JerryBaumchen 1,049 #1 Posted June 3, 2023 Hi folks, From the link below: Utah's 2022 law banning any books containing "pornographic or indecent" material. The statement calls the Bible "one of the most sex-ridden books around," A Utah school district has removed the Bible from middle and elementary schools : NPR Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #2 June 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, From the link below: Utah's 2022 law banning any books containing "pornographic or indecent" material. The statement calls the Bible "one of the most sex-ridden books around," A Utah school district has removed the Bible from middle and elementary schools : NPR Jerry Baumchen That explains why its so popular with republicans. So some light reading before: "Why Hookers Love Republicans / At the GOP Convention, where scores of sex pros gear up to party with "moral" conservatives" and after! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #3 June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, From the link below: Utah's 2022 law banning any books containing "pornographic or indecent" material. The statement calls the Bible "one of the most sex-ridden books around," A Utah school district has removed the Bible from middle and elementary schools : NPR Jerry Baumchen Does that mean that Utahans (sp?) are only allowed to read from the Book of Mormon? Hah! Hah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnhking1 72 #4 June 3, 2023 Probably the best way to get a kid to read a book is tell them it is banned. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,632 #5 June 13, 2023 Meanwhile: Illinois becomes the first state in the U.S. to ban book bans Citing a “vitriolic strain of white nationalism,” Gov. JB Pritzker signed the measure withholding state grant money from libraries if they ban books. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #6 June 13, 2023 7 hours ago, kallend said: Meanwhile: Illinois becomes the first state in the U.S. to ban book bans Citing a “vitriolic strain of white nationalism,” Gov. JB Pritzker signed the measure withholding state grant money from libraries if they ban books. I'm looking at copies of Mein Kampf, The Koran, The Book of Mormon, et al. on my bookshelf, and don't recall being swayed by any of them. If anything, while reading them my reaction was that anyone who bought into this dreck is FUBAR. In general, anyone who takes much of any religious writing at face value has something severely wrong with them. Reading the Greek Myths as historical artifacts is enlightening, the same goes for the Hebrew and Christian Scriptures. Is any of it the Revealed Word of God (tm)? I have to remind myself that the question is more than rhetorical; though the very idea that the prime mover of the universe would generate such badly written compilations of applied ignorance as the basis of communication with the denizens of this particular backwater speck of dirt is beyond absurd, it is frightening to consider that easily half of humanity buys into some variation of that concept. I've read Plato, and he would have qualified for the ancient Greek version of NAMBLA. I wasn't swayed by his discussion of the ideal version of True Love, but do not think banning his work is a good idea. Much of what is subject to banning preys on the intellectual vulnerability to which our species is subject, but, as Ron White pointed out, you can't fix stupid. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 773 #7 June 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, winsor said: I'm looking at copies of Mein Kampf, The Koran, The Book of Mormon, et al. on my bookshelf, and don't recall being swayed by any of them. If anything, while reading them my reaction was that anyone who bought into this dreck is FUBAR. In general, anyone who takes much of any religious writing at face value has something severely wrong with them. Reading the Greek Myths as historical artifacts is enlightening, the same goes for the Hebrew and Christian Scriptures. Is any of it the Revealed Word of God (tm)? I have to remind myself that the question is more than rhetorical; though the very idea that the prime mover of the universe would generate such badly written compilations of applied ignorance as the basis of communication with the denizens of this particular backwater speck of dirt is beyond absurd, it is frightening to consider that easily half of humanity buys into some variation of that concept. I've read Plato, and he would have qualified for the ancient Greek version of NAMBLA. I wasn't swayed by his discussion of the ideal version of True Love, but do not think banning his work is a good idea. Much of what is subject to banning preys on the intellectual vulnerability to which our species is subject, but, as Ron White pointed out, you can't fix stupid. BSBD, Winsor TLDR: Winsor's still smarter than everybody else 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,390 #8 June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, winsor said: I'm looking at copies of Mein Kampf, The Koran, The Book of Mormon, et al. on my bookshelf, and don't recall being swayed by any of them. If anything, while reading them my reaction was that anyone who bought into this dreck is FUBAR. In general, anyone who takes much of any religious writing at face value has something severely wrong with them. I once had the ambition to read "Mein Kampf" and "Das Kapital"(Marx). I got as far as buying a copy of "Das Kapital" and attempting to read it. I cannot recall ever reading anything as gawdawful boring. Unless I find myself in prison with nothing else to read, I doubt I will ever complete it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #9 June 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, ryoder said: ... I cannot recall ever reading anything as gawdawful boring. Unless I find myself in prison with nothing else to read, I doubt I will ever complete it. So you've never read a transcript of a trump speech? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #10 June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, ryoder said: I once had the ambition to read "Mein Kampf" and "Das Kapital"(Marx). I got as far as buying a copy of "Das Kapital" and attempting to read it. I cannot recall ever reading anything as gawdawful boring. Unless I find myself in prison with nothing else to read, I doubt I will ever complete it. I have the same problem with Marx that I do with Ann Coulter, the lack of a volume knob. I finished "The Communist Manifesto" but gave up on a Coulter book because of her penchant for screaming on paper. Yeah, I get that you think badly of those that disagree with you, but let me come to the conclusion that they are poopyheads without you insisting that this is the case. "Mein Kampf" is a truly awful read, which I suppose is a qualification of a religious screed. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #11 June 13, 2023 2 hours ago, lippy said: TLDR: Winsor's still smarter than everybody else Lol. For all his flowery words Winsor is one of the most closed minded reactionaries to have ever posted on this forum. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,632 #12 June 13, 2023 2 hours ago, lippy said: TLDR: Winsor's still smarter than everybody else I have both jumped with Winsor and given a joint presentation wth him on skydiving safety. He's a pretty nice guy in person. And smart. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,402 #13 June 13, 2023 2 hours ago, kallend said: I have both jumped with Winsor and given a joint presentation wth him on skydiving safety. He's a pretty nice guy in person. And smart. Agreed. I organized with him at WFFC for years. The Internet can bring out the worst in people and give you a falsely negative sense of who they are. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #14 June 13, 2023 4 hours ago, kallend said: I have both jumped with Winsor and given a joint presentation wth him on skydiving safety. He's a pretty nice guy in person. And smart. 2 hours ago, billvon said: Agreed. I organized with him at WFFC for years. The Internet can bring out the worst in people and give you a falsely negative sense of who they are. The day starts and there is two lines of jumpers looking for loads to get on one goes to billvon and one to Winsor. Winsor starts listing the loads he has organized, his qualifications, the capabilities of each prospective A/C and its pilots.... Jumpers start to nod off.... billvon's 100 way three point load is landing and he starts to lay out the next jump. Winsor, John and Billvon are all pretty smart but in that aforementioned order the Kenworth air horn goes off at 100 psi. Then it goes down to the Prius beep, beep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,915 #15 June 13, 2023 6 hours ago, billvon said: The Internet can bring out the worst in people and give you a falsely negative sense of who they are. Or, put another way, the internet can give you a chance to feel safe to show who you really are with the protection of distance and little social consequences. On the other hand those who know me well would probably agree that even in person I am a grouchy and only semi-socialized asshole who spouts off too much just like I am here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,632 #16 June 18, 2023 Another example of the law of unintended consequences: Mexican beer Modelo Especial recently dethroned Bud Light as the top-selling beer brand in the U.S. I hope the bigots are happy with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,049 #17 June 18, 2023 5 hours ago, kallend said: Another example of the law of unintended consequences: Mexican beer Modelo Especial recently dethroned Bud Light as the top-selling beer brand in the U.S. I hope the bigots are happy with that. Hi John, This is the thing that always fascinates me. These idiots cannot think forward more than about 30 seconds. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,124 #18 June 18, 2023 I think for some people hurting the “enemy” is more important than helping a friend. Kind of like how some people can only improve themselves by stepping on someone else Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,345 #19 June 19, 2023 4 hours ago, wmw999 said: I think for some people hurting the “enemy” is more important than helping a friend. Kind of like how some people can only improve themselves by stepping on someone else Wendy P. Those same sorts of people will gladly hurt themselves as long as it hurts other people more. You know... Morons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 100 #20 June 19, 2023 13 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi John, This is the thing that always fascinates me. These idiots cannot think forward more than about 30 seconds. Jerry Baumchen They can think? Methinks you give them too much credit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #21 June 19, 2023 Also owned by the same parent company, AB InBev. Although there is a US distribution company in the middle as it's not brewed in the US. Boycott one product while supporting the same company. No wonder it's only about a 1% hit to the company worldwide. American ignorance at it's finest. LMMFAO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,390 #22 June 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, normiss said: Also owned by the same parent company, AB InBev. Although there is a US distribution company in the middle as it's not brewed in the US. Boycott one product while supporting the same company. No wonder it's only about a 1% hit to the company worldwide. American ignorance at it's finest. LMMFAO Youtuber Justin King commented some time back about seeing a pickup truck with an anti-Disney bumper sticker, and a "Punisher" logo in the rear window. ("The Punisher" is a Marvel Comics character, and Marvel is owned by...Disney). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #23 June 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, ryoder said: Youtuber Justin King commented some time back about seeing a pickup truck with an anti-Disney bumper sticker, and a "Punisher" logo in the rear window. ("The Punisher" is a Marvel Comics character, and Marvel is owned by...Disney). Stepping on their own tallywhackers and not realizing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,632 #24 June 19, 2023 3 hours ago, normiss said: Stepping on their own tallywhackers and not realizing it. "I love the poorly educated". 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,049 #25 June 19, 2023 2 hours ago, kallend said: "I love the poorly educated". Hi John, Every con man's favorite audience. Elmer Gantry would be proud. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites