phoenixlpr 0 #26 June 24, 2008 QuoteOr a sign that you are a very good packer. Or that you maintain your gear to the highest standards. Or that you are very reliable in your body position on deployment. Or that you are just a little bit lucky. Who would be the perfect pilot for you? Someone with a nice clean record and lots of hours of experience or some m0therf0cker war veteran who has crashed a dozen of planes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VTmotoMike08 0 #27 June 24, 2008 I understand and agree with what you are implying. I never implied that not having a mal somehow makes you a better skydiver. And since we are picking at the tiny details here, I will add that your comment about pilots only applies to skydiving in the sense of someone else damaging your gear midflight, as you are implying that the veteran war pilot got shot down in flight and managed to save himself. If he got in an airplane that he knew was bad, or one that he improperly maintained himself, or one that he did not do a pre-flight check on, then I think that is indeed a reflection of his skill as a pilot and/ or mechanic. The only thing that my post was implying was a curiosity as to who has been lucky the longest, nothing else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #28 June 24, 2008 I'm not sure if this is up to date or not...I know Pip had just recently said he had provided all of his jump numbers and was #2.... Pip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #29 June 24, 2008 My numbers in my profile are accurate. I have not had a cut away yet. Does that make me a less competent skydiver? It's not like I chose not to have any cut aways. I didn't do anything special. btw I have 139 jumps for this year and almost 300 jumps for last year and over 300 for the year before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #30 June 24, 2008 Quote Quote Or a sign that you are a very good packer. Or that you maintain your gear to the highest standards. Or that you are very reliable in your body position on deployment. Or that you are just a little bit lucky. Who would be the perfect pilot for you? Someone with a nice clean record and lots of hours of experience or some m0therf0cker war veteran who has crashed a dozen of planes? What about the pilot that argues all day in aerobatics internet forums? Certainly that has to compensate for his level of currency. Hugs and kisses Gabor. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #31 June 24, 2008 QuoteI have not had a cut away yet. Does that make me a less competent skydiver? It's not like I chose not to have any cut aways. I didn't do anything special. That's just only one aspect of skydiving, I guess you know too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drdive 0 #32 June 24, 2008 Quote I think Pip has him beat...I know he's never had a sport rig cutaway and he's currently number 2 in the world in total jumps... geez I hope I don't jinx you there Pip! Story about Pip: We were at Z hills, I had about 220 jumps, Ladydyver about 80. We were going to do a 2 way, this guy comes up, introduces himself, "Hi I'm Pip - do you want to do a 3 way?" Being cautious of who we jump with, I casually ask about jump #'s, not wanting some yo-yo to wreck our nice little 2 way. Anyway, I consented to let him jump with us and turned the most points on that 3 way ever, until a jump last week when we got 15 on a 3 way. I had no idea he was 2nd in the world! I'll sure save his signature in my log book. Doc"We saved your gear. Now you can sell it when you get out of the hospital and upsize!!" "K-Dub" " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
docdialtone 0 #33 June 25, 2008 Karma is a bitch so I refuse to answer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #34 June 25, 2008 Re: 2nd in the world! Eric Fradet has 25K +, Bill Dause 32K or 33K + and the guy back east in the Poconos ( sorry but went blank on his name ) has ~ 35K +. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #35 June 25, 2008 Last time Guiness Records was involved they certified Don Kellner carried out his 34,000th skydive on the 13th July, 2003. He's currently over 37,000 jumps. His wife has over 15,000 herself. http://www.dkellner.info/DonKellner.html. Kirk Verner is upwards of 22,000 right now last I heard and Jim Wallace had did his 19,000 jump back in 2007. Dan Brodsky-Chenfeld had 18,000+ when he moved back to Perris in 2003 and a newspaper article quoted him at 21000 in 2005. Craig Girard has to be in the 18-19,000 jump range by now too. Don and Bill Dause were in the lead but there were a few only 6-8000 jump behind. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #36 June 25, 2008 Who cares? You are only as good as your last jump. Jim Wallace has 20,000 + jumps and Dan BC has more than that. The important thing is they are still alive. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #37 June 25, 2008 QuoteHaving no cutaway is not honour. Its just a sign that you have not proven to save your life in a high stress crisis. ??? If your point is that you only know for sure that you can react correctly at a malfunction, after you had one, than I agree with you. If you tell me that you are a better skydiver when you had x reserve-rides, because your gear or your packing is bad, ... QuoteNo surprise that TMs are required to have them. Sorry but a real cutaway after a malfunction (without another backup canopy) or an intentional cutaway on special gear is not the same thing. Jurgen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #38 June 25, 2008 Quote Last time Guiness Records was involved they certified Don Kellner carried out his 34,000th skydive on the 13th July, 2003. He's currently over 37,000 jumps. His wife has over 15,000 herself. http://www.dkellner.info/DonKellner.html. Is it known how many of Don Kellners jumps are hop'n'pops ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #39 June 25, 2008 Quote Quote I hope I have 1 not long after I start jumping. Be careful what you wish for... while visiting a DZ in seattle, I watch a guy have a chop on jump #1. it was a bow tie, and he was given instructions on cutting away from the ground. hell of a jump for jump # 1. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhathaway 0 #40 June 25, 2008 MY last cut-away was 6000 jumps ago. Pip Redvers has 17,500 sport rig jumps, with ZERO cutaways. (1 total) he has another 1,500 tandem jumps with a couple of cut aways on tandem. My cut aways were about 66 jumps, 1600 jumps, and 6500 jumps.My O.C.D. has me chasing a dream my A.D.D. won't let me catch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #41 June 25, 2008 What is it with you and 6's??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tmaricle55 0 #42 June 25, 2008 Quote What is it with you and 6's??? Things that make you go humm... Muff Brother # 3883, SCR # 14796 ICD # 1 - Pres. Yeah, I noticed and I think it's funny! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhathaway 0 #43 June 25, 2008 Yeah, I was really freaking out 2 weeks ago when I made jump number 13,666. My O.C.D. has me chasing a dream my A.D.D. won't let me catch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #44 June 25, 2008 Do you still keep a paper log book? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhathaway 0 #45 June 25, 2008 yes, paperlogbook. My beepers beep. They don't keep track of my jumps.......My O.C.D. has me chasing a dream my A.D.D. won't let me catch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacketsdb23 45 #46 June 25, 2008 I've noticed spectre canopies with several long time jumpers with 0 cutaways. Anyone know if high performance canopy pilots can reach the same number of jumps (3000+, just to throw out a number) without chopping? I'm guessing it can be done but is a little more rare. I know a spectre 120 would technically be considered high performance. I just can't see many people jumping a velocity and getting 3000 jumps without a spinner. I could be completely wrong.Losers make excuses, Winners make it happen God is Good Beer is Great Swoopers are crazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #47 June 25, 2008 Quote Quote Last time Guiness Records was involved they certified Don Kellner carried out his 34,000th skydive on the 13th July, 2003. He's currently over 37,000 jumps. His wife has over 15,000 herself. http://www.dkellner.info/DonKellner.html. Is it known how many of Don Kellners jumps are hop'n'pops ? The rumor is that he jumps just about every day that he can. I have no idea what % are hopnpops. Look for his wife to pipe in here again with some corrections. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficus 0 #48 June 25, 2008 QuoteI've noticed spectre canopies with several long time jumpers with 0 cutaways. Anyone know if high performance canopy pilots can reach the same number of jumps (3000+, just to throw out a number) without chopping? I'm guessing it can be done but is a little more rare. I know a spectre 120 would technically be considered high performance. I just can't see many people jumping a velocity and getting 3000 jumps without a spinner. I could be completely wrong. There is someone at your home DZ who has over 3000 jumps, 2 rigs with Velocities in them, and no cutaways. Let the guessing game begin! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elias123 0 #49 June 25, 2008 A jumper at my DZ has 9000+ jumps and 1 cutaway."In a mad world, only the mad are sane" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacketsdb23 45 #50 June 25, 2008 I'm guessing its Q. But jump #1 wasn't on a velocity So ok, he has 2000+/- jumps without a chop on a velocity. Thats still pretty good. Losers make excuses, Winners make it happen God is Good Beer is Great Swoopers are crazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites