’ve never heard that before”. I had such high hopes for 2012 which included the reduction of this insane, secrecy associated with a 40 year old, cold crime and the associated bombast that must be some sort of Viagra for Walter Mittys. I think Bernie Madoff had a secret system also that thousands of self proclaimed intelligentsia bought into, figuratively and literally. The reason this sorry ass approach is still used today is simple…… it works. Why the need for this information enhancement? Do the Men in Black arriving within an hour convey some extra boner inducing, urgency that would be missing otherwise? Like a 5 hour lie detector test being more intense than a 5 minute examination? Kinda silly to read, pathetic to add and astonishing to believe. I guess a version where a couple bored agents are called to make an extra stop returning from a different crime on another whack job report isn’t what most people talk about anyway. I will now go into a trance and make some amazingly accurate predictions…….. The Amazing Farflungini sees a lack of photographic evidence supporting the found ‘70’s vintage’ twenty dollar bill associated with Cooper. This conclusion was reached since the Cooper money was 60’s vintage. Silence!....... Silence! The Amazing Farflungini is sensing another ‘First Attempt to Taste Like Vanilla Ice Cream’. Silence! The spotted parachute has no photographs either. I’m growing weak and must feed soon…. (cough)…. (cough) …. but I’ll try since I’m all about…. (gasp)…. the….. (arghhh)….truth. These artifacts are secret and must remain this way until legal council can be….. strength fading fast…. must keep channeling…. (sniff)… obtained in order to protect their rights…. The Amazing Farflungini is spent and his life shortened by this brave and hunky act. But since it was for the Cooper cause, he selfless sacrifices go without credit or seeking the same….. no matter how much he may deserve it. Farflung is correct. If Mickey Mouse turned up on this thread and claimed to be Cooper, some posters here would immediately buy into that story. After all, Mickey has big ears just like those in the Cooper sketches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BobKnoss 0 #29763 January 7, 2012 Quote Yeah, I know. But with over 20,000 posts since this thread began in some form or another since 2001, what HASN"T been talked about already? Wink How about this: Duane Weber was a Peeping Tom. I had several complaints about a window peeper and caught Duane red handed on his hands and knees peeping into basement apartment bedroom windows early in the mornings. Picture attached of the location. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Robert99 37 #29764 January 7, 2012 QuoteBruce Smith says in part: Quote'You may not want to be too hasty in filling up the dance card. I've recently received two outreaches from good-ole boys in Oregon who are responding to the uptick in Cooper interest. One says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more. He has an attorney, and says the FBI is in frequent contact with him, demandng the exact coordinates and threatening him with criminal activity if he doesn't give them all the loot he finds. Sounds like the Bureau's open-but-not active case is a tad busy these days...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff. Just saying.' I will wait for the official annoucement. How convenient to find a twenty-dollar bill and a parachute just about now - in Oregon. (*smiles*) Especially after Marla changed her story. (She previously explained in interviews that the money arrived at Tena Bar because LD lost the money on the way down) But in her Dec 6th telephone interview she said: 'the hijacker gave the pilot coordinates that would ensure LD landed within seven miles of the house in Sisters.' Or words to that effect. In other words, she moved LD to another DZ on her own, after she realized her original story didn't make sense. If she explained the Tena Bar money in that fashion before in previous interviews...how does she know for certain now what LD told the Flight 305 crew? She's grasping at straws because the media is losing interest, and making it up as she goes along, or recruiting sockpuppets. And I don't believe a single word of it without proof. Not a word. Marla is online here right now. Maybe she will see this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hangdiver 1 #29765 January 7, 2012 Hey Bruce...very nice writeup on Petey...I haven't had much time lately for Cooper...well...for many reasons...one...it's summer in Nor Cal in January!!! Nothing like a January tan!!! Check back later... hangdiver "Mans got to know his limitations" Harry Callahan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hangdiver 1 #29766 January 7, 2012 QuotePost: Bruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” As always...Farflung...keeping the train on the tracks... hangdiver "Mans got to know his limitations" Harry Callahan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BobKnoss 0 #29767 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuoteBruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” Really? Within an hour? That’s 59 minutes and 59 seconds or less from the deepest and darkest of Portland to wherever Miller lives. It takes me 15 minutes to get to the nearest McDonalds, but I’m one of those unlucky souls that uses Earth to travel on with a standard day being one revolution of the same planet. Time and space are the most abused and misused of concubines in the DBC stable. There are vastly different types of time measurements like New York Minutes and the famous ‘20 minute’ time frame which exists exclusively in Los Angeles and is the amount of time required to get from any point in that city to another. Quite remarkable in that 9 million people can collectively agree to engage the same lie for decades and reserve the temerity to say “Gee, I’ve never heard that before”......... .........Farflung is correct. If Mickey Mouse turned up on this thread and claimed to be Cooper, some posters here would immediately buy into that story. After all, Mickey has big ears just like those in the Cooper sketches. The FBI can't do anything in an hour. Mickey Mouse is copyrighted. That automatically blows him out of the water here. Impossible. Blevins would go nuts. He's too tall, although his driver's license says he is shorter. He also has a friend, Donald Duck, who actually was related to the AFLAC duck who was a Northwest Airlines employee with a grudge. Very suspicious. Huey, Dewey, Louie and Goofy were probably conspirators for sure, but the hijacker was NOT copyrighted! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #29768 January 7, 2012 Quote You are referencing pictures of Henry Selick who was a stand-in for McCoy, approved by Judge Ritter. I have detailed close-up photos available that show Henry before and after his free plastic surgery. I posted real pics of McCoy a couple days ago. You can also view the blow-up on DB Cooper Site, Facebook. Mac looked his real age, four months older than me, without his typical beard. Cooper was 20 years older! Mac had a full head of black hair, hazel eyes that he claimed were blue, they were not. And a Z shaped scar by his right eye. Contrary to official reports, he was never in VietNam and was given medals as a cover. He was actually training Weber during part of that time. He was an extremely experienced jumper at the time Weber jumped, not a beginner. The rest is classified. No comment. Ask Mac. McCoy was not Cooper. He was Mormon. He believed in the "better good" philosophy. Well I sure am glad you cleared all that up. I'll take a look at that Facebook site directly.... (that's a southern time measurement..... along with after while, in a little while, bout sundown, at the crack of dawn, in two shake's of a sheep's tail, aimin to, fixin to, and my all time favorite....tomorrow. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #29769 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuotehttp://www.columbian.com/news/2011/nov/26/captivated-by-cooper/?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150430042237372_20074447_10150439476512372#f3b8b00be94744e This has a family "relative" of mine quoted. I almost spit my Jack Daniels and Coke (light on the coke) out! He is a SF Vet, 5th GRP, Viet Nam, A Team Leader. He, like I, believe that "Cooper" jumped and survived the jump, then we disagree on the survival post landing. Matt Quote Who's the "family" member, Matt? What does he think about Ted Braden, and would he care to chat about MAC V SOG? I'd love to talk with him. [email protected]; (360) 832-6248 Thanks. Bruce I dunno any of the answers, but I will ask. Of course reading the article will put you in touch with him faster. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29770 January 7, 2012 QuoteOne says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more... Can you ask them to look for the Lost Dutchman Mine during their wilderness lunch break? A Bigfoot pyramid is out there too, I just know it. Forget Carr and Ng. We need Scully and Mulder. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EVickiW 0 #29771 January 7, 2012 Quote I'll take a look at that Facebook site directly.... Don't bother...the FaceBook DB Cooper page started by Larry Carr was closed the end of July. Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29772 January 7, 2012 Robert, I sincerely respect your turnaround on the Marla ban. You listened to reason and criticism and changed your position. That process is exceedingly rare in this neighborhood. Dare we hope for Quade to relent on the Snomman ban? Certainly the sentence already served is long enough for the crime committed. How about a conditional parole? I can't call any favors from Quade cause he doesn't owe me any. I can only appeal based on hope. It's a new year Quade. How about some clemency? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29773 January 7, 2012 Bruce, It was heartwarming to think of Sheridan Petersons surprise and pleasure in receiving some holiday cheer from his dropzone colleagues. Thanks for tracking him down and reestablishing a broken connection. Eagle Eye Pete is a fascinating guy aside and apart from any connection to Cooper. I hope we will hear more from him. Let's assume for the purpose of argument that he isn't Cooper, after all the FBI cleared him after he provided a DNA sample. Every quality and skill that makes him a viable suspect also makes him a valuable sleuth. We guess about wilderness jumps. He's made many as a veteran USFS smoke jumper. We wonder if jumpers in Viet Nam heard rumors about the Air America 727 jumps in Thailand. He was there and could tell us. He's made night jumps with round canopies. He can tell us what he thinks about Cooper's jump. He knows a LOT about freefall instability issues when you start attaching things. Pete was a wing suit pioneer and got kicked out of USPA for his home made bat wing experiments. He worked at Boeing during the 727 years. He also started a Boeing Skydive Club. Who at Boeing knew that a 727 could be jumped? He is an ex Marine and can bring that experience to the case. Pete was grilled twice by the FBI. Why did they initially suspect him? What was the nature of the interviews? Why did Pete, a staunch defender of the Constitution, voluntarily provide a DNA sample? Anyway, thanks Bruce. You are a determined and diligent journalist who digs deep. I really appreciate your numerous contributions. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MarkBennett 5 #29774 January 7, 2012 Good summary, Robert. One thing that stands out about the Christianson theory, as opposed to all the others, is that it assumes hijacker did get away with the money. If so, there might still be some bills in circulation somewhere. It's too bad nobody stamped wheresgeorge.com (or wheresandrew.com) on bills in 1971. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 197 #29775 January 7, 2012 I am disappointed that some other folks on this thread have not researched her claims, instead of accepting them on their face. . ONLY Blevins can gnarfle the garfunk! WE DONT NEEED SNOW! 377 stop asking - you have blevins! Blevins knows it when he "seize" it. Gag me with a silver Blevins! Or a silver Snow. Or a silver Blevins. Or a silver Snow. Or a silver 377 ........... whatever. Stop beating us with your tail! and the other thing in the corner of the room, too. 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mrshutter45 21 #29754 January 7, 2012 anything on a possible location of where this is taking place? other than just Oregon?"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruceSmith 3 #29755 January 7, 2012 Quoteanything on a possible location of where this is taking place? other than just Oregon? Quote yup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 197 #29756 January 7, 2012 QuoteOn Marla: Post after post from many of you with major whining regarding this woman. Fine. If she wants to use the email link and apply for a speaking slot, make the trip up to Seattle this August, okay. Let her do so. It's coopersummereventATgmailDOTCOM But if there were one slot remaining and Tom Kaye applied for one, and the other applicant was Marla, you can figure out who would be selected. If she applies soon enough, so that I don't have to make that choice, I will give her one. Quote You may not want to be too hasty in filling up the dance card. I've recently received two outreaches from good-ole boys in Oregon who are responding to the uptick in Cooper interest. One says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more. He has an attorney, and says the FBI is in frequent contact with him, demandng the exact coordinates and threatening him with criminal activity if he doesn't give them all the loot he finds. Sounds like the Bureau's open-but-not active case is a tad busy these days...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff. Just saying. An amazing article, just amazing. Yes it is a busy night! Breaktime. Coffee on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 197 #29757 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuote McCoy is a great Cooper too. If he screwed up and lost the money in the first jump I can see him doing it again. The FBI bought his alibi though. I am not sure I do. 377 well Im not totaly sure they did buy his alibi. It might have been a legal-tactical decision to persue the one for prosecution without opening the other - They had him dead-to-rights on the one count which was enough to clsoe the door on him forever - Later. Is there any place to go with McCoy? He was only 29, didn't match the description and they must have checked his fingerprints against the ones they had. Is there any place to go with McCoy? I dont think so. I am not expert on McCoy - several here know more than I do about McCoy. McCoy was ruled out, so far as I know, on physical description, prints, & alibi supposedly. Ive always wondered if Cooper knew McCoy and just acted first after hearing McCoy shoot his mouth off about 'this could be done, that could be done'. Because it was McCoy telling an aquaintance that he could have (pulled off) the Cooper hijacking, that got McCoy apprehended. He made his remarks over coffee to a highway patrolman! McCoy is a case study in his own right, for those interested in that kind of thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #29758 January 7, 2012 Bruce - That was a great story about your trip to see Sheridan Peterson, You do have a way of making readers feel they are along for the ride. And kudos to the dropzoner who sent the basket of cheer - I suspect it was 377 - he's always had an affinity for Sheridan - but I really have no idea. Whoever - was a nice thing to do. Thank you. At the risk of repeating myself - Peterson's own life story and his family history in America would be a fascinating legacy if someone could get it down on paper. Even without the Cooper angle. I'm glad you reached out to him again, Bruce.but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Farflung 0 #29759 January 7, 2012 Bruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” Really? Within an hour? That’s 59 minutes and 59 seconds or less from the deepest and darkest of Portland to wherever Miller lives. It takes me 15 minutes to get to the nearest McDonalds, but I’m one of those unlucky souls that uses Earth to travel on with a standard day being one revolution of the same planet. Time and space are the most abused and misused of concubines in the DBC stable. There are vastly different types of time measurements like New York Minutes and the famous ‘20 minute’ time frame which exists exclusively in Los Angeles and is the amount of time required to get from any point in that city to another. Quite remarkable in that 9 million people can collectively agree to engage the same lie for decades and reserve the temerity to say “Gee, I’ve never heard that before”. I had such high hopes for 2012 which included the reduction of this insane, secrecy associated with a 40 year old, cold crime and the associated bombast that must be some sort of Viagra for Walter Mittys. I think Bernie Madoff had a secret system also that thousands of self proclaimed intelligentsia bought into, figuratively and literally. The reason this sorry ass approach is still used today is simple…… it works. Why the need for this information enhancement? Do the Men in Black arriving within an hour convey some extra boner inducing, urgency that would be missing otherwise? Like a 5 hour lie detector test being more intense than a 5 minute examination? Kinda silly to read, pathetic to add and astonishing to believe. I guess a version where a couple bored agents are called to make an extra stop returning from a different crime on another whack job report isn’t what most people talk about anyway. I will now go into a trance and make some amazingly accurate predictions…….. The Amazing Farflungini sees a lack of photographic evidence supporting the found ‘70’s vintage’ twenty dollar bill associated with Cooper. This conclusion was reached since the Cooper money was 60’s vintage. Silence!....... Silence! The Amazing Farflungini is sensing another ‘First Attempt to Taste Like Vanilla Ice Cream’. Silence! The spotted parachute has no photographs either. I’m growing weak and must feed soon…. (cough)…. (cough) …. but I’ll try since I’m all about…. (gasp)…. the….. (arghhh)….truth. These artifacts are secret and must remain this way until legal council can be….. strength fading fast…. must keep channeling…. (sniff)… obtained in order to protect their rights…. The Amazing Farflungini is spent and his life shortened by this brave and hunky act. But since it was for the Cooper cause, he selfless sacrifices go without credit or seeking the same….. no matter how much he may deserve it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #29760 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote McCoy is a great Cooper too. If he screwed up and lost the money in the first jump I can see him doing it again. The FBI bought his alibi though. I am not sure I do. 377 well Im not totaly sure they did buy his alibi. It might have been a legal-tactical decision to persue the one for prosecution without opening the other - They had him dead-to-rights on the one count which was enough to clsoe the door on him forever - Later. Is there any place to go with McCoy? He was only 29, didn't match the description and they must have checked his fingerprints against the ones they had. QuoteIs there any place to go with McCoy? I dont think so. I am not expert on McCoy - several here know more than I do about McCoy. McCoy was ruled out, so far as I know, on physical description, prints, & alibi supposedly. Ive always wondered if Cooper knew McCoy and just acted first after hearing McCoy shoot his mouth off about 'this could be done, that could be done'. Because it was McCoy telling an aquaintance that he could have (pulled off) the Cooper hijacking, that got McCoy apprehended. He made his remarks over coffee to a highway patrolman! McCoy is a case study in his own right, for those interested in that kind of thing. While I have many doubts about McCoy being DB -- I have wondered at times about his physical characteristics... to me he has always looked much older than his stated age --but regardless of that I agree that he would be a case study in his own right. His background -- from religion to family to military honors to seeming like a regular, even shy ol joe -- just seems an ill fit to the man who would hijack a plane, escape prison and die in a shootout. From everything I've read no one who knew him thought from the start that he would have done what he did. Wonder how much his military experience changed him?but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BobKnoss 0 #29761 January 7, 2012 Quote While I have many doubts about McCoy being DB -- I have wondered at times about his physical characteristics... to me he has always looked much older than his stated age --but regardless of that I agree that he would be a case study in his own right. His background -- from religion to family to military honors to seeming like a regular, even shy ol joe -- just seems an ill fit to the man who would hijack a plane, escape prison and die in a shootout. From everything I've read no one who knew him thought from the start that he would have done what he did. Wonder how much his military experience changed him? You are referencing pictures of Henry Selick who was a stand-in for McCoy, approved by Judge Ritter. I have detailed close-up photos available that show Henry before and after his free plastic surgery. I posted real pics of McCoy a couple days ago. You can also view the blow-up on DB Cooper Site, Facebook. Mac looked his real age, four months older than me, without his typical beard. Cooper was 20 years older! Mac had a full head of black hair, hazel eyes that he claimed were blue, they were not. And a Z shaped scar by his right eye. Contrary to official reports, he was never in VietNam and was given medals as a cover. He was actually training Weber during part of that time. He was an extremely experienced jumper at the time Weber jumped, not a beginner. The rest is classified. No comment. Ask Mac. McCoy was not Cooper. He was Mormon. He believed in the "better good" philosophy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Robert99 37 #29762 January 7, 2012 QuoteBruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” Really? Within an hour? That’s 59 minutes and 59 seconds or less from the deepest and darkest of Portland to wherever Miller lives. It takes me 15 minutes to get to the nearest McDonalds, but I’m one of those unlucky souls that uses Earth to travel on with a standard day being one revolution of the same planet. Time and space are the most abused and misused of concubines in the DBC stable. There are vastly different types of time measurements like New York Minutes and the famous ‘20 minute’ time frame which exists exclusively in Los Angeles and is the amount of time required to get from any point in that city to another. Quite remarkable in that 9 million people can collectively agree to engage the same lie for decades and reserve the temerity to say “Gee, I’ve never heard that before”. I had such high hopes for 2012 which included the reduction of this insane, secrecy associated with a 40 year old, cold crime and the associated bombast that must be some sort of Viagra for Walter Mittys. I think Bernie Madoff had a secret system also that thousands of self proclaimed intelligentsia bought into, figuratively and literally. The reason this sorry ass approach is still used today is simple…… it works. Why the need for this information enhancement? Do the Men in Black arriving within an hour convey some extra boner inducing, urgency that would be missing otherwise? Like a 5 hour lie detector test being more intense than a 5 minute examination? Kinda silly to read, pathetic to add and astonishing to believe. I guess a version where a couple bored agents are called to make an extra stop returning from a different crime on another whack job report isn’t what most people talk about anyway. I will now go into a trance and make some amazingly accurate predictions…….. The Amazing Farflungini sees a lack of photographic evidence supporting the found ‘70’s vintage’ twenty dollar bill associated with Cooper. This conclusion was reached since the Cooper money was 60’s vintage. Silence!....... Silence! The Amazing Farflungini is sensing another ‘First Attempt to Taste Like Vanilla Ice Cream’. Silence! The spotted parachute has no photographs either. I’m growing weak and must feed soon…. (cough)…. (cough) …. but I’ll try since I’m all about…. (gasp)…. the….. (arghhh)….truth. These artifacts are secret and must remain this way until legal council can be….. strength fading fast…. must keep channeling…. (sniff)… obtained in order to protect their rights…. The Amazing Farflungini is spent and his life shortened by this brave and hunky act. But since it was for the Cooper cause, he selfless sacrifices go without credit or seeking the same….. no matter how much he may deserve it. Farflung is correct. If Mickey Mouse turned up on this thread and claimed to be Cooper, some posters here would immediately buy into that story. After all, Mickey has big ears just like those in the Cooper sketches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BobKnoss 0 #29763 January 7, 2012 Quote Yeah, I know. But with over 20,000 posts since this thread began in some form or another since 2001, what HASN"T been talked about already? Wink How about this: Duane Weber was a Peeping Tom. I had several complaints about a window peeper and caught Duane red handed on his hands and knees peeping into basement apartment bedroom windows early in the mornings. Picture attached of the location. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Robert99 37 #29764 January 7, 2012 QuoteBruce Smith says in part: Quote'You may not want to be too hasty in filling up the dance card. I've recently received two outreaches from good-ole boys in Oregon who are responding to the uptick in Cooper interest. One says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more. He has an attorney, and says the FBI is in frequent contact with him, demandng the exact coordinates and threatening him with criminal activity if he doesn't give them all the loot he finds. Sounds like the Bureau's open-but-not active case is a tad busy these days...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff. Just saying.' I will wait for the official annoucement. How convenient to find a twenty-dollar bill and a parachute just about now - in Oregon. (*smiles*) Especially after Marla changed her story. (She previously explained in interviews that the money arrived at Tena Bar because LD lost the money on the way down) But in her Dec 6th telephone interview she said: 'the hijacker gave the pilot coordinates that would ensure LD landed within seven miles of the house in Sisters.' Or words to that effect. In other words, she moved LD to another DZ on her own, after she realized her original story didn't make sense. If she explained the Tena Bar money in that fashion before in previous interviews...how does she know for certain now what LD told the Flight 305 crew? She's grasping at straws because the media is losing interest, and making it up as she goes along, or recruiting sockpuppets. And I don't believe a single word of it without proof. Not a word. Marla is online here right now. Maybe she will see this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hangdiver 1 #29765 January 7, 2012 Hey Bruce...very nice writeup on Petey...I haven't had much time lately for Cooper...well...for many reasons...one...it's summer in Nor Cal in January!!! Nothing like a January tan!!! Check back later... hangdiver "Mans got to know his limitations" Harry Callahan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hangdiver 1 #29766 January 7, 2012 QuotePost: Bruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” As always...Farflung...keeping the train on the tracks... hangdiver "Mans got to know his limitations" Harry Callahan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BobKnoss 0 #29767 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuoteBruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” Really? Within an hour? That’s 59 minutes and 59 seconds or less from the deepest and darkest of Portland to wherever Miller lives. It takes me 15 minutes to get to the nearest McDonalds, but I’m one of those unlucky souls that uses Earth to travel on with a standard day being one revolution of the same planet. Time and space are the most abused and misused of concubines in the DBC stable. There are vastly different types of time measurements like New York Minutes and the famous ‘20 minute’ time frame which exists exclusively in Los Angeles and is the amount of time required to get from any point in that city to another. Quite remarkable in that 9 million people can collectively agree to engage the same lie for decades and reserve the temerity to say “Gee, I’ve never heard that before”......... .........Farflung is correct. If Mickey Mouse turned up on this thread and claimed to be Cooper, some posters here would immediately buy into that story. After all, Mickey has big ears just like those in the Cooper sketches. The FBI can't do anything in an hour. Mickey Mouse is copyrighted. That automatically blows him out of the water here. Impossible. Blevins would go nuts. He's too tall, although his driver's license says he is shorter. He also has a friend, Donald Duck, who actually was related to the AFLAC duck who was a Northwest Airlines employee with a grudge. Very suspicious. Huey, Dewey, Louie and Goofy were probably conspirators for sure, but the hijacker was NOT copyrighted! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #29768 January 7, 2012 Quote You are referencing pictures of Henry Selick who was a stand-in for McCoy, approved by Judge Ritter. I have detailed close-up photos available that show Henry before and after his free plastic surgery. I posted real pics of McCoy a couple days ago. You can also view the blow-up on DB Cooper Site, Facebook. Mac looked his real age, four months older than me, without his typical beard. Cooper was 20 years older! Mac had a full head of black hair, hazel eyes that he claimed were blue, they were not. And a Z shaped scar by his right eye. Contrary to official reports, he was never in VietNam and was given medals as a cover. He was actually training Weber during part of that time. He was an extremely experienced jumper at the time Weber jumped, not a beginner. The rest is classified. No comment. Ask Mac. McCoy was not Cooper. He was Mormon. He believed in the "better good" philosophy. Well I sure am glad you cleared all that up. I'll take a look at that Facebook site directly.... (that's a southern time measurement..... along with after while, in a little while, bout sundown, at the crack of dawn, in two shake's of a sheep's tail, aimin to, fixin to, and my all time favorite....tomorrow. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #29769 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuotehttp://www.columbian.com/news/2011/nov/26/captivated-by-cooper/?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150430042237372_20074447_10150439476512372#f3b8b00be94744e This has a family "relative" of mine quoted. I almost spit my Jack Daniels and Coke (light on the coke) out! He is a SF Vet, 5th GRP, Viet Nam, A Team Leader. He, like I, believe that "Cooper" jumped and survived the jump, then we disagree on the survival post landing. Matt Quote Who's the "family" member, Matt? What does he think about Ted Braden, and would he care to chat about MAC V SOG? I'd love to talk with him. [email protected]; (360) 832-6248 Thanks. Bruce I dunno any of the answers, but I will ask. Of course reading the article will put you in touch with him faster. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29770 January 7, 2012 QuoteOne says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more... Can you ask them to look for the Lost Dutchman Mine during their wilderness lunch break? A Bigfoot pyramid is out there too, I just know it. Forget Carr and Ng. We need Scully and Mulder. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EVickiW 0 #29771 January 7, 2012 Quote I'll take a look at that Facebook site directly.... Don't bother...the FaceBook DB Cooper page started by Larry Carr was closed the end of July. Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29772 January 7, 2012 Robert, I sincerely respect your turnaround on the Marla ban. You listened to reason and criticism and changed your position. That process is exceedingly rare in this neighborhood. Dare we hope for Quade to relent on the Snomman ban? Certainly the sentence already served is long enough for the crime committed. How about a conditional parole? I can't call any favors from Quade cause he doesn't owe me any. I can only appeal based on hope. It's a new year Quade. How about some clemency? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29773 January 7, 2012 Bruce, It was heartwarming to think of Sheridan Petersons surprise and pleasure in receiving some holiday cheer from his dropzone colleagues. Thanks for tracking him down and reestablishing a broken connection. Eagle Eye Pete is a fascinating guy aside and apart from any connection to Cooper. I hope we will hear more from him. Let's assume for the purpose of argument that he isn't Cooper, after all the FBI cleared him after he provided a DNA sample. Every quality and skill that makes him a viable suspect also makes him a valuable sleuth. We guess about wilderness jumps. He's made many as a veteran USFS smoke jumper. We wonder if jumpers in Viet Nam heard rumors about the Air America 727 jumps in Thailand. He was there and could tell us. He's made night jumps with round canopies. He can tell us what he thinks about Cooper's jump. He knows a LOT about freefall instability issues when you start attaching things. Pete was a wing suit pioneer and got kicked out of USPA for his home made bat wing experiments. He worked at Boeing during the 727 years. He also started a Boeing Skydive Club. Who at Boeing knew that a 727 could be jumped? He is an ex Marine and can bring that experience to the case. Pete was grilled twice by the FBI. Why did they initially suspect him? What was the nature of the interviews? Why did Pete, a staunch defender of the Constitution, voluntarily provide a DNA sample? Anyway, thanks Bruce. You are a determined and diligent journalist who digs deep. I really appreciate your numerous contributions. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MarkBennett 5 #29774 January 7, 2012 Good summary, Robert. One thing that stands out about the Christianson theory, as opposed to all the others, is that it assumes hijacker did get away with the money. If so, there might still be some bills in circulation somewhere. It's too bad nobody stamped wheresgeorge.com (or wheresandrew.com) on bills in 1971. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 197 #29775 January 7, 2012 I am disappointed that some other folks on this thread have not researched her claims, instead of accepting them on their face. . ONLY Blevins can gnarfle the garfunk! WE DONT NEEED SNOW! 377 stop asking - you have blevins! Blevins knows it when he "seize" it. Gag me with a silver Blevins! Or a silver Snow. Or a silver Blevins. Or a silver Snow. Or a silver 377 ........... whatever. Stop beating us with your tail! and the other thing in the corner of the room, too. 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georger 197 #29756 January 7, 2012 QuoteOn Marla: Post after post from many of you with major whining regarding this woman. Fine. If she wants to use the email link and apply for a speaking slot, make the trip up to Seattle this August, okay. Let her do so. It's coopersummereventATgmailDOTCOM But if there were one slot remaining and Tom Kaye applied for one, and the other applicant was Marla, you can figure out who would be selected. If she applies soon enough, so that I don't have to make that choice, I will give her one. Quote You may not want to be too hasty in filling up the dance card. I've recently received two outreaches from good-ole boys in Oregon who are responding to the uptick in Cooper interest. One says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more. He has an attorney, and says the FBI is in frequent contact with him, demandng the exact coordinates and threatening him with criminal activity if he doesn't give them all the loot he finds. Sounds like the Bureau's open-but-not active case is a tad busy these days...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff. Just saying. An amazing article, just amazing. Yes it is a busy night! Breaktime. Coffee on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 197 #29757 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuote McCoy is a great Cooper too. If he screwed up and lost the money in the first jump I can see him doing it again. The FBI bought his alibi though. I am not sure I do. 377 well Im not totaly sure they did buy his alibi. It might have been a legal-tactical decision to persue the one for prosecution without opening the other - They had him dead-to-rights on the one count which was enough to clsoe the door on him forever - Later. Is there any place to go with McCoy? He was only 29, didn't match the description and they must have checked his fingerprints against the ones they had. Is there any place to go with McCoy? I dont think so. I am not expert on McCoy - several here know more than I do about McCoy. McCoy was ruled out, so far as I know, on physical description, prints, & alibi supposedly. Ive always wondered if Cooper knew McCoy and just acted first after hearing McCoy shoot his mouth off about 'this could be done, that could be done'. Because it was McCoy telling an aquaintance that he could have (pulled off) the Cooper hijacking, that got McCoy apprehended. He made his remarks over coffee to a highway patrolman! McCoy is a case study in his own right, for those interested in that kind of thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 197 #29757 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuote McCoy is a great Cooper too. If he screwed up and lost the money in the first jump I can see him doing it again. The FBI bought his alibi though. I am not sure I do. 377 well Im not totaly sure they did buy his alibi. It might have been a legal-tactical decision to persue the one for prosecution without opening the other - They had him dead-to-rights on the one count which was enough to clsoe the door on him forever - Later. Is there any place to go with McCoy? He was only 29, didn't match the description and they must have checked his fingerprints against the ones they had. Is there any place to go with McCoy? I dont think so. I am not expert on McCoy - several here know more than I do about McCoy. McCoy was ruled out, so far as I know, on physical description, prints, & alibi supposedly. Ive always wondered if Cooper knew McCoy and just acted first after hearing McCoy shoot his mouth off about 'this could be done, that could be done'. Because it was McCoy telling an aquaintance that he could have (pulled off) the Cooper hijacking, that got McCoy apprehended. He made his remarks over coffee to a highway patrolman! McCoy is a case study in his own right, for those interested in that kind of thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #29758 January 7, 2012 Bruce - That was a great story about your trip to see Sheridan Peterson, You do have a way of making readers feel they are along for the ride. And kudos to the dropzoner who sent the basket of cheer - I suspect it was 377 - he's always had an affinity for Sheridan - but I really have no idea. Whoever - was a nice thing to do. Thank you. At the risk of repeating myself - Peterson's own life story and his family history in America would be a fascinating legacy if someone could get it down on paper. Even without the Cooper angle. I'm glad you reached out to him again, Bruce.but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farflung 0 #29759 January 7, 2012 Bruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” Really? Within an hour? That’s 59 minutes and 59 seconds or less from the deepest and darkest of Portland to wherever Miller lives. It takes me 15 minutes to get to the nearest McDonalds, but I’m one of those unlucky souls that uses Earth to travel on with a standard day being one revolution of the same planet. Time and space are the most abused and misused of concubines in the DBC stable. There are vastly different types of time measurements like New York Minutes and the famous ‘20 minute’ time frame which exists exclusively in Los Angeles and is the amount of time required to get from any point in that city to another. Quite remarkable in that 9 million people can collectively agree to engage the same lie for decades and reserve the temerity to say “Gee, I’ve never heard that before”. I had such high hopes for 2012 which included the reduction of this insane, secrecy associated with a 40 year old, cold crime and the associated bombast that must be some sort of Viagra for Walter Mittys. I think Bernie Madoff had a secret system also that thousands of self proclaimed intelligentsia bought into, figuratively and literally. The reason this sorry ass approach is still used today is simple…… it works. Why the need for this information enhancement? Do the Men in Black arriving within an hour convey some extra boner inducing, urgency that would be missing otherwise? Like a 5 hour lie detector test being more intense than a 5 minute examination? Kinda silly to read, pathetic to add and astonishing to believe. I guess a version where a couple bored agents are called to make an extra stop returning from a different crime on another whack job report isn’t what most people talk about anyway. I will now go into a trance and make some amazingly accurate predictions…….. The Amazing Farflungini sees a lack of photographic evidence supporting the found ‘70’s vintage’ twenty dollar bill associated with Cooper. This conclusion was reached since the Cooper money was 60’s vintage. Silence!....... Silence! The Amazing Farflungini is sensing another ‘First Attempt to Taste Like Vanilla Ice Cream’. Silence! The spotted parachute has no photographs either. I’m growing weak and must feed soon…. (cough)…. (cough) …. but I’ll try since I’m all about…. (gasp)…. the….. (arghhh)….truth. These artifacts are secret and must remain this way until legal council can be….. strength fading fast…. must keep channeling…. (sniff)… obtained in order to protect their rights…. The Amazing Farflungini is spent and his life shortened by this brave and hunky act. But since it was for the Cooper cause, he selfless sacrifices go without credit or seeking the same….. no matter how much he may deserve it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #29760 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote McCoy is a great Cooper too. If he screwed up and lost the money in the first jump I can see him doing it again. The FBI bought his alibi though. I am not sure I do. 377 well Im not totaly sure they did buy his alibi. It might have been a legal-tactical decision to persue the one for prosecution without opening the other - They had him dead-to-rights on the one count which was enough to clsoe the door on him forever - Later. Is there any place to go with McCoy? He was only 29, didn't match the description and they must have checked his fingerprints against the ones they had. QuoteIs there any place to go with McCoy? I dont think so. I am not expert on McCoy - several here know more than I do about McCoy. McCoy was ruled out, so far as I know, on physical description, prints, & alibi supposedly. Ive always wondered if Cooper knew McCoy and just acted first after hearing McCoy shoot his mouth off about 'this could be done, that could be done'. Because it was McCoy telling an aquaintance that he could have (pulled off) the Cooper hijacking, that got McCoy apprehended. He made his remarks over coffee to a highway patrolman! McCoy is a case study in his own right, for those interested in that kind of thing. While I have many doubts about McCoy being DB -- I have wondered at times about his physical characteristics... to me he has always looked much older than his stated age --but regardless of that I agree that he would be a case study in his own right. His background -- from religion to family to military honors to seeming like a regular, even shy ol joe -- just seems an ill fit to the man who would hijack a plane, escape prison and die in a shootout. From everything I've read no one who knew him thought from the start that he would have done what he did. Wonder how much his military experience changed him?but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #29761 January 7, 2012 Quote While I have many doubts about McCoy being DB -- I have wondered at times about his physical characteristics... to me he has always looked much older than his stated age --but regardless of that I agree that he would be a case study in his own right. His background -- from religion to family to military honors to seeming like a regular, even shy ol joe -- just seems an ill fit to the man who would hijack a plane, escape prison and die in a shootout. From everything I've read no one who knew him thought from the start that he would have done what he did. Wonder how much his military experience changed him? You are referencing pictures of Henry Selick who was a stand-in for McCoy, approved by Judge Ritter. I have detailed close-up photos available that show Henry before and after his free plastic surgery. I posted real pics of McCoy a couple days ago. You can also view the blow-up on DB Cooper Site, Facebook. Mac looked his real age, four months older than me, without his typical beard. Cooper was 20 years older! Mac had a full head of black hair, hazel eyes that he claimed were blue, they were not. And a Z shaped scar by his right eye. Contrary to official reports, he was never in VietNam and was given medals as a cover. He was actually training Weber during part of that time. He was an extremely experienced jumper at the time Weber jumped, not a beginner. The rest is classified. No comment. Ask Mac. McCoy was not Cooper. He was Mormon. He believed in the "better good" philosophy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert99 37 #29762 January 7, 2012 QuoteBruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” Really? Within an hour? That’s 59 minutes and 59 seconds or less from the deepest and darkest of Portland to wherever Miller lives. It takes me 15 minutes to get to the nearest McDonalds, but I’m one of those unlucky souls that uses Earth to travel on with a standard day being one revolution of the same planet. Time and space are the most abused and misused of concubines in the DBC stable. There are vastly different types of time measurements like New York Minutes and the famous ‘20 minute’ time frame which exists exclusively in Los Angeles and is the amount of time required to get from any point in that city to another. Quite remarkable in that 9 million people can collectively agree to engage the same lie for decades and reserve the temerity to say “Gee, I’ve never heard that before”. I had such high hopes for 2012 which included the reduction of this insane, secrecy associated with a 40 year old, cold crime and the associated bombast that must be some sort of Viagra for Walter Mittys. I think Bernie Madoff had a secret system also that thousands of self proclaimed intelligentsia bought into, figuratively and literally. The reason this sorry ass approach is still used today is simple…… it works. Why the need for this information enhancement? Do the Men in Black arriving within an hour convey some extra boner inducing, urgency that would be missing otherwise? Like a 5 hour lie detector test being more intense than a 5 minute examination? Kinda silly to read, pathetic to add and astonishing to believe. I guess a version where a couple bored agents are called to make an extra stop returning from a different crime on another whack job report isn’t what most people talk about anyway. I will now go into a trance and make some amazingly accurate predictions…….. The Amazing Farflungini sees a lack of photographic evidence supporting the found ‘70’s vintage’ twenty dollar bill associated with Cooper. This conclusion was reached since the Cooper money was 60’s vintage. Silence!....... Silence! The Amazing Farflungini is sensing another ‘First Attempt to Taste Like Vanilla Ice Cream’. Silence! The spotted parachute has no photographs either. I’m growing weak and must feed soon…. (cough)…. (cough) …. but I’ll try since I’m all about…. (gasp)…. the….. (arghhh)….truth. These artifacts are secret and must remain this way until legal council can be….. strength fading fast…. must keep channeling…. (sniff)… obtained in order to protect their rights…. The Amazing Farflungini is spent and his life shortened by this brave and hunky act. But since it was for the Cooper cause, he selfless sacrifices go without credit or seeking the same….. no matter how much he may deserve it. Farflung is correct. If Mickey Mouse turned up on this thread and claimed to be Cooper, some posters here would immediately buy into that story. After all, Mickey has big ears just like those in the Cooper sketches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #29763 January 7, 2012 Quote Yeah, I know. But with over 20,000 posts since this thread began in some form or another since 2001, what HASN"T been talked about already? Wink How about this: Duane Weber was a Peeping Tom. I had several complaints about a window peeper and caught Duane red handed on his hands and knees peeping into basement apartment bedroom windows early in the mornings. Picture attached of the location. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert99 37 #29764 January 7, 2012 QuoteBruce Smith says in part: Quote'You may not want to be too hasty in filling up the dance card. I've recently received two outreaches from good-ole boys in Oregon who are responding to the uptick in Cooper interest. One says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more. He has an attorney, and says the FBI is in frequent contact with him, demandng the exact coordinates and threatening him with criminal activity if he doesn't give them all the loot he finds. Sounds like the Bureau's open-but-not active case is a tad busy these days...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff. Just saying.' I will wait for the official annoucement. How convenient to find a twenty-dollar bill and a parachute just about now - in Oregon. (*smiles*) Especially after Marla changed her story. (She previously explained in interviews that the money arrived at Tena Bar because LD lost the money on the way down) But in her Dec 6th telephone interview she said: 'the hijacker gave the pilot coordinates that would ensure LD landed within seven miles of the house in Sisters.' Or words to that effect. In other words, she moved LD to another DZ on her own, after she realized her original story didn't make sense. If she explained the Tena Bar money in that fashion before in previous interviews...how does she know for certain now what LD told the Flight 305 crew? She's grasping at straws because the media is losing interest, and making it up as she goes along, or recruiting sockpuppets. And I don't believe a single word of it without proof. Not a word. Marla is online here right now. Maybe she will see this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hangdiver 1 #29765 January 7, 2012 Hey Bruce...very nice writeup on Petey...I haven't had much time lately for Cooper...well...for many reasons...one...it's summer in Nor Cal in January!!! Nothing like a January tan!!! Check back later... hangdiver "Mans got to know his limitations" Harry Callahan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hangdiver 1 #29766 January 7, 2012 QuotePost: Bruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” As always...Farflung...keeping the train on the tracks... hangdiver "Mans got to know his limitations" Harry Callahan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #29767 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuoteBruce Smith recalls: “...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff” Really? Within an hour? That’s 59 minutes and 59 seconds or less from the deepest and darkest of Portland to wherever Miller lives. It takes me 15 minutes to get to the nearest McDonalds, but I’m one of those unlucky souls that uses Earth to travel on with a standard day being one revolution of the same planet. Time and space are the most abused and misused of concubines in the DBC stable. There are vastly different types of time measurements like New York Minutes and the famous ‘20 minute’ time frame which exists exclusively in Los Angeles and is the amount of time required to get from any point in that city to another. Quite remarkable in that 9 million people can collectively agree to engage the same lie for decades and reserve the temerity to say “Gee, I’ve never heard that before”......... .........Farflung is correct. If Mickey Mouse turned up on this thread and claimed to be Cooper, some posters here would immediately buy into that story. After all, Mickey has big ears just like those in the Cooper sketches. The FBI can't do anything in an hour. Mickey Mouse is copyrighted. That automatically blows him out of the water here. Impossible. Blevins would go nuts. He's too tall, although his driver's license says he is shorter. He also has a friend, Donald Duck, who actually was related to the AFLAC duck who was a Northwest Airlines employee with a grudge. Very suspicious. Huey, Dewey, Louie and Goofy were probably conspirators for sure, but the hijacker was NOT copyrighted! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #29768 January 7, 2012 Quote You are referencing pictures of Henry Selick who was a stand-in for McCoy, approved by Judge Ritter. I have detailed close-up photos available that show Henry before and after his free plastic surgery. I posted real pics of McCoy a couple days ago. You can also view the blow-up on DB Cooper Site, Facebook. Mac looked his real age, four months older than me, without his typical beard. Cooper was 20 years older! Mac had a full head of black hair, hazel eyes that he claimed were blue, they were not. And a Z shaped scar by his right eye. Contrary to official reports, he was never in VietNam and was given medals as a cover. He was actually training Weber during part of that time. He was an extremely experienced jumper at the time Weber jumped, not a beginner. The rest is classified. No comment. Ask Mac. McCoy was not Cooper. He was Mormon. He believed in the "better good" philosophy. Well I sure am glad you cleared all that up. I'll take a look at that Facebook site directly.... (that's a southern time measurement..... along with after while, in a little while, bout sundown, at the crack of dawn, in two shake's of a sheep's tail, aimin to, fixin to, and my all time favorite....tomorrow. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #29769 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuotehttp://www.columbian.com/news/2011/nov/26/captivated-by-cooper/?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150430042237372_20074447_10150439476512372#f3b8b00be94744e This has a family "relative" of mine quoted. I almost spit my Jack Daniels and Coke (light on the coke) out! He is a SF Vet, 5th GRP, Viet Nam, A Team Leader. He, like I, believe that "Cooper" jumped and survived the jump, then we disagree on the survival post landing. Matt Quote Who's the "family" member, Matt? What does he think about Ted Braden, and would he care to chat about MAC V SOG? I'd love to talk with him. [email protected]; (360) 832-6248 Thanks. Bruce I dunno any of the answers, but I will ask. Of course reading the article will put you in touch with him faster. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29770 January 7, 2012 QuoteOne says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more... Can you ask them to look for the Lost Dutchman Mine during their wilderness lunch break? A Bigfoot pyramid is out there too, I just know it. Forget Carr and Ng. We need Scully and Mulder. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EVickiW 0 #29771 January 7, 2012 Quote I'll take a look at that Facebook site directly.... Don't bother...the FaceBook DB Cooper page started by Larry Carr was closed the end of July. Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29772 January 7, 2012 Robert, I sincerely respect your turnaround on the Marla ban. You listened to reason and criticism and changed your position. That process is exceedingly rare in this neighborhood. Dare we hope for Quade to relent on the Snomman ban? Certainly the sentence already served is long enough for the crime committed. How about a conditional parole? I can't call any favors from Quade cause he doesn't owe me any. I can only appeal based on hope. It's a new year Quade. How about some clemency? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29773 January 7, 2012 Bruce, It was heartwarming to think of Sheridan Petersons surprise and pleasure in receiving some holiday cheer from his dropzone colleagues. Thanks for tracking him down and reestablishing a broken connection. Eagle Eye Pete is a fascinating guy aside and apart from any connection to Cooper. I hope we will hear more from him. Let's assume for the purpose of argument that he isn't Cooper, after all the FBI cleared him after he provided a DNA sample. Every quality and skill that makes him a viable suspect also makes him a valuable sleuth. We guess about wilderness jumps. He's made many as a veteran USFS smoke jumper. We wonder if jumpers in Viet Nam heard rumors about the Air America 727 jumps in Thailand. He was there and could tell us. He's made night jumps with round canopies. He can tell us what he thinks about Cooper's jump. He knows a LOT about freefall instability issues when you start attaching things. Pete was a wing suit pioneer and got kicked out of USPA for his home made bat wing experiments. He worked at Boeing during the 727 years. He also started a Boeing Skydive Club. Who at Boeing knew that a 727 could be jumped? He is an ex Marine and can bring that experience to the case. Pete was grilled twice by the FBI. Why did they initially suspect him? What was the nature of the interviews? Why did Pete, a staunch defender of the Constitution, voluntarily provide a DNA sample? Anyway, thanks Bruce. You are a determined and diligent journalist who digs deep. I really appreciate your numerous contributions. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MarkBennett 5 #29774 January 7, 2012 Good summary, Robert. One thing that stands out about the Christianson theory, as opposed to all the others, is that it assumes hijacker did get away with the money. If so, there might still be some bills in circulation somewhere. It's too bad nobody stamped wheresgeorge.com (or wheresandrew.com) on bills in 1971. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 197 #29775 January 7, 2012 I am disappointed that some other folks on this thread have not researched her claims, instead of accepting them on their face. . ONLY Blevins can gnarfle the garfunk! WE DONT NEEED SNOW! 377 stop asking - you have blevins! Blevins knows it when he "seize" it. Gag me with a silver Blevins! Or a silver Snow. Or a silver Blevins. Or a silver Snow. Or a silver 377 ........... whatever. Stop beating us with your tail! and the other thing in the corner of the room, too. 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smokin99 0 #29768 January 7, 2012 Quote You are referencing pictures of Henry Selick who was a stand-in for McCoy, approved by Judge Ritter. I have detailed close-up photos available that show Henry before and after his free plastic surgery. I posted real pics of McCoy a couple days ago. You can also view the blow-up on DB Cooper Site, Facebook. Mac looked his real age, four months older than me, without his typical beard. Cooper was 20 years older! Mac had a full head of black hair, hazel eyes that he claimed were blue, they were not. And a Z shaped scar by his right eye. Contrary to official reports, he was never in VietNam and was given medals as a cover. He was actually training Weber during part of that time. He was an extremely experienced jumper at the time Weber jumped, not a beginner. The rest is classified. No comment. Ask Mac. McCoy was not Cooper. He was Mormon. He believed in the "better good" philosophy. Well I sure am glad you cleared all that up. I'll take a look at that Facebook site directly.... (that's a southern time measurement..... along with after while, in a little while, bout sundown, at the crack of dawn, in two shake's of a sheep's tail, aimin to, fixin to, and my all time favorite....tomorrow. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #29769 January 7, 2012 QuoteQuotehttp://www.columbian.com/news/2011/nov/26/captivated-by-cooper/?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150430042237372_20074447_10150439476512372#f3b8b00be94744e This has a family "relative" of mine quoted. I almost spit my Jack Daniels and Coke (light on the coke) out! He is a SF Vet, 5th GRP, Viet Nam, A Team Leader. He, like I, believe that "Cooper" jumped and survived the jump, then we disagree on the survival post landing. Matt Quote Who's the "family" member, Matt? What does he think about Ted Braden, and would he care to chat about MAC V SOG? I'd love to talk with him. [email protected]; (360) 832-6248 Thanks. Bruce I dunno any of the answers, but I will ask. Of course reading the article will put you in touch with him faster. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29770 January 7, 2012 QuoteOne says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more... Can you ask them to look for the Lost Dutchman Mine during their wilderness lunch break? A Bigfoot pyramid is out there too, I just know it. Forget Carr and Ng. We need Scully and Mulder. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EVickiW 0 #29771 January 7, 2012 Quote I'll take a look at that Facebook site directly.... Don't bother...the FaceBook DB Cooper page started by Larry Carr was closed the end of July. Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29772 January 7, 2012 Robert, I sincerely respect your turnaround on the Marla ban. You listened to reason and criticism and changed your position. That process is exceedingly rare in this neighborhood. Dare we hope for Quade to relent on the Snomman ban? Certainly the sentence already served is long enough for the crime committed. How about a conditional parole? I can't call any favors from Quade cause he doesn't owe me any. I can only appeal based on hope. It's a new year Quade. How about some clemency? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 21 #29773 January 7, 2012 Bruce, It was heartwarming to think of Sheridan Petersons surprise and pleasure in receiving some holiday cheer from his dropzone colleagues. Thanks for tracking him down and reestablishing a broken connection. Eagle Eye Pete is a fascinating guy aside and apart from any connection to Cooper. I hope we will hear more from him. Let's assume for the purpose of argument that he isn't Cooper, after all the FBI cleared him after he provided a DNA sample. Every quality and skill that makes him a viable suspect also makes him a valuable sleuth. We guess about wilderness jumps. He's made many as a veteran USFS smoke jumper. We wonder if jumpers in Viet Nam heard rumors about the Air America 727 jumps in Thailand. He was there and could tell us. He's made night jumps with round canopies. He can tell us what he thinks about Cooper's jump. He knows a LOT about freefall instability issues when you start attaching things. Pete was a wing suit pioneer and got kicked out of USPA for his home made bat wing experiments. He worked at Boeing during the 727 years. He also started a Boeing Skydive Club. Who at Boeing knew that a 727 could be jumped? He is an ex Marine and can bring that experience to the case. Pete was grilled twice by the FBI. Why did they initially suspect him? What was the nature of the interviews? Why did Pete, a staunch defender of the Constitution, voluntarily provide a DNA sample? Anyway, thanks Bruce. You are a determined and diligent journalist who digs deep. I really appreciate your numerous contributions. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MarkBennett 5 #29774 January 7, 2012 Good summary, Robert. One thing that stands out about the Christianson theory, as opposed to all the others, is that it assumes hijacker did get away with the money. If so, there might still be some bills in circulation somewhere. It's too bad nobody stamped wheresgeorge.com (or wheresandrew.com) on bills in 1971. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 197 #29775 January 7, 2012 I am disappointed that some other folks on this thread have not researched her claims, instead of accepting them on their face. . ONLY Blevins can gnarfle the garfunk! WE DONT NEEED SNOW! 377 stop asking - you have blevins! Blevins knows it when he "seize" it. Gag me with a silver Blevins! Or a silver Snow. Or a silver Blevins. Or a silver Snow. Or a silver 377 ........... whatever. Stop beating us with your tail! and the other thing in the corner of the room, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 21 #29770 January 7, 2012 QuoteOne says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more... Can you ask them to look for the Lost Dutchman Mine during their wilderness lunch break? A Bigfoot pyramid is out there too, I just know it. Forget Carr and Ng. We need Scully and Mulder. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVickiW 0 #29771 January 7, 2012 Quote I'll take a look at that Facebook site directly.... Don't bother...the FaceBook DB Cooper page started by Larry Carr was closed the end of July. Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 21 #29772 January 7, 2012 Robert, I sincerely respect your turnaround on the Marla ban. You listened to reason and criticism and changed your position. That process is exceedingly rare in this neighborhood. Dare we hope for Quade to relent on the Snomman ban? Certainly the sentence already served is long enough for the crime committed. How about a conditional parole? I can't call any favors from Quade cause he doesn't owe me any. I can only appeal based on hope. It's a new year Quade. How about some clemency? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 21 #29773 January 7, 2012 Bruce, It was heartwarming to think of Sheridan Petersons surprise and pleasure in receiving some holiday cheer from his dropzone colleagues. Thanks for tracking him down and reestablishing a broken connection. Eagle Eye Pete is a fascinating guy aside and apart from any connection to Cooper. I hope we will hear more from him. Let's assume for the purpose of argument that he isn't Cooper, after all the FBI cleared him after he provided a DNA sample. Every quality and skill that makes him a viable suspect also makes him a valuable sleuth. We guess about wilderness jumps. He's made many as a veteran USFS smoke jumper. We wonder if jumpers in Viet Nam heard rumors about the Air America 727 jumps in Thailand. He was there and could tell us. He's made night jumps with round canopies. He can tell us what he thinks about Cooper's jump. He knows a LOT about freefall instability issues when you start attaching things. Pete was a wing suit pioneer and got kicked out of USPA for his home made bat wing experiments. He worked at Boeing during the 727 years. He also started a Boeing Skydive Club. Who at Boeing knew that a 727 could be jumped? He is an ex Marine and can bring that experience to the case. Pete was grilled twice by the FBI. Why did they initially suspect him? What was the nature of the interviews? Why did Pete, a staunch defender of the Constitution, voluntarily provide a DNA sample? Anyway, thanks Bruce. You are a determined and diligent journalist who digs deep. I really appreciate your numerous contributions. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkBennett 5 #29774 January 7, 2012 Good summary, Robert. One thing that stands out about the Christianson theory, as opposed to all the others, is that it assumes hijacker did get away with the money. If so, there might still be some bills in circulation somewhere. It's too bad nobody stamped wheresgeorge.com (or wheresandrew.com) on bills in 1971. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 197 #29775 January 7, 2012 I am disappointed that some other folks on this thread have not researched her claims, instead of accepting them on their face. . ONLY Blevins can gnarfle the garfunk! WE DONT NEEED SNOW! 377 stop asking - you have blevins! Blevins knows it when he "seize" it. Gag me with a silver Blevins! Or a silver Snow. Or a silver Blevins. Or a silver Snow. Or a silver 377 ........... whatever. Stop beating us with your tail! and the other thing in the corner of the room, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
