Climatism, the new religion

[SkyDekker 1,141]

57 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

The availability of a tool (any too) gives one options.  I can still ride a bike, and take public transport but with a car I have the option not to.  I like having options.

That's not the issue. The issue is the options changing the behaviour and the consequences of that behaviour. Road rage is an example of that. Guns are another example. Implying a tool has no impact on people's behaviour is not correct.

 

[brenthutch 388]

1 minute ago, SkyDekker said:

That's not the issue. The issue is the options changing the behaviour and the consequences of that behaviour. Road rage is an example of that. Guns are another example. Implying a tool has no impact on people's behaviour is not correct.

 

I agree.  I faced a road rage incident back in the 90's the guy got out of his car with a head of steam, I produced my pistol and his behavior was quickly impacted.  

[SkyDekker 1,141]

1 minute ago, brenthutch said:

I agree.  I faced a road rage incident back in the 90's the guy got out of his car with a head of steam, I produced my pistol and his behavior was quickly impacted.  

I believe brandishing is a crime.

[brenthutch 388]

1 minute ago, SkyDekker said:

I believe brandishing is a crime.

Not in self defense 

[DJL 232]

20 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I agree.  I faced a road rage incident back in the 90's the guy got out of his car with a head of steam, I produced my pistol and his behavior was quickly impacted.  

Did you offer to give him some chill pills?

[DJL 232]

17 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

I believe brandishing is a crime.

If you instigate an altercation then yes.  If you're equally at fault for escalating a situation it gets gray.  If you kill the guy with any shred of evidence that it was self defense you're good to go as long as there's no proof of any of the instigation or escalation your part.  And yes, the rest of the world says a collective "WTF" because in parts of the US you can kill people if you're afraid of getting punched.

[gowlerk 1,923]

8 minutes ago, DJL said:

If you instigate an altercation then yes.  If you're equally at fault for escalating a situation it gets gray.  If you kill the guy with any shred of evidence that it was self defense you're good to go as long as there's no proof of any of the instigation or escalation your part.  And yes, the rest of the world says a collective "WTF" because in parts of the US you can kill people if you're afraid of getting punched.

As long as you are not dark skinned that is.

[turtlespeed 212]

4 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

That was 2011.

If we count mass shootings with at least 10 dead from 2011 to now, Norway has 69 dead. Which is an internationally known and shocking incident. US has close to 300 dead in 13 incidents. Without looking it up, you probably cannot name more than maybe 3 of those incidents.

Thank you for once again proving my point. Either Americans are mentally defective and cannot help murdering each other, or the easy availability of the tool has an impact. Sounds like those French you like to make fun of got it right.

It is improper training, and illegality.

[wmw999 2,147]

1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

It is improper training, and illegality.

It's also easy availability of weapons, it really is. 

When wood is hard to come by, people build with stone. When they don't have hammers, they are more likely to build with stone. Lazy thinkers use the tools at hand, and most people are lazy thinkers at some time or another.

Wendy P.

[turtlespeed 212]

 

2 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

It's also easy availability of weapons, it really is. 

When wood is hard to come by, people build with stone. When they don't have hammers, they are more likely to build with stone. Lazy thinkers use the tools at hand, and most people are lazy thinkers at some time or another.

Wendy P.

I was going to read this this whole post - but I already  . . .

 

 

Edited January 22, 2020 by turtlespeed
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[billvon 2,427]

5 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

That was 2011.

If we count mass shootings with at least 10 dead from 2011 to now, Norway has 69 dead. Which is an internationally known and shocking incident. US has close to 300 dead in 13 incidents. Without looking it up, you probably cannot name more than maybe 3 of those incidents.

One thing that I thought was remarkable was how much a recent right wing gun-rights rally was bragging that there were no shootings during the rally.

America - where "not one shooting at our rally!" is a newsworthy event to be proud of.

[gowlerk 1,923]

4 minutes ago, billvon said:

One thing that I thought was remarkable was how much a recent right wing gun-rights rally was bragging that there were no shootings during the rally.

America - where "not one shooting at our rally!" is a newsworthy event to be proud of.

And no cars driven into crowds. Heather Heyer would have enjoyed it.

[JerryBaumchen 1,063]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

Lazy thinkers use the tools at hand, and most people are lazy thinkers at some time or a

Hi Wendy,

There is an old saying:  'Necessity is the mother of invention.'

I've always thought that laziness is the mother of invention.

Jerry Baumchen

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[brenthutch 388]

6 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I didn’t know that African Americans and LGTB groups were part of the white supremacy movement

 

Edited January 22, 2020 by brenthutch

[brenthutch 388]

Thread drift, let's get back on topic

https://listverse.com/2019/09/26/climate-change-religion/

"10 Creepy Reasons Climate Change is Starting to Look Like a Religion"

 

Edited January 23, 2020 by brenthutch

[JoeWeber 2,325]

3 hours ago, brenthutch said:

I agree.  I faced a road rage incident back in the 90's the guy got out of his car with a head of steam, I produced my pistol and his behavior was quickly impacted.  

Wow. Your descaltion skills are amazing. Did you learn those in the military?

 

[brenthutch 388]

28 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Wow. Your descaltion skills are amazing. Did you learn those in the military?

 

I don't know what descaltion is...so no.

BTW did you check out "the 10 creepy reasons...."

Edited January 23, 2020 by brenthutch

[JoeWeber 2,325]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

I don't know what descaltion is...so no.

BTW did you check out "the 10 creepy reasons...."

De-escalation. But I'm a bit of a doof, as you know.

[brenthutch 388]

https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/noaas-flood-and-the-new-religion-of-climate-change
 

NOAA’s great flood 

[DJL 232]

13 hours ago, brenthutch said:

The only people who were trying to make this thing about race were the fringe nuts.

[brenthutch 388]

Fringe nuts like NBC, CNN and MSNBC

[DJL 232]

17 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Fringe nuts like NBC, CNN and MSNBC

Are you referring to them covering the story that white supremacists were trying to go to the rally and start shit?  Then you need to include the FBI as fringe nuts who covered it and solved the problem.

Edit: and to demostrate that here's a search for "cnn white supremacy at richmond rally"  The results are stories about the lead up story about the white supremacists who got caught, a story about why it WASN'T like Charlotesville, and of course a story from Fox about how liberal news stations wanted it to become a blood bath.

https://www.google.com/search?q=cnn+white+supremacy+at+richmond+rally&oq=cnn+white+supremacy+at+richmond+rally&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.8981j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

There was ONE guy, Ben Collins, who referred to it as a white nationalist rally and he was summarily silenced and deleted the statement with an apology. 

To echo someone's previous statements why would they brag that it did not end up being a white supremacy rally with mass shootings?  That's a pretty low bar but congrats on picking up the trash afterwards.  I live a few miles away and genuinely appreciated that.

Edited January 23, 2020 by DJL

[brenthutch 388]

 

https://youtu.be/3Deoi7ZuWT8

[DJL 232]

29 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

 

https://youtu.be/3Deoi7ZuWT8

And fuck that guy too.  Still not a representation of "The Media" if it's two guys.  CNN and NBC/MSNBC are crap news sources and of those it still looks like NBC is the only one guilty of this.