JoeWeber 2,299 #1901 December 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: He claims to live in Florida, hard to call him a caricature of a Canadian man based on that. Of course, my propensity to make inaccurate observations once again overtook my sensibilities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #1902 December 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Of course, my propensity to make inaccurate observations once again overtook my sensibilities. You sure like to play aggrieved victim. Maybe this Florida sheriff is correct.... https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/1598053216520122369?s=20&t=ovYrEeyqkSHA4o5taj1eVQ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #1903 December 1, 2022 Five Russian energy facilities had accidents in the last day. A Russian oil refinery caught fire, a Russian power station 300 km east of Moscow, a Kursk area power plant and one 10km from the Ukrainian border. It sounds as if some safety meetings may be necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #1904 December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: You sure like to play aggrieved victim. Maybe this Florida sheriff is correct.... https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/1598053216520122369?s=20&t=ovYrEeyqkSHA4o5taj1eVQ Actually, my Canadian friend, it's ya'll who play the victims. No worries, enjoy your national feelies while us frontier, gun lovin', ninnies get a grip. In the meantime, while you're working out how to pay to be a part of the modern world we have you covered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #1905 December 1, 2022 29 minutes ago, Slim King said: SAVE THE CHILDREN ... So I asked you this before and you couldn't answer. You see a girl being bullied. The bully is trying to take her clothes off and crazy glue her to the school door, because he thinks that would be funny. You are bigger than the bully. Do you tell her to let him do it? Or do you stop the bully? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #1906 December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Slim King said: SAVE THE CHILDREN ... Russia has offered to negotiate peace and allow free elections in this area. Negotiate now before winter reaps a harvest of innocent children. https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/millions-c area supervise by. thildren-exposed-illnesses-hypothermia-big-freeze-hits-ukraine-says-save Why are you posting an article from March, when it's no longer remotely reflective of the events on the ground? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 421 #1907 December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Slim King said: WHO IS THE MURDERER HERE? The BBC finds Ukrainian forces executing Russian prisoners in real time. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63676446 End the war ... Seek PEACE!!!! That's a freeze frame of the russian firing his weapon. His colleagues are on the ground, appearing to surrender, then the last russian comes out and opens fire. Yes, they are all filmed dead afterwards, but pretending to surrender (perfidy) is a war crime. Also, did you not read to the end of that BBC article? They also talk about a gruesome murder done by the Russian side. You're regurgitating weeks old Kremlin lines, do your handlers have to use paper letters to send them to you to rehearse? 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #1908 December 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Slim King said: WHO IS THE MURDERER HERE? The BBC finds Ukrainian forces executing Russian prisoners in real time. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63676446 End the war ... Seek PEACE!!!! Russians that don't invade Ukraine are left alone. What's your point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #1909 December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, olofscience said: ....You're regurgitating weeks old Kremlin lines, do your handlers have to use paper letters to send them to you to rehearse? Latest estimates are about 500 of his countrymen are being killed or wounded every day. Supplies are so erratic that some resort to drinking water from puddles.Supply depots are now being kept as far from the front as Russia itself to avoid HIMARS attack. In the most active areas of fighting secondary lines of troops are maintained. To ensure troops from the first line fight and don't flee.Just like they used to do in WW ll. Its either the party line or the Ukrainian front. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #1910 December 1, 2022 17 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Wendy, Neville Chamberlain tried that; did not work so good. Jerry Baumchen Worked very well. UK was in no way ready to confront Hitler in 1938. RAF was still largely equipped with Gloster Gladiator biplanes due to years of neglect under Stanley Baldwin, while the Luftwaffe aready had Bf109s, He111s, etc. and experience in the Spanish Civil War. WW2 would have been over in a month had UK gone to war in 1938. The extra year allowed a big build up in the RAF's inventory of front line fighter planes, and completion of the Chain Home radar system. Even then the BoB was a close run thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #1911 December 1, 2022 4 hours ago, kallend said: Worked very well. UK was in no way ready to confront Hitler in 1938. RAF was still largely equipped with Gloster Gladiator biplanes due to years of neglect under Stanley Baldwin, while the Luftwaffe aready had Bf109s, He111s, etc. and experience in the Spanish Civil War. WW2 would have been over in a month had UK gone to war in 1938. The extra year allowed a big build up in the RAF's inventory of front line fighter planes, and completion of the Chain Home radar system. Even then the BoB was a close run thing. Hi John, Re: WW2 would have been over in a month IMO 'would haves' are pipe dreams. It did not end 'in a month.' I still say Neville Chamberlain tried that; did not work so good. We will have to disagree. I wish his efforts had succeeded. Not much of a chance considering who he was dealing with. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #1912 December 2, 2022 13 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi John, Re: WW2 would have been over in a month IMO 'would haves' are pipe dreams. It did not end 'in a month.' I still say Neville Chamberlain tried that; did not work so good. We will have to disagree. I wish his efforts had succeeded. Not much of a chance considering who he was dealing with. Jerry Baumchen Disagree all you want. Britain was not in a position to fight a war in 1938 after years of neglect of its military. The extra year brought completion of the radar chain, introduction of the Dowding system for directing the fighter defenses, and dozens of squadrons of Hurricanes and Spitfires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #1913 December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, kallend said: Britain was not in a position to fight a war in 1938 after years of neglect of its military. A lesson not learned by some of our NATO partners, sadly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #1914 December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: A lesson not learned by some of our NATO partners, sadly. And apparently not by Russia either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #1915 December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, gowlerk said: And apparently not by Russia either. They do have a nice collection of yachts. Surely Joe appreciates that! Some even have art collections with Faberge eggs. Everyone knows a yacht has much more curb appeal than a plain black submarine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #1916 December 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: They do have a nice collection of yachts. Surely Joe appreciates that! Some even have art collections with Faberge eggs. Everyone knows a yacht has much more curb appeal than a plain black submarine. Yeah, but if you don't pay your electric bills, the power gets shut off and the submarine reactors nearly have a meltdown (this really happened back in the 90s) Nothing like nearly having a catastrophic nuclear accident to show the world how powerful the Russian Navy is. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1995/09/22/Close-call-on-Russian-nuclear-subs/5380811742400/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #1917 December 3, 2022 15 hours ago, kallend said: ... Britain was not in a position to fight a war in 1938 after years of neglect of its military. ... Not much has changed. 12 hours ago, JoeWeber said: A lesson not learned by some of our NATO partners, sadly. Finnish PM Sanna Marin has said Europe is "not strong enough" to stand up to Russia's invasion of Ukraine on its own, and has had to rely on US support. During a visit to Australia, the leader of the pending Nato member said Europe's defences must be strengthened. "I must be brutally honest with you, Europe isn't strong enough right now," she said. "We would be in trouble without the United States."...She added that Europe must make sure it is "building those capabilities when it comes to European defence, European defence industry, and making sure that we could cope in different kinds of situations". Well somebody agrees with you Joe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #1918 December 3, 2022 12 hours ago, gowlerk said: And apparently not by Russia either. Lame and you know it. Canada is first on the list of NATO partners who are happy to send their version of hopes and prayers when the shit hits the fan. Yes, Canada will buy some of our stocks and also put a few bucks into a reconstruction plan but Canada is always being dragged along. Canada needs to kick into gear big time and no more BS about the US and yada yada. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #1919 December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Lame and you know it. Canada is first on the list of NATO partners who are happy to send their version of hopes and prayers when the shit hits the fan. Yes, Canada will buy some of our stocks and also put a few bucks into a reconstruction plan but Canada is always being dragged along. Canada needs to kick into gear big time and no more BS about the US and yada yada. I'll get right on that Joe. I love the new B-21 you guys are buying at 750 million a copy. I hear some of your war monging generals want 100 of them. Maybe we can slash a little something out of our healthcare budget and chip in for some spare tires for one of them. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #1920 December 3, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, gowlerk said: I'll get right on that Joe. I love the new B-21 you guys are buying at 750 million a copy. I hear some of your war monging generals want 100 of them. Maybe we can slash a little something out of our healthcare budget and chip in for some spare tires for one of them. More lame, and I guess you don't know it. Maybe we can find another M777 replacement artillery tube we can loan to Canada in exchange for a hamburger that you'll gladly pay us for Tuesday. Edited December 3, 2022 by JoeWeber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #1921 December 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: More lame, and I guess you don't know it. Maybe we can find another M777 replacement artillery tube Canada we can loan to Canada in exchange for a hamburger that you'll gladly pay us for Tuesday. With your per capita national debt being considerably higher than ours I'm not sure I want to make you wait for that hamburger. But since you can just use inflation to lower the real value of all that past spending like you did to pay for your Vietnam and Apollo adventures I guess you'll be okay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #1922 December 3, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Lame and you know it. Canada is first on the list of NATO partners who are happy to send their version of hopes and prayers when the shit hits the fan. Yes, Canada will buy some of our stocks and also put a few bucks into a reconstruction plan but Canada is always being dragged along. Canada needs to kick into gear big time and no more BS about the US and yada yada. Canadian defense companies have just never developed a lobby like in the US. Buying off politicians to approve the latest gold plated toilet is met with laughter. Instead of a cash in kind for donations to the party. We will keep supplying US seniors with non cartel prescription drugs though.It seems only right. FYI Canada has already paid out to Ukraine five times what France has paid out.The same applies to Italy's commitments and payments to Ukraine. Canada has already paid and delivered to Ukraine more aid than Germany. Its also paid out three times what the UK has paid out. Although given the cost to the UK for Brexit and its other foolishness. Its understandable, a bit. Edited December 3, 2022 by Phil1111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #1923 December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: Canadian defense companies have just never developed a lobby like in the US. Buying off politicians to approve the latest gold plated toilet is met with laughter. Instead of a cash in kind for donations to the party. We will keep supplying US seniors with non cartel prescription drugs though.It seems only right. How America spends money on defense is nothing short of obscene. Curious, however, is that the same people who lambaste Slim King for his desire to see Ukraine surrender don't recognize that if America spent on defense and R&D as their nations do the war in Ukraine would have been over long ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #1924 December 3, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: if America spent on defense and R&D as their nations do the war in Ukraine would have been over long ago. America has severely depleted its reserves of some weapons already in Ukraine. God has given America a lot of unique geographical and resource advantages over the rest of the world. It is both a blessing and a curse that the biggest of the several ways the US chooses to share that bounty is selling and occasionally the gifting of her armaments. Edited December 3, 2022 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #1925 December 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: How America spends money on defense is nothing short of obscene. Curious, however, is that the same people who lambaste Slim King for his desire to see Ukraine surrender don't recognize that if America spent on defense and R&D as their nations do the war in Ukraine would have been over long ago. I will concede that US funding and military assets in the region. In assistance of NATO operations have saved tens of thousands of Ukrainian lives. Likely been responsible for 70% of Ukrainian territory regained. Ukraine lost the war? Probably not. Canada and NATO has supported Ukraine for a while. "Since the start of Op UNIFIER(2015), the CAF(Canadian Armed Forces) has trained over 34,000 Ukrainian military and security personnel in battlefield tactics and advanced military skills" I think that France, Italy and Germany have been slackers in supporting Ukraine. Although Germany is starting to turn around. This war will leave Russia a military cripple. With only its nuclear weapons and a few ships left for whats been disclosed to be a paper tiger. Sorry SK thats a fact. US defense contractors do quite well having the whole western world dependent on US weapons. We’re #1: The U.S. Government is the World’s Largest Arms Dealer Kinda like a drug dealer giving out free samples. Edited December 3, 2022 by Phil1111 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites