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[SkyDekker 1,123]

15 hours ago, billeisele said:

On the music video ... the surveys and social media posts I've seen show overwhelming support of Aldean.

I am not surprised. In many ways, I am sure he reminds them of themselves. Talk tough, but cower when it something actually happens.

Aldean was on stage, at the microphone when the Las Vegas mass shooting started. When he realized what was happening he ran away. Did he use his microphone to tell people to take cover? Did he try and communicate anything? Did he try and help anybody?

No, he didn't. He just ran like a cowered and thought only about himself.

So yeah, I am not surprised many people relate.

[SkyDekker 1,123]

15 hours ago, billeisele said:

Anyone watch some of the women's US soccer team at the World Cup "disrespect the flag" by not putting their hand over their heart or singing the national anthem? Not smart.

I have never seen anybody in a US military uniform put their hands over their hearts or sing the national anthem, unless they are performing.

Since Americans seem to think soldiers are the ultimate patriots, why is their silence perfect, but anybody else's silence "not smart?"

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

27 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

I have never seen anybody in a US military uniform put their hands over their hearts or sing the national anthem, unless they are performing.

Since Americans seem to think soldiers are the ultimate patriots, why is their silence perfect, but anybody else's silence "not smart?"

"Performance Patriotism".

You're not a REAL 'patriot' unless you have about 20 US flags flying from your truck, including the altered 'blue line' ones.
And wearing red white & blue everything*.

* - of course, the 'code of conduct' for the US flag covers any sort of alteration to the flag, any placement of 'other emblems' on it. Or 'wearing the flag as apparel'. 
Helpful hint: those sorts of things are prohibited.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/8

[grimmie 173]

On 7/23/2023 at 11:33 AM, brenthutch said:

A song, and it goes to number one 

Righties boycott a corporation and it loses billions.

People like you that take great joy in such issues are what is dividing America.

 

You lack the intelligence, empathy and courage to look at all sides of an issue.

 

You think it’s fun that an entire section of America makes fun of a kind, loving, funny young girl.

You have zero insight into why a music video with lyrics aimed at denigrating black America is disturbing. And energizing MAGA world. Filmed at the site of a lynching.

 Because you back the blue, unless they are defending the Capitol from a bunch of white folks you side with. Because those asshats spit on cops and used flags to beat them. I guess that wouldn’t have happened in a small town.

 

so do you love or hate cancel culture? Such a conundrum.

 

It must be painful to live life viewing everything through a left or right magnifying glass.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 24, 2023 by grimmie

[brenthutch 383]

36 minutes ago, grimmie said:

You think it’s fun that an entire section of America makes fun of a kind, loving, funny young girl.
 

No one is making fun of a “kind, loving, funny young girl” I don’t know what you are talking about.  You must be a graduate of BillV’s school of self delusion.

[grimmie 173]

Thanks for proving my points.

[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

5 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

I am not surprised. In many ways, I am sure he reminds them of themselves. Talk tough, but cower when it something actually happens.

Aldean was on stage, at the microphone when the Las Vegas mass shooting started. When he realized what was happening he ran away. Did he use his microphone to tell people to take cover? Did he try and communicate anything? Did he try and help anybody?

No, he didn't. He just ran like a cowered and thought only about himself.

So yeah, I am not surprised many people relate.

Hi Sky,

Right up there with 'The Good Guy With a Gun' who shits his pants when actually confronted.

We had one of those 'Good Guys' at the Clackamas Town Center shooting back in 2012.  He cowered out of sight until things were over.

Jerry Baumchen

 

 

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

49 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Sky,

Right up there with 'The Good Guy With a Gun' who shits his pants when actually confronted.

We had one of those 'Good Guys' at the Clackamas Town Center shooting back in 2012.  He cowered out of sight until things were over.

Jerry Baumchen

 

 

Seen elsewhere:

Uvalde is a small town. Edmond is a small town. Blacksburg is a small town. Sandy Hook is a small town. Sutherland Springs is a small town. And in those towns, real bad guys showed up, and no good guys magically took them down.

[billeisele 122]

The collection of replies is amusing, disheartening, false, and so many other words.

It starts with immature name calling and labeling. That's never good but apparently OK here.

Moves to the false assumption that people are afraid of someone. No, they are just tired of certain things and don't want to be associated with them. What happened to, "to each his own." They simply chose to move on and disassociate themselves with a certain lifestyle. Actions have consequences. The two executives were "put on leave" while 350 employees are losing their jobs.

Religion is again inserted as if that's the sole guiding force and that everyone interprets "being religious" in the same way. Having a sole defining belief is for the zealots, IMO, most people aren't that way. 

Why insert new thoughts then assign them as if they were stated facts? Makes no sense. Using references to historical facts as if they were current news is equally senseless. Things change, remember that the D party was the slave party.

Then there's the comment about not smart and "racist hicks" generalizations. That says plenty about ignorance and hate. 

To Jerry's point, yes, folks are free to do what they want. They weren't at attention or being respectful, as required by the team rules. And they aren't veterans. Big differences. Be on the team, follow the rules. Don't want to follow the rules, get punished. It's not complicated. 

Apparently if you are labeled a conservative you are the ONE that called Obama a raghead. Of course. it's just not possible that people with conservative values disagreed with that term or similar terms used to disparage people. Those same people, by definition, aren't allowed to disagree with Trump and the way he disparages people. That presumption is just wrong.

The silent majority isn't just "conservatives."  Here's that label again, as if everyone that has a conservative-like belief can be shoved into that box and thus defined in that manner. That is not reality. People can and do have ideas that are defined as conservative and also have beliefs that are defined as liberal. Exactly what box is that? I don't know, maybe that's the vast majority of those in the middle. Is that the "I" box?

Interesting that there's no outrage about other entertainers with music videos flashing guns, promoting violence, reveling in destruction, full of race hating and disgusting language. 

As for the free country thing. That's seems to be OK until it's not. Folks flying a confederate flag certainly feel that way. Luckily that's not seen much anymore. People do get offended when their "rights" are constrained.

10-15 years ago the power company I worked for decided that folks flying a confederate flag from their truck wasn't acceptable. The primary person doing that had ancestors that were in the Civil War. He "said" that for him it was his history. But ... someone was offended so the policy was made. No surprise, in the following weeks dozens of trucks had flags in the rear window and there were plenty of bumper stickers. The policy said no flag flying, so it was OK. It wasn't about the flag it was about having rights restricted. "If I can't fly my flag because "they" are offended then they have to remove the various flags and symbols that they have because I'm offended by that." So it started, putting people in a box and labeling them. This issue got way out of hand. It took a sit-down with the company President with a room full of folks on both sides to resolve it. Everyone agreed it had gotten stupid. The flag guy calmed down and shared his family history. One appointed person on the other side shared his personal experiences and family history. They all agreed to calm down, respect each other's rights and to talk. The "family" that had been whole, then divided, was back together. For sure, all wounds weren't healed but they understood each other. When the next big storm came they were out, working side by side, restoring power. Having common goals works. 

Tolerance is needed on both sides of any issue. Shoving people into a box, labeling them, making false assumptions and accusations, none of that is good. Yet, as we see here, it's commonly done.

This "majority" doesn't always fit into anything stated as some of these posts say. They aren't always silent and they aren't always meek or mild. I saw it firsthand in Charleston SC when certain "groups" bused in protestors to wreck the city. The weak Mayor told the cops to just stand by and allow them to do whatever. The local boys rallied, went downtown with their big trucks and ran that crowd out of the city. They then went to their suppliers and loaded up on plywood to help the store owners board up their shops. They sat in their trucks on street corners with their scary black guns as a warning for the troublemakers to stay away. It worked. Call from a tourist, "911 - what is your emergency. I'm in a boutique hotel on King St and there are two big guys sitting in a big truck on the corner of Cannon and King. They have assault weapons!!! 911 operator - Are they doing anything? Tourist - no they are just sitting there. 911 operator - OK, well let us know if anything changes. They have been there all night and they are helping us." Maybe some other cities could have been helped instead of occupied and destroyed. 

There are a ton of people that are in the middle ground. There are Ds and Rs that don't "fit" the purported model. The way one sees the R's and the D's isn't the same and they certainly don't conveniently fit in some box. Same goes for religion, gender issues and many other hot topic issues. Just because one has certain defined bioxes constraing their personal thoughts doesn't mean that is how the rest of the world thinks.

 

 

[JoeWeber 2,299]

59 minutes ago, billeisele said:

Call from a tourist, "911 - what is your emergency. I'm in a boutique hotel on King St and there are two big guys sitting in a big truck on the corner of Cannon and King. They have assault weapons!!! 911 operator - Are they doing anything? Tourist - no they are just sitting there. 911 operator - OK, well let us know if anything changes. They have been there all night and they are helping us."

You wouldn't mind directing my attention to your source for this delightful story, would you? I am honestly torn over which I'll enjoy most, that it is absolutely word perfect true, that it's a regurgitated meme, or that you just made it up. In any case thanks for the laugh.

[SkyDekker 1,123]

2 hours ago, billeisele said:

Be on the team, follow the rules. Don't want to follow the rules, get punished. It's not complicated. 

Unless the Deep State is responsible, then blame the Deep State and  deny everything else.

 

[Phil1111 911]

3 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

You wouldn't mind directing my attention to your source for this delightful story, would you? I am honestly torn over which I'll enjoy most, that it is absolutely word perfect true, that it's a regurgitated meme, or that you just made it up. In any case thanks for the laugh.

Most likely imagination. Just like his description of conservatives as the "silent majority" when its properly described as the belligerent minority.

[JoeWeber 2,299]

2 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Most likely imagination. Just like his description of conservatives as the "silent majority" when its properly described as the belligerent minority.

I reckon he heard it and believes it happened. Myself, I can hardly believe he believes that what he believes doesn't inform what he believes, if you can believe that.

[gowlerk 1,914]

11 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

I reckon he heard it and believes it happened. Myself, I can hardly believe he believes that what he believes doesn't inform what he believes, if you can believe that.

It’s the same as Ron. It’s all about the feels.

[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

5 hours ago, billeisele said:

The collection of replies is amusing, disheartening, false, and so many other words.

It starts with immature name calling and labeling. That's never good but apparently OK here.

Moves to the false assumption that people are afraid of someone. No, they are just tired of certain things and don't want to be associated with them. What happened to, "to each his own." They simply chose to move on and disassociate themselves with a certain lifestyle. Actions have consequences. The two executives were "put on leave" while 350 employees are losing their jobs.

Religion is again inserted as if that's the sole guiding force and that everyone interprets "being religious" in the same way. Having a sole defining belief is for the zealots, IMO, most people aren't that way. 

Why insert new thoughts then assign them as if they were stated facts? Makes no sense. Using references to historical facts as if they were current news is equally senseless. Things change, remember that the D party was the slave party.

Then there's the comment about not smart and "racist hicks" generalizations. That says plenty about ignorance and hate. 

To Jerry's point, yes, folks are free to do what they want. They weren't at attention or being respectful, as required by the team rules. And they aren't veterans. Big differences. Be on the team, follow the rules. Don't want to follow the rules, get punished. It's not complicated. 

Apparently if you are labeled a conservative you are the ONE that called Obama a raghead. Of course. it's just not possible that people with conservative values disagreed with that term or similar terms used to disparage people. Those same people, by definition, aren't allowed to disagree with Trump and the way he disparages people. That presumption is just wrong.

The silent majority isn't just "conservatives."  Here's that label again, as if everyone that has a conservative-like belief can be shoved into that box and thus defined in that manner. That is not reality. People can and do have ideas that are defined as conservative and also have beliefs that are defined as liberal. Exactly what box is that? I don't know, maybe that's the vast majority of those in the middle. Is that the "I" box?

Interesting that there's no outrage about other entertainers with music videos flashing guns, promoting violence, reveling in destruction, full of race hating and disgusting language. 

As for the free country thing. That's seems to be OK until it's not. Folks flying a confederate flag certainly feel that way. Luckily that's not seen much anymore. People do get offended when their "rights" are constrained.

10-15 years ago the power company I worked for decided that folks flying a confederate flag from their truck wasn't acceptable. The primary person doing that had ancestors that were in the Civil War. He "said" that for him it was his history. But ... someone was offended so the policy was made. No surprise, in the following weeks dozens of trucks had flags in the rear window and there were plenty of bumper stickers. The policy said no flag flying, so it was OK. It wasn't about the flag it was about having rights restricted. "If I can't fly my flag because "they" are offended then they have to remove the various flags and symbols that they have because I'm offended by that." So it started, putting people in a box and labeling them. This issue got way out of hand. It took a sit-down with the company President with a room full of folks on both sides to resolve it. Everyone agreed it had gotten stupid. The flag guy calmed down and shared his family history. One appointed person on the other side shared his personal experiences and family history. They all agreed to calm down, respect each other's rights and to talk. The "family" that had been whole, then divided, was back together. For sure, all wounds weren't healed but they understood each other. When the next big storm came they were out, working side by side, restoring power. Having common goals works. 

Tolerance is needed on both sides of any issue. Shoving people into a box, labeling them, making false assumptions and accusations, none of that is good. Yet, as we see here, it's commonly done.

This "majority" doesn't always fit into anything stated as some of these posts say. They aren't always silent and they aren't always meek or mild. I saw it firsthand in Charleston SC when certain "groups" bused in protestors to wreck the city. The weak Mayor told the cops to just stand by and allow them to do whatever. The local boys rallied, went downtown with their big trucks and ran that crowd out of the city. They then went to their suppliers and loaded up on plywood to help the store owners board up their shops. They sat in their trucks on street corners with their scary black guns as a warning for the troublemakers to stay away. It worked. Call from a tourist, "911 - what is your emergency. I'm in a boutique hotel on King St and there are two big guys sitting in a big truck on the corner of Cannon and King. They have assault weapons!!! 911 operator - Are they doing anything? Tourist - no they are just sitting there. 911 operator - OK, well let us know if anything changes. They have been there all night and they are helping us." Maybe some other cities could have been helped instead of occupied and destroyed. 

There are a ton of people that are in the middle ground. There are Ds and Rs that don't "fit" the purported model. The way one sees the R's and the D's isn't the same and they certainly don't conveniently fit in some box. Same goes for religion, gender issues and many other hot topic issues. Just because one has certain defined bioxes constraing their personal thoughts doesn't mean that is how the rest of the world thinks.

 

 

Hi Bill,

There is a house just down the street from me.  I drive by it almost every day.

About a yr or so ago, he hung a flag on his fence [ can't miss it when you drive by ] that said something about stopping socialism. 

Hm, OK, wonder what he feels about the police and fire dep'ts?

Then about 8-9 months ago, he hung another flag on his fence:  Trump 2024

Well, that is beginning to define him.

Now, both flags are gone.

Looks like some neighbors may have had a 'talk' with him.

Me, I just thought he was another idiot.  However, I not once asked him to take down either flag.

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 1,623]

11 hours ago, billeisele said:

 

To Jerry's point, yes, folks are free to do what they want.  

 

 

Unless it's a woman wanting an abortion in a red state.  Then  conservatives want to force her to go through pregnancy and childbirth.

[JoeWeber 2,299]

41 minutes ago, kallend said:

Unless it's a woman wanting an abortion in a red state.  Then  conservatives want to force her to go through pregnancy and childbirth.

Right, it's as if Bill is willfully clueless about the abortion laws in his own state or what personal freedom really means. 

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

10 hours ago, kallend said:

Unless it's a woman wanting an abortion in a red state.  Then  conservatives want to force her to go through pregnancy and childbirth.

Or a parent wanting proper treatment for their child's gender dysphoria.

Or a parent wanting their children to be taught history.

Or a parent wanting their child to be able to choose what books to read.

Or someone wanting to marry the person they want to.

Or someone wanting to vote.

[ryoder 1,384]

11 hours ago, kallend said:

Unless it's a woman wanting an abortion in a red state.  Then  conservatives want to force her to go through pregnancy and childbirth.

Or just do what Texas women do:

Abortions surge in Colorado amid 500% increase in patients from Texas

[wmw999 2,122]

2 hours ago, ryoder said:

Or just do what Texas women do:

Abortions surge in Colorado amid 500% increase in patients from Texas

Rich people can always get what they want. But one shouldn’t judge a society based on how it treats rich people

Wendy P.

[JoeWeber 2,299]

On 7/29/2023 at 7:24 AM, billeisele said:

The collection of replies is amusing, disheartening, false, and so many other words.

It starts with immature name calling and labeling. That's never good but apparently OK here.

Moves to the false assumption that people are afraid of someone. No, they are just tired of certain things and don't want to be associated with them. What happened to, "to each his own." They simply chose to move on and disassociate themselves with a certain lifestyle. Actions have consequences. The two executives were "put on leave" while 350 employees are losing their jobs.

Religion is again inserted as if that's the sole guiding force and that everyone interprets "being religious" in the same way. Having a sole defining belief is for the zealots, IMO, most people aren't that way. 

Why insert new thoughts then assign them as if they were stated facts? Makes no sense. Using references to historical facts as if they were current news is equally senseless. Things change, remember that the D party was the slave party.

Then there's the comment about not smart and "racist hicks" generalizations. That says plenty about ignorance and hate. 

To Jerry's point, yes, folks are free to do what they want. They weren't at attention or being respectful, as required by the team rules. And they aren't veterans. Big differences. Be on the team, follow the rules. Don't want to follow the rules, get punished. It's not complicated. 

Apparently if you are labeled a conservative you are the ONE that called Obama a raghead. Of course. it's just not possible that people with conservative values disagreed with that term or similar terms used to disparage people. Those same people, by definition, aren't allowed to disagree with Trump and the way he disparages people. That presumption is just wrong.

The silent majority isn't just "conservatives."  Here's that label again, as if everyone that has a conservative-like belief can be shoved into that box and thus defined in that manner. That is not reality. People can and do have ideas that are defined as conservative and also have beliefs that are defined as liberal. Exactly what box is that? I don't know, maybe that's the vast majority of those in the middle. Is that the "I" box?

Interesting that there's no outrage about other entertainers with music videos flashing guns, promoting violence, reveling in destruction, full of race hating and disgusting language. 

As for the free country thing. That's seems to be OK until it's not. Folks flying a confederate flag certainly feel that way. Luckily that's not seen much anymore. People do get offended when their "rights" are constrained.

10-15 years ago the power company I worked for decided that folks flying a confederate flag from their truck wasn't acceptable. The primary person doing that had ancestors that were in the Civil War. He "said" that for him it was his history. But ... someone was offended so the policy was made. No surprise, in the following weeks dozens of trucks had flags in the rear window and there were plenty of bumper stickers. The policy said no flag flying, so it was OK. It wasn't about the flag it was about having rights restricted. "If I can't fly my flag because "they" are offended then they have to remove the various flags and symbols that they have because I'm offended by that." So it started, putting people in a box and labeling them. This issue got way out of hand. It took a sit-down with the company President with a room full of folks on both sides to resolve it. Everyone agreed it had gotten stupid. The flag guy calmed down and shared his family history. One appointed person on the other side shared his personal experiences and family history. They all agreed to calm down, respect each other's rights and to talk. The "family" that had been whole, then divided, was back together. For sure, all wounds weren't healed but they understood each other. When the next big storm came they were out, working side by side, restoring power. Having common goals works. 

Tolerance is needed on both sides of any issue. Shoving people into a box, labeling them, making false assumptions and accusations, none of that is good. Yet, as we see here, it's commonly done.

This "majority" doesn't always fit into anything stated as some of these posts say. They aren't always silent and they aren't always meek or mild. I saw it firsthand in Charleston SC when certain "groups" bused in protestors to wreck the city. The weak Mayor told the cops to just stand by and allow them to do whatever. The local boys rallied, went downtown with their big trucks and ran that crowd out of the city. They then went to their suppliers and loaded up on plywood to help the store owners board up their shops. They sat in their trucks on street corners with their scary black guns as a warning for the troublemakers to stay away. It worked. Call from a tourist, "911 - what is your emergency. I'm in a boutique hotel on King St and there are two big guys sitting in a big truck on the corner of Cannon and King. They have assault weapons!!! 911 operator - Are they doing anything? Tourist - no they are just sitting there. 911 operator - OK, well let us know if anything changes. They have been there all night and they are helping us." Maybe some other cities could have been helped instead of occupied and destroyed. 

There are a ton of people that are in the middle ground. There are Ds and Rs that don't "fit" the purported model. The way one sees the R's and the D's isn't the same and they certainly don't conveniently fit in some box. Same goes for religion, gender issues and many other hot topic issues. Just because one has certain defined bioxes constraing their personal thoughts doesn't mean that is how the rest of the world thinks.

 

 

Come on, Bill, that was one hell of a diatribe and it elicited a fair bit of disagreement. Why make claims and then run away? You aren't running for USPA President I hope.

[billvon 2,400]

2 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Come on, Bill, that was one hell of a diatribe and it elicited a fair bit of disagreement. Why make claims and then run away? 

That's a lot easier than having a discussion.

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

8 hours ago, billvon said:

That's a lot easier than having a discussion.

Also a lot easier than having to defend all the lies in there.

Third paragraph.

"False assumption people are afraid".

Yeah, that's why they're shooting people on their front porch.

Because they AREN'T afraid of them.

The laws for use of deadly force in self defense ALL have words to the effect of 'in reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm'.

I'm not going to address each and every lie and falsehood in there, but there's a bunch.

[Phil1111 911]

7 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Also a lot easier than having to defend all the lies in there....
I'm not going to address each and every lie and falsehood in there, but there's a bunch.

 

11 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Come on, Bill, that was one hell of a diatribe and it elicited a fair bit of disagreement. Why make claims and then run away?

Because its

7 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

.. a lot easier than having to defend all the lies in there.....

With two great minds at the keyboards like above. When bombs get thrown its best to let their brainpower go to work.

Edited August 1, 2023 by Phil1111

[richravizza 25]

On 7/23/2023 at 5:31 PM, billeisele said:

The silent majority is learning that they have a voice. The self-appointed elites of the entertainment industry, music business, corporations and other organizations are getting a wake-up call. One road-marker is the Bud thing and now a song that has been mischaracterized.  

 

 

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