Ukraine

[JoeWeber 1,567]

1 minute ago, Phil1111 said:

Russia is running out of tanks and artillery. They are resorting to more and more infantry attacks. Frequently w/o close artillery or even mortar support. With the largely untrained conscripts leading the way. Consequently Russian casualties are soaring and "refuseniks" becoming more common place.

Same as ever. They'll push the fodder forward to die and will hope to hold the lines until spring. In the words of Joseph Stalin "Quantity has a quality all it's own".

[murps2000 85]

7 minutes ago, Slim King said:

Russia and Ukraine can negotiate peace. It's up to Ukraine. Russia has offered to let NATO come in and have the people vote on what they want to do. I simply can't understand why all of you warmongers who believe in democracy wouldn't want that? But the elite would rather launder more billions while the US sleeps. I've seen this before in Viet Nam. Same game plan. Russia can beat Ukraine but Russia can't be beaten without a serious world war. If they don't negotiate peace it will be a disaster for everyone.  Now that my first Prediction has come true I'll make another......

Thousands of Ukrainians will die this winter needlessly unless they agree on a Peace deal. The American media will say the Ukrainians are "So Brave" while they freeze to death or die from bad water. No one will be listening to the people who are actually watching their children starve or freeze to death. The propagandists will tell you they wanted it this way. It's the same scam that the elites have used forever. The US has already given the Ukrainian elites more money than Russia spends on its entire military. Joe is going to give them even more of your tax dollars I've just read. It's the real world and people are really dying. Don't be a Warmonger.

Has Russia been forced to kill all of these Ukrainians you seem to care so much about?

[Phil1111 587]

9 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

...Don't forget, Russia is an impoverished and fully ignorant of world affairs third world country outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg. No hell NATO can visit there will bother Putin one iota.

Some Russians have VPNs but in rural areas thats true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlUsTpaGhZ8&ab_channel=RadioFreeEurope%2FRadioLiberty

Edited November 24, 2022 by Phil1111

[olofscience 265]

10 hours ago, Slim King said:

No one will be listening to the people who are actually watching their children starve or freeze to death.

Go on then, show the footage of Ukrainians asking for negotiations.

 

Oh and by the way, Ukraine retook Kherson just 2 days after your 30 day prediction.

[olofscience 265]

10 hours ago, Slim King said:

I abhor WAR ... I've spoken against it this entire time. I'm a realist .... I warned that Russia would no longer play nice. And just as I predicted they bomber the hell out of  Ukraine. They need to negotiate PEACE like I've said all along. Now, a month later, thousands more innocent people are dead, and many more will die needlessly this winter while the elite launder more and more billions with the FTX and other scams. Needless death and destruction. 

So I guess if someone tries to rape your wife, you'll just tell her to stop resisting to avoid needless injuries or death.

[ryoder 930]

11 hours ago, billvon said:

Thank God we didn't have you around during World War II.

"We need to negotiate PEACE!  I am sure Germany will stop killing the Jews if we just give them everything they want.  Like, say, the US."

So true! If only we had listened to Neville Chamberlain, the whole war could have been avoided!

[Phil1111 587]

5 hours ago, olofscience said:

So I guess if someone tries to rape your wife, you'll just tell her to stop resisting to avoid needless injuries or death.

Or kidnap your children. To date over 11,000 Ukrainian children have been kidnapped by Putin and his apologists. They even admit it on state RTV.

"Russia doesn’t hide the transfer of Ukrainian children but trumpets it on its television propaganda programs, portraying itself as the savior of abandoned children and showing Russians handing teddy bears to Ukrainian boys and girls.

Russia’s commissioner for children’s rights, Maria Lvova-Belova, boasted last month that she had adopted a Ukrainian boy, and many of these stolen children seem to have been adopted into Russian families."

White blue eyed children are necessary in Putin's Russia to make up for the mixed race children in the republics. Put Putin if fixing that by drafting them as cannon fodder for his new offensive.

"On Sept. 21, 2022, amid mounting Russian casualties in Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin declared a “partial mobilization” of the country’s military reservists. Within days, a picture began to emerge of a conscription campaign that had been disproportionately targeting Russia’s ethnic minorities, including the Kalmyks, Buryats, and Tatars. By the time the mobilization concluded at the end of October, military call-ups had reportedly depopulated some non-Slavic villages by as much as 20%."

[riggerrob 435]

16 hours ago, ryoder said:

NATO should be giving them everything they need, with no strings attached.

NATO attaches strings because the last thing they want is to fuel Russian propaganda about NATO wanting to expand all the way to the Ural mountains.

France learned that invading Russia was impossible back during the days of Napoleon (circa 1800).

During the First World War, Germany learned that they could at best fight Russia to a stand-still.

Furing the Second World War Germany learned that it was impossible to HOLD Russian territory, no matter how easy it might have been to conquer. Long supply lines and "General Mud" made it impossible to re-supply German soldiers too many thousand kilometers/miles from German farms and factories.

Bottom line is that NATO knows that invading Russia is a fool's game.

[riggerrob 435]

Dear Slim King,

Most of us agree with you that a negotiated cease fire would be the best possible outcome.

The problem is that Russians have a bad habit of not keeping their promises.

[olofscience 265]

14 minutes ago, riggerrob said:

Most of us agree with you that a negotiated cease fire and the full withdrawal of Russia from Ukraine would be the best possible outcome.

fixed

[Phil1111 587]

31 minutes ago, riggerrob said:

Dear Slim King,

Most of us agree with you that a negotiated cease fire, compensation for property damage, death, injury, personal psychological injuries,  full co-operation for war crimes trials, guarantees of Ukrainian independence-security and the full withdrawal of Russia from Ukraine  would be the best possible outcome.

 

16 minutes ago, olofscience said:

fixed

Really fixed.

Edited November 24, 2022 by Phil1111

[wolfriverjoe 932]

On 10/23/2022 at 7:32 PM, wolfriverjoe said:

Well, I'm sure the Ukrainians would accept peace terms that were fair. 

Something like:

Immediate departure of all Russians from all Ukrainian territory (including Crimea).

Immediate return of all kidnapped Ukrainians from Russia.

Russia to surrender all leaders (both military and civilian) credibly accused of war crimes to the Hague.

Russia to pay for all damages to Ukrainian property. Lifting the trade embargo and allowing Russia to sell oil and gas would go a long way towards paying these reparations.

I doubt this will happen, but it would be nice.

Fixed some more (includes return of all kidnapped Ukranians).
But I had posted this about a month ago.


It's rather interesting to see how weak and pathetic Putin and the Russian Army really is.
Putin's lobbing missiles at civilian infrastructure. There's very little military value in what he's doing. It's a very real possibility this could be a prosecutable war crime.

Personally, I'd like to see Ukraine get reasonably long range weapons. And use them against Russia.
One could argue that oil refineries provide military material and are legit targets. 
They're also pretty easy targets for missiles & such. You don't have to target precisely. Any good hit on the complex is going to cause flammables to leak and any fire is going to take off. 

It wouldn't be a good idea, I know that.
It likely isn't going to happen.

But for Putin to be on the receiving end of the exact same thing he's been doing would be rather fitting.

[Phil1111 587]

1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

...Personally, I'd like to see Ukraine get reasonably long range weapons. And use them against Russia....

Coming soon to an Ex-Russian republic, newly independent country. A new army:

"Ukraine plans to build up a powerful military and defence industry including an "army of drones", and this week's state takeovers of privately-held stakes in strategic companies are part of that drive, Ukraine's defence minister said. "We are trying to be like Israel - more independent during the next years,"

Gee. that means Slim and his dreams of peace...er subjugated countries. May not come true.

[kallend 1,190]

20 hours ago, riggerrob said:

NATO attaches strings because the last thing they want is to fuel Russian propaganda about NATO wanting to expand all the way to the Ural mountains.

France learned that invading Russia was impossible back during the days of Napoleon (circa 1800).

During the First World War, Germany learned that they could at best fight Russia to a stand-still.

Furing the Second World War Germany learned that it was impossible to HOLD Russian territory, no matter how easy it might have been to conquer. Long supply lines and "General Mud" made it impossible to re-supply German soldiers too many thousand kilometers/miles from German farms and factories.

Bottom line is that NATO knows that invading Russia is a fool's game.

Germans, Swedes and Estonians learned the exact same thing in the 13th Century.

But those who do not learn from history. . . . . . etc.

[Slim King 29]

I am happy that there are over two dozen less Bio-Labs in Ukraine. We certainly don't nee another Plandemic.

[riggerrob 435]

49 minutes ago, Slim King said:

I am happy that there are over two dozen less Bio-Labs in Ukraine. We certainly don't nee another Plandemic.

Dear Slim King,

You are the first o mention bio labs in Ukraine. 

Do you know something that the mainstream media do not?????????

[wmw999 1,558]

1 hour ago, riggerrob said:

Dear Slim King,

You are the first o mention bio labs in Ukraine. 

Do you know something that the mainstream media do not?????????

Oh holy crap — you really want to fire him up?

Wendy P. 

[Slim King 29]

On 11/25/2022 at 1:36 PM, riggerrob said:

Dear Slim King,

You are the first o mention bio labs in Ukraine. 

Do you know something that the mainstream media do not?????????

Here is a video of the US representatives admitting we have Bio-Labs in Ukraine and how dangerous it would be if Russia got their hands on our   biological escapades!!!!!! Russia was the first to mention them when the said they would get rid of the Bio-Labs and kill the NAZI brigade AZOV,,,

 

[wolfriverjoe 932]

Classic. 

Pay no attention to what is actually said, make up a bunch of lies, spread them around among fools, idiots, dupes and others, watch the lie grow.

 

Quote

"What she said did not validate what they are claiming," said Holt. "But for the audiences that are really stuck inside these bubbles of hyperpartisan media, conspiratorial media, scrutiny is not really a strong suit."

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/25/1087910880/biological-weapons-far-right-russia-ukraine

Abso-fucking-lutely hilarious how Fox "news" promotes the Russian propaganda.

[Slim King 29]

Ukraine is losing the war. Their nation is in the darkness. The water is bad and thousands will die in the next few weeks. Meanwhile the Russians are tucked away warmly in their beds. Russia just activated another 300,000 troops. But the media is telling you it's all just fine and the people want to suffer rather than seek peace. I saw this exact thing in the Viet Nam war. They are laundering money through that country. Over 20% of the money we sent them is unaccounted for and billions that were accounted for were lost in the Crypto Scam. Same game they played on us in the 60's and 70's. Don't let them starve and freeze... negotiate PEACE for Christmas.

[billvon 1,667]

1 hour ago, Slim King said:

Ukraine is losing the war.

Yes, we all know what Pravda is saying these days.

[lippy 350]

1 hour ago, Slim King said:

Ukraine is losing the war. Their nation is in the darkness. The water is bad and thousands will die in the next few weeks. Meanwhile the Russians are tucked away warmly in their beds. Russia just activated another 300,000 troops. But the media is telling you it's all just fine and the people want to suffer rather than seek peace. I saw this exact thing in the Viet Nam war. They are laundering money through that country. Over 20% of the money we sent them is unaccounted for and billions that were accounted for were lost in the Crypto Scam. Same game they played on us in the 60's and 70's. Don't let them starve and freeze... negotiate PEACE for Christmas.

Your rants about this remind me of Ron confidently talking about the Q drops of old. 

[Slim King 29]

6 minutes ago, billvon said:

Yes, we all know what Pravda is saying these days.

[email protected]@k it up!!!! Ukraine is in the dark with no power. Just like I said last month .. No more Mr. Nice Guy!!!! Russia just brought in a quarter of a million new troops ... Ukraine has NO reinforcements. Negotiate for Peace.

Edited November 29, 2022 by Slim King

[Stumpy 162]

9 minutes ago, lippy said:

Your rants about this remind me of Ron confidently talking about the Q drops of old. 

 Nah - Ron may be misguided but at least he has an IQ into 3 figures. This troll, I'm not so sure.

[murps2000 85]

1 hour ago, Slim King said:

[email protected]@k it up!!!! Ukraine is in the dark with no power. Just like I said last month .. No more Mr. Nice Guy!!!! Russia just brought in a quarter of a million new troops ... Ukraine has NO reinforcements. Negotiate for Peace.

I’ll ask you again, has Russia been forced to attack Ukrainian civilians and infrastructure?