jakee 1,257 #101 May 30, 2019 6 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Un-guild your eyes and see where the politics did him in.... It is my belief that he used the media and the events of the investigation to get him in to Book ville - Whats his net worth gone up to since all this transpired? So is it politics or is it business? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #102 May 30, 2019 6 hours ago, jakee said: So the public announcements of Clinton investigations during an election were anti-Republican, were they? His almost lifelong Republican party affiliation was nothing but a long-con, because he somehow knew he'd one day be in a position to undermine a Republican president? Come on, look past your own bias and see how crazy you sound. Look ast your own bias and think that if you're incapable of identifying any specific things that Comey has actually done to support your argument then you might just be talking crap. I think he did what he did out of self interest. I also think it was as wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,129 #103 May 30, 2019 16 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I don't - I am simply pointing out that someone that prominent in the news may have created the scenario on purpose. No, you are stating that you believe he has done that. Which also means you believe he would have absolutely no integrity. I was looking at the positive side and thought maybe you meant you were upset that he had integrity in his work, but now is going to use his former position to make money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #104 May 30, 2019 4 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I think he did what he did out of self interest. Did what, though? Or are you just going to cop out again and say 'everything'? Quote I also think it was as wrong. As what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #105 May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: No, you are stating that you believe he has done that. Which also means you believe he would have absolutely no integrity. I was looking at the positive side and thought maybe you meant you were upset that he had integrity in his work, but now is going to use his former position to make money. You are wrong about the first part. I believe he MAY have done that - I haven't made up my mind yet. I am going to wait for more of this to unfold. The second part is mostly right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #106 May 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, jakee said: Did what, though? Or are you just going to cop out again and say 'everything'? As what? As announcing that there would be an investigation right before election time. 1) Playing politics and stirring up the media as election time was coming in season. 2) Playing that card and profiting from it. 3) Not being genuine. 4) Telling half truths to further his agenda. His office is not supposed to be a political one and yet he made it into one. I'd be surprised if he didn't run for an office after this shit storm calms down. Edited May 30, 2019 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,129 #107 May 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: You are wrong about the first part. I believe he MAY have done that - I haven't made up my mind yet. I am going to wait for more of this to unfold. The second part is mostly right. If you only think he may have done that and you haven't made up your mind, than why did you state this? It is my belief that he used the media and the events of the investigation to get him in to Book ville - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 277 #108 May 30, 2019 (edited) On 5/27/2019 at 7:25 PM, billvon said: Dave Hayes, a self-declared prophet, Christian author, and online activist who is better known as the “Praying Medic,” . . ."This is a battle to the death,” he continued. “There can be no clemency, there can be no deals, and there can be not much mercy.” Yep. Nothing proves your Christian credentials like saying there will be no clemency and almost no mercy. Who can forget Christ's Merciless Executions on the Mount? Yep -- we're seeing an extreme group that wants to implement Sharia Law here in the U.S. (ETA: Sorry, I know this post is from a couple of pages back. I'm just getting caught up on my reading!) Edited May 30, 2019 by TriGirl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #109 May 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: As announcing that there would be an investigation right before election time. 1) Playing politics and stirring up the media as election time was coming in season. Right, so that's the only thing you can name that proves he's never been a genuine Republican? Publically investigating the Democrat candidate during a Presidential election? Are you for real? Edited May 30, 2019 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #110 May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, turtlespeed said: You are wrong about the first part. I believe he MAY have done that - I haven't made up my mind yet. I am going to wait for more of this to unfold. The second part is mostly right. Hang on a minute - you said that everything Comey has ever done shows he's not a Republican, then you said he's not a Republican because he's a sell out, now you're saying you don't actually know if he's a sell out? You said I only disagreed with your version because I was biased and had gilded eyes, now it turns out that you haven't even decided if you believe your version yet? What's your endgame here? Are you really posting just to generate an argument? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yobnoc 142 #111 May 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, jakee said: What's your endgame here? Are you really posting just to generate an argument? You're starting to understand Turtle like the rest of us already do. Welcome! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,915 #112 May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, jakee said: What's your endgame here? Are you really posting just to generate an argument? Comey at one point called himself a Republican. What does that mean? Is he a party member? Does he lean that way? Who gets to decide? There are only two options for major parties to choose from in America. Comey is more conservative than liberal and he makes a living as a Washington lawyer. He had to pick a side like everyone else there does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #113 May 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Comey at one point called himself a Republican. What does that mean? Is he a party member? In his own words, he was a registered Republican for most of his adult life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #114 May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, jakee said: In his own words, he was a registered Republican for most of his adult life. Was . . . an operative word. What I wrote to John was that he IS . . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,915 #115 May 31, 2019 3 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Was . . . an operative word. What I wrote to John was that he IS . . . . Apparently he now calls himself an independent. Like I said, America really only has two teams. No one can be completely ideologically pure in such a system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #116 May 31, 2019 5 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Was . . . an operative word. What I wrote to John was that he IS . . . . And what you wrote to me was that he WAS.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,406 #117 June 1, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 6:10 AM, turtlespeed said: I think he did what he did out of self interest. So he attacked a democrat, and harmed her chances of election, out of self interest? Sounds like he's a republican by definition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #118 June 3, 2019 (edited) On 6/1/2019 at 1:11 PM, billvon said: So he attacked a democrat, and harmed her chances of election, out of self interest? Sounds like he's a republican by definition. Not really - It sounds like someone out for their own self interest. But you have to be willing to look at the whole story objectively. Considering the comment this is a reply to - I doubt that is possible. Edited June 3, 2019 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,406 #119 June 3, 2019 3 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Not really - It sounds like someone out for their own self interest. Again, sounds like a classic Republican. One of the frequent objections that Republicans make about the Democratic platform is that it's "socialist" and that aid "makes people dependent." They prefer to look out for their own self interest, rather than concern themselves with the issues of the have-nots. (and minorities, and the LGBT people, etc.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,635 #120 June 4, 2019 Going back to the OP, 2 weeks from May 2 was May 16. Seems like yet another of Ron's predictions fell flat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,346 #121 June 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, kallend said: Going back to the OP, 2 weeks from May 2 was May 16. Seems like yet another of Ron's predictions fell flat. Well, to be fair, it really wasn't Ron's prediction. He was just passing on a prediction from "Q-something". Of course, he was gullible enough to believe it and pass it on as 'gospel truth.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #122 June 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Well, to be fair, it really wasn't Ron's prediction. He was just passing on a prediction from "Q-something". Of course, he was gullible enough to believe it and pass it on as 'gospel truth.' Just like the rest of the gospel "truth" nonsense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,346 #123 June 4, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, normiss said: Just like the rest of the gospel "truth" nonsense. My choice of words was not accidental. Glad someone caught it. Edited June 4, 2019 by wolfriverjoe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #124 June 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, normiss said: 36 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Well, to be fair, it really wasn't Ron's prediction. He was just passing on a prediction from "Q-something". Of course, he was gullible enough to believe it and pass it on as 'gospel truth.' Just like the rest of the gospel "truth" nonsense. "just because you believe in evidence-based, scientific research – which is subject to strict checks and procedures – doesn't mean that your mind works in the same way." "The problem that any rational thinker needs to tackle, though, is that the science increasingly shows that atheists are no more rational than theists. Indeed, atheists are just as susceptible as the next person to "group-think" and other non-rational forms of cognition. For example, religious and nonreligious people alike can end up following charismatic individuals without questioning them." " Clearly, the idea that being atheist is down to rationality alone is starting to look distinctly irrational. But the good news for all concerned is that rationality is overrated. Human ingenuity rests on a lot more than rational thinking. . . The truth is that humans are not like science – none of us get by without irrational action, nor without sources of existential meaning and comfort. Fortunately, though, nobody has to." https://phys.org/news/2018-09-atheists-rational.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #125 June 4, 2019 On 6/3/2019 at 11:58 AM, billvon said: Again, sounds like a classic Republican. It sounds like a Clinton to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
